Ever right a ballad/love song?

filthyrich · 23rd September 2007, 10:16 PM

Tried once. It sucked. Happiness breeds soul..less..ness (is that a word?)..at least for me.

Fast love songs don't count. I'm talking. OOOh "Amanda" type stuff. Or more recently, "Hey there delila" type stuff. By the way, the Delila song is a stalker song...he never dated her.

Ah well. Back to drywall work on the house.

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After reading..I notice...that I asked:
Ever right a love song? what the hell?
(Yikes. I need to self medicate less whilst drywalling)
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Lownotes · 23rd September 2007, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by filthyrich

Tried once. It sucked. Happiness breeds soul..less..ness (is that a word?)..at least for me.

Fast love songs don't count. I'm talking. OOOh "Amanda" type stuff. Or more recently, "Hey there delila" type stuff. By the way, the Delila song is a stalker song...he never dated her.

Ah well. Back to drywall work on the house.

No, but I've wronged a few.

Chrizcol · 23rd September 2007, 10:53 PM

Always fun to ridicule dyslexics.... tsk tsk

Its "Ever write a ballad/love song?"

henryrobinett · 23rd September 2007, 11:06 PM

I'm sorry. It must be said again. I've wronged many a ballad. I've written a bunch too. Some of those I've written I think I've inadvertently wronged as well.

Chrizcol · 23rd September 2007, 11:42 PM

Come on guys.....................

...................................... two wrongs don't make a write

fastlane · 23rd September 2007, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrizcol

Come on guys.....................

...................................... two wrongs don't make a write

You'd be right at home writing a love song with those cheezy one liners!!

diatonic · 24th September 2007, 12:01 AM

octatonic · 24th September 2007, 12:21 AM

Nope.
Never will.

I'm with Frank Zappa. "Broken hearts are for assholes".

filthyrich · 24th September 2007, 12:37 AM

Quote:

I'm with Frank Zappa. "Broken hearts are for assholes".

I agree. But..sadness I get. I could write a sad song about a bad relationship. Done it. Done it just fine. But, writing a song about someone that you currently are "in love" with...that's tough.
I can't even imagine writing about how the sunrise only makes me see your eyes in the skies while the days and clouds they float on by and why,? cause you're love's the one I hope will never die....n' shit.

henryrobinett · 24th September 2007, 12:38 AM

That's why I write a lot of instrumental love songs.

barryjohns · 24th September 2007, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henryrobinett

That's why I write a lot of instrumental love songs.

That's been my excuse as well

vernier · 24th September 2007, 01:51 AM

I righted sum and wrote one.

Oroz · 24th September 2007, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henryrobinett

That's why I write a lot of instrumental love songs.

Satriani's instrumental "Love Song" is monumental

.

I've written two love songs. Before getting married to my wife (about six years ago) I got inspired, we actually use it as our song at the wedding. And recently I got inspired again but this time by the support of our family during the illness of my Dad. This last song is still in the recording/production process but I think is going to turn out well.

Gear Tramp · 24th September 2007, 02:48 AM

It helps to actually BE in love.

"I'm not happy when I try to fake it... yeah..."

C Heat · 24th September 2007, 03:02 AM

Used to. Gave that up 10years ago - slow ballads / love songs that is.

When you're pitching songs to artists the last thing they ask for is a ballad.

All up-tempo for me

Charlie_M · 24th September 2007, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by filthyrich

....But, writing a song about someone that you currently are "in love" with...that's tough.

You can do it if you've been in love long enough. Long relationships, marriage, and other associated suffering seem like fertile territory for heavy songs.

DeBasement · 24th September 2007, 03:23 AM

I've done a bunch. For one thing, I'm tired of the 'feel my pain, life is a vapid hellhole' school of songwriting... Probably has to do with my not being a disenchanted 20-something anymore. And for another thing, being inspired by the John Lennon school of honest songwriting makes me realize that true love - no matter how uncool it is - is one of the only things I actually know something about (been happily married a looong time).

I also like the challenge of writing a positive, uplifting song. Much harder to do, but when done well it's a fabulous thing. Some of my favorite artists who've done it well: John Lennon, XTC, Shaun Colvin, Joni Mitchell, Prince, and of course all the classic old school tin-pan alley guys from Rogers and Hammerstein to Jimmy Van Heusen ('like someone in love', 'darn that dream',) Irving Berline, etc etc.

Much as I adore Zappa, you gotta wonder why a guy who clearly loved his wife and family never had the guts to write a single love song... Was he worried it wasn't rebellious enough? I dunno. Maybe I'll have to play Sheik Yerbouti a couple hundred more times until I understand fully.

allencollins · 24th September 2007, 03:42 AM

love songs are cool.
I like that song
all of my love by Zeppelin

octatonic · 24th September 2007, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by filthyrich

how the sunrise only makes me see your eyes in the skies while the days and clouds they float on by and why,? cause you're love's the one I hope will never die....n' shit.

Well I'm retching right now... so you probably have a winner on your hands.

I have no problem with emotion in music- but I try to keep lyrics intentionally obtuse.
It is one of those "by defining, you limit" type of affairs.
I could do it with irony, maybe.

LaLaFaV · 24th September 2007, 06:36 PM

Come on guys! This thread needs to turn into a gear related discussion before we get into trouble

What mic captures "love" the best for a ballad?
Which mic pre sounds the "saddest"?

diatonic · 24th September 2007, 11:21 PM

Unclenny · 25th September 2007, 12:01 AM

OK......

I'm on my 4th marriage.

I've got a ton of love songs....really.

I find that they only work if you come at it from a unique perspective.

For instance:

SoundClick song info: Go by Lenny and the Scapers - Song info page with MP3 music downloads

LaLaFaV · 25th September 2007, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diatonic

OT, but I think Plant cowrote All My Love when his son passed away.

I think it's the same reason for Clapton's "Tears in Heaven".
Both of those are beautiful and touching songs fueled by the type of grief that I would never want to experience.
Sorry, back on topic...

GregoryC · 25th September 2007, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allencollins

love songs are cool.
I like that song
all of my love by Zeppelin

+1...and "Something" by The Beatles ain't bad....

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23rd September 2007, 10:16 PM	#1
filthyrich Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 656	Ever write a ballad/love song? Tried once. It sucked. Happiness breeds soul..less..ness (is that a word?)..at least for me. Fast love songs don't count. I'm talking. OOOh "Amanda" type stuff. Or more recently, "Hey there delila" type stuff. By the way, the Delila song is a stalker song...he never dated her. Ah well. Back to drywall work on the house. ------------------------------------------------------- After reading..I notice...that I asked: Ever right a love song? what the hell? (Yikes. I need to self medicate less whilst drywalling) ------------------------------------------------------- __________________ my loud punk/metalish band can be heard at thirteenblack.net and/or myspace.com/thirteenblack Last edited by filthyrich; 23rd September 2007 at 11:32 PM.. Reason: Cause I'm an idiot.

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henryrobinett Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sacramento Posts: 5,936	I'm sorry. It must be said again. I've wronged many a ballad. I've written a bunch too. Some of those I've written I think I've inadvertently wronged as well. __________________ All the best, Henry Robinett

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octatonic Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London Posts: 4,796	Nope. Never will. I'm with Frank Zappa. "Broken hearts are for assholes". __________________ Regards, Jim Richmond "I don't go to mythical places with strange men." Douglas Adams

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henryrobinett Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sacramento Posts: 5,936	That's why I write a lot of instrumental love songs. __________________ All the best, Henry Robinett

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C Heat Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: BrisVegas Posts: 1,842	Used to. Gave that up 10years ago - slow ballads / love songs that is. When you're pitching songs to artists the last thing they ask for is a ballad. All up-tempo for me __________________ No matter WHAT you use, if you make a great song, gearslutz will start a thread asking about what you used, ... its funny, really... filterayok Jules, how do I put myself on Ignore? colinmiller I get a kick out of chaos. peeder

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DeBasement Gear nut Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 141	I've done a bunch. For one thing, I'm tired of the 'feel my pain, life is a vapid hellhole' school of songwriting... Probably has to do with my not being a disenchanted 20-something anymore. And for another thing, being inspired by the John Lennon school of honest songwriting makes me realize that true love - no matter how uncool it is - is one of the only things I actually know something about (been happily married a looong time). I also like the challenge of writing a positive, uplifting song. Much harder to do, but when done well it's a fabulous thing. Some of my favorite artists who've done it well: John Lennon, XTC, Shaun Colvin, Joni Mitchell, Prince, and of course all the classic old school tin-pan alley guys from Rogers and Hammerstein to Jimmy Van Heusen ('like someone in love', 'darn that dream',) Irving Berline, etc etc. Much as I adore Zappa, you gotta wonder why a guy who clearly loved his wife and family never had the guts to write a single love song... Was he worried it wasn't rebellious enough? I dunno. Maybe I'll have to play Sheik Yerbouti a couple hundred more times until I understand fully.

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Unclenny Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,571	OK...... I'm on my 4th marriage. I've got a ton of love songs....really. I find that they only work if you come at it from a unique perspective. For instance: SoundClick song info: Go by Lenny and the Scapers - Song info page with MP3 music downloads __________________ "The main thing is to have a gutsy approach....but use your head." Julia Child "get really immersed." bogeyeater Orient.....Organize.....Decide......Act Lenny and The Scapers

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