23rd September 2007
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#1 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | what mics do you like for horns
I usually go the large diagphram condensor route, like a u87. A respected engineer friend was recomending sm57...which do you all prefer. I was also thinking of using both...u87 a little bit away and an sm57 close.
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23rd September 2007
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#2 | | Gear maniac
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Obviously, it all depends on the room and the sound you're after, but I love a ribbon on trumpet...
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23rd September 2007
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#3 | | Gear addict
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large di condensors on saxes, ribbons on trumps and bones for me.
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23rd September 2007
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#4 | | Lives for gear
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I tend to gravitate towards:
Royer 121 on brass
AEA R84 on woodwinds
Call me crazy.
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23rd September 2007
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#5 | | Gear Guru
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R 84 for trumpet is wonderful
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#6 | | Lives for gear
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Senn 421s, EV RE-20, Senn. 609
I like dynamic mics on horns.
Ribbon mics on trumpets. Gives them a darker tone that takes away some of that brashness that I hear in trumpets sometimes.
414s work well too.
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#7 | | Lives for gear
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Yeah, i've been loving the R121 on trumpet and other brass.
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#8 | | Lives for gear
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beyer m160 -trumpets
rca 77 dx or u 87 --saxes
u 47 fet --bones
57 -uhh french horns
err i never cut a tuba
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#9 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Sigma err i never cut a tuba | Coles 4038 or maybe even an AKG D112.
Can't wait for the day when I get to track contra-bassoon.  |
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#10 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by picksail Coles 4038 or maybe even an AKG D112.
Can't wait for the day when I get to track contra-bassoon.   | cool ..one day hopefully
i did a quite a few bari saxes and a contra{string} bass [damn it was big]
btw as an aside
i was in alphabet city with a former employee and we went to this bar..there was this trio ..piano , tuba, drums...I was blown away!! whatta sound
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#11 | | Lives for gear
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OMG
The entire "Family of Saxophones" is featured - the tiny sopranino, the soprano, alto, tenor, baritone, and bass and the rare and monstrous 6'8" contrabass (described by The Los Angeles Times as "...an instrument with the stature of a power forward in the NBA and a pitch that makes a foghorn sound effeminate.") bwahahahaha
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#12 | | Lives for gear
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For me ribbon mics shine in this application. I've had extremely successful results with AEA R84s. Especially, on Tenor and Alto saxophones. 84s also sounded great on flutes, piccolos and clarinets. Trumpet typically gets an R92 or Royer 121. The R92 also works well on Trombone. I've used an RCA 77dx and SM7 on Tuba. I haven't tried the 77 on sax. The Coles 4038s have been on my wish list for some time now.
I understand they do a fine job as well. I love the 4038s as OH/room mics on drums.
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#13 | | Lives for gear
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My prefs are mostly ribbons - Coles 4038, Royer R-121/SF-1, AEA R-84/88, Beyer M160/M500NC, etc. or if there are no ribbons in the house, a 441 or an RE-20 can do. It really depends on the player's sound, and the room you're in.
Also, a U67 can sound damn nice, esp on softer blowing brass player...
I've recorded tuba lots, and my prefs are 4038 and R-121, for stereo the R-88 sounds HUGE and gorgeous...
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I'm waiting for someone to chime in asking why you would need a mic for a keyboard.
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23rd September 2007
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#15 | | Lives for gear
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The Coles have always worked for me. Trumpet and Bone. An RE20 works on a Bone, even on trumpet in a pinch.
At least one top shelp trumpet guy I record from time to time has a nice U$&. Of course he won't bring it. But he like the Coles as much.
Saxes....c12....U67, 47, 87.
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#16 | | Gear Guru
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RCA 77 on trumpet. Also Royer 121 or R84 work well for me on trumpet. Alto I love R84. Tenor R84 CAN work, but most often it doesn't for me. LD Condenser works best, especially the U47 variety. Bone ribbons as well - R84. French Horn R84 worked well.
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#17 | | Gear maniac
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I'd try a ribbon 1st.
121 maybe?
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#18 | | Gear Guru
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The problem is the question is way too general. A "HORN" is often considered a FRENCH HORN, to brass folk. Or sometimes generically any instrument. "Hey man, go get your horn and let's play some!" -- could be talking to a guitar player. But a lot of engineers refer to HORN as any instrument you put in your mouth to make a sound, and is brassy looking. All horns are different instruments and require different tools to record them.
I find Alto Sax requires much different treatment from Tenor sax. Trumpet is different than Flugelhorn or Coronet. It depends also whether you want to accentuate the brassy timbre or soften it. Same with trombone. It this ALL DEPENDS UPON THE PLAYER AND THE CONTEXT OF HIS PLAYING. A loud aggressive Bone player in a salsa band might want something different than one in a brass quintet or a jazz ensemble.
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24th September 2007
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#19 | | Gear maniac
Joined: May 2007 Location: Bristol UK
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| horn mics
hi there
there is quite a good post here outlining some stuff.
I am a trombonist and have put my preferences in there. Have a look http://www.gearslutz.com/board/low-e...ion-setup.html
Hope this helps
long
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1st October 2007
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#20 | | Gear interested
Joined: Feb 2007 Location: Houston
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| Blue Woodpecker for Bone?
I've got a jazz session coming up Wednesday...
Picked up a Blue Woodpecker ribbon at GC yesterday...it is returnable. http://www.bluemic.com/modules.php?o...dex&prod_id=20
Any thoughts on this mic for the trombonist/leader?
Thanks!
Buzz
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1st October 2007
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#21 | | Lives for gear
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Heil PR40 w/a Ward-Beck M470D mic preamp ("racked" by Dave Thomas) sounds real good..... |
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1st October 2007
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#22 | | Lives for gear
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| I like a combo that goes like this
shure sm57 and a akg 3000c... put the shure slightly above the other. use your phase reverse if needed and you will be suprised .... hope this helped
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1st October 2007
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#23 | | Moderator
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I'm a fan of R-122s on ALL of em!
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1st October 2007
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#24 | | Lives for gear
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I dig the Coles 4040 these days for all kinds of brass and sax.
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