I need the ULTIMATE LOOP

ColourSurround · 24th September 2007, 02:41 AM

Greetings lads, haven't been on here in a while, forgot how brilliant this site is. And now I yet again need some solid advice:

What would recommend as the ultimate live rig loop pedal? I'm sketched out about the standard Boss Loop Stations and DigiTech Jam Man's. I want something that delivers pin-point precision as well as near perfect tone replication. Money, at this stage of things, is no object, though keeping it under a grand would be beautiful.

Let me know any suggestions, I'll be looking forward to them as always.

PiN

dropblacksky · 24th September 2007, 02:57 AM

Echoplex digital pro. Best option available for live looping. Downfall is that it's mono...it's also about a grand. I sync to midi clock with it and my guitar loops sync flawlessly to sequences live. Really deep device if you get into it. It's only 41k sample rate (16 bit) which is weird, but I've never felt tone was an issue...the difference (if there is an audible one) is certainly undetectable in a live context.

Haven't tried out the new Boss one...I'm sure it works well as Boss gear usually is solid, if not special. Cool that it's stereo, but I guarantee it isn't as deep as the 'plex...but also half as expensive.

Gear Tramp · 24th September 2007, 02:59 AM

I've never had any qualms with the AKAI Headrush...

joeq · 24th September 2007, 05:01 AM

a good friend of mine does a very complex loop-based performance show using the Electrix Repeater.

like all great tools, it has naturally been discontinued but you can still find them.

travisbrown · 24th September 2007, 05:59 AM

MOTU Ultralight or some other half decent i/o and Ableton Live with a foot controller.

I use a combination of a Digitech/Lexicon JamMan and Line6 DL4 usually.

When I want to trigger other samples in addition to capturing phrases, or capture phrases to multiple channels, I've used Live, though I'm not co-ordinated enough to do anything really fancy. I leave that stuff to players like Keaggy.

Dr.Wu · 24th September 2007, 07:17 AM

Boss RC-50 is pretty capable.
USB connectivity to dump your loops to your computer for backup and up to three totally independent phrases simultaneously.

Djembe · 24th September 2007, 08:09 AM

Akai headrush works well for me.

Whatever you get, make sure that it does infinite looping.
Some models will start to fade out the initial loops as you add more. This can be a problem as usually the first loops have the main groove. They don't always tell you this in the manual. You have to try it yourself.

This is a really good resource for loopers:-

LOOPER'S DELIGHT!

Scroll down to "tools of the trade"

Good luck
Blair

Bob Ross · 24th September 2007, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dropblacksky

Echoplex digital pro. Best option available for live looping. Downfall is that it's mono...

Yeah, but a pair of them sync up for stereo reallllly niiiiice!!!! (btw, I'm selling one; if anybody's interested, PM me.)

I also suggest the OP check out the Looperlative LP-1. Looperlative Audio Products

dropblacksky · 24th September 2007, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Ross

Yeah, but a pair of them sync up for stereo reallllly niiiiice!!!! (btw, I'm selling one; if anybody's interested, PM me.)

I also suggest the OP check out the Looperlative LP-1. Looperlative Audio Products

Oooh....that looks nice. Expensive though. Bring the price down and it could be an "Echoplex killer"! Even for a EP fan like myself.

ColourSurround · 24th September 2007, 10:20 PM

Great suggestions guys, thanks for all of those. I'm looking into each suggestion right now. The echoplex definitely looks to be tops on the list right now for me though but I'll let you know how all that comes along.

PiN

zerocrossing · 25th January 2008, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColourSurround

Great suggestions guys, thanks for all of those. I'm looking into each suggestion right now. The echoplex definitely looks to be tops on the list right now for me though but I'll let you know how all that comes along.

PiN

I owned a Repeater for years... ah those were the days. Had an Echoplex too but in the end I found that the Live/Mobius combo controlled by an FCB1010 to really be the best and most flexible. Mobius is like having 8 STEREO Echoplexes and it's free. I'm sure it doesn't do everything exactly like an Echoplex, but for the way I work it's perfect.

obscure object · 25th January 2008, 04:11 AM

electro-harmonix Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai | Sweetwater.com

electro-harmonix 2880 Super Multi-Track Looper | Sweetwater.com

No experience with those but they look sexy

ColourSurround · 25th January 2008, 07:10 AM

I'll give the Repeater a shot, though I must say I've been diggin the echoplex. It's damned complex though with all that you can do, and since I don't actually own it (been borrowing from a mate who has one handy in a studio) it's been a trip and a half to really get the hang of it all. Fun as hell though.

PiN

3rd world order · 25th January 2008, 07:46 AM

i dig http://zvex.com/junky.html

but here's the ultimate loop...

rcm · 25th January 2008, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColourSurround

I'll give the Repeater a shot, though I must say I've been diggin the echoplex. It's damned complex though with all that you can do, and since I don't actually own it (been borrowing from a mate who has one handy in a studio) it's been a trip and a half to really get the hang of it all. Fun as hell though.

If you want to hear what's possible with an digital echoplex, check out Andre LaFosse. He is sort of like the Michael Jordan of the Echoplex.

Ruudman · 25th January 2008, 09:19 AM

I really like Echoplex, and the LoopIV software is nice.

BTW, this is planning to be released this month:

Ruudman

drewharris · 25th January 2008, 09:28 AM

+1 for the electrix repeater from what i've seen of it. it's what imogen heap uses live. if i'm not mistaken its what she's using in this video if you care to see it in action.
YouTube - Imogen Heap - Just For Now (live at Studio 11 103.1FM)

-drew

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24th September 2007, 02:41 AM	#1
ColourSurround Gear nut Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 104	I need the ULTIMATE LOOP Greetings lads, haven't been on here in a while, forgot how brilliant this site is. And now I yet again need some solid advice: What would recommend as the ultimate live rig loop pedal? I'm sketched out about the standard Boss Loop Stations and DigiTech Jam Man's. I want something that delivers pin-point precision as well as near perfect tone replication. Money, at this stage of things, is no object, though keeping it under a grand would be beautiful. Let me know any suggestions, I'll be looking forward to them as always. PiN

24th September 2007, 05:01 AM	#4
joeq Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New York Posts: 3,905	a good friend of mine does a very complex loop-based performance show using the Electrix Repeater. like all great tools, it has naturally been discontinued but you can still find them. __________________ . “What you ask about is music. What you like is sound. Now music and sound are akin, but they are not the same.” — Confucius

24th September 2007, 05:59 AM	#5
travisbrown Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,732	MOTU Ultralight or some other half decent i/o and Ableton Live with a foot controller. I use a combination of a Digitech/Lexicon JamMan and Line6 DL4 usually. When I want to trigger other samples in addition to capturing phrases, or capture phrases to multiple channels, I've used Live, though I'm not co-ordinated enough to do anything really fancy. I leave that stuff to players like Keaggy. __________________ I'm not a producer, but I play one on Gearslutz.com

25th January 2008, 07:46 AM	#14
3rd world order Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: ann arbor, michigan Posts: 1,948	i dig http://zvex.com/junky.html but here's the ultimate loop... __________________ 3WO - Mixing Without Tears "Tape is a mangler.." -- Slipperman // "The idea of the perfect album is this amorphous thing we're always aiming at. For us, it can mean something full of imperfection. Part of our aim has always been to destroy the sound in a beautiful way. It doesn't mean we expect everyone would like it. I'm not sure we will ever get there... but the whole point of making music is at least to aim at your own idea of perfection." -- Boards of Canada

24th September 2007, 02:57 AM	#2
dropblacksky Gear addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 410	Echoplex digital pro. Best option available for live looping. Downfall is that it's mono...it's also about a grand. I sync to midi clock with it and my guitar loops sync flawlessly to sequences live. Really deep device if you get into it. It's only 41k sample rate (16 bit) which is weird, but I've never felt tone was an issue...the difference (if there is an audible one) is certainly undetectable in a live context. Haven't tried out the new Boss one...I'm sure it works well as Boss gear usually is solid, if not special. Cool that it's stereo, but I guarantee it isn't as deep as the 'plex...but also half as expensive.

24th September 2007, 02:59 AM	#3
Gear Tramp Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 661	I've never had any qualms with the AKAI Headrush...

24th September 2007, 07:17 AM	#6
Dr.Wu Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 594	Boss RC-50 is pretty capable. USB connectivity to dump your loops to your computer for backup and up to three totally independent phrases simultaneously.

24th September 2007, 08:09 AM	#7
Djembe Gear nut Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 97	Akai headrush works well for me. Whatever you get, make sure that it does infinite looping. Some models will start to fade out the initial loops as you add more. This can be a problem as usually the first loops have the main groove. They don't always tell you this in the manual. You have to try it yourself. This is a really good resource for loopers:- LOOPER'S DELIGHT! Scroll down to "tools of the trade" Good luck Blair

24th September 2007, 10:20 PM	#10
ColourSurround Gear nut Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 104	Great suggestions guys, thanks for all of those. I'm looking into each suggestion right now. The echoplex definitely looks to be tops on the list right now for me though but I'll let you know how all that comes along. PiN

25th January 2008, 04:11 AM	#12
obscure object Gear maniac Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 151	electro-harmonix Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai \| Sweetwater.com electro-harmonix 2880 Super Multi-Track Looper \| Sweetwater.com No experience with those but they look sexy

25th January 2008, 07:10 AM	#13
ColourSurround Gear nut Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 104	I'll give the Repeater a shot, though I must say I've been diggin the echoplex. It's damned complex though with all that you can do, and since I don't actually own it (been borrowing from a mate who has one handy in a studio) it's been a trip and a half to really get the hang of it all. Fun as hell though. PiN

25th January 2008, 09:19 AM	#16
Ruudman Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 2,848	I really like Echoplex, and the LoopIV software is nice. BTW, this is planning to be released this month: Ruudman __________________ Working Class Hero Visit this website of Noma Children Hospital Sokoto

25th January 2008, 09:28 AM	#17
drewharris Gear nut Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 86	+1 for the electrix repeater from what i've seen of it. it's what imogen heap uses live. if i'm not mistaken its what she's using in this video if you care to see it in action. YouTube - Imogen Heap - Just For Now (live at Studio 11 103.1FM) -drew

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