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| Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Texas
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| Antelope Audio Isochrone 10m??? I heard about this and I didn't believe they were serious. Rubidium core and Atomic technology... Are they serious about this? Anyone had experience with these units? Just curious, I don't mean to dog on a product that I haven't used or even seen. What's the deal with rubidium core? And is there any merit to the atomic clock? |
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| Gear interested Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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| Hi, Yes, we're not only serious, but everyone who's heard the 10M with one of our OCX clocks has been very impressed. We've already sold the first 10 units and are producing more as we speak. In the past week, two mastering engineers in LA placed orders after doing A/B testing with and without the atomic clock and we even burned cds of a project before and after and could hear the difference on our personal cd players. It translates! The 10M is going to change the way music is recorded, mixed and mastered. It makes digital audio less harsh (warmer, if you will) and clearer at the same time. The stereo image is wider and more detailed. We've even sold three units to strictly audiophile customers who were flat out shocked at how much better their home systems sounded. I just got a report from Carlos Castro, who's using the 10M to mix the new Brian "Head" Welch cd (former Korn guitarist) and he says the tracks sound amazing with the 10M! Marcel James Antelope Audio marcelj@antelopeaudio.com |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Georgia
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| Aardvark re-born? isn't it true that most of the brains behind Aardvark were involved in forming Antelope audio? if that is true, i'd give their products a lot of credibility as some of the Aardvark stuff (especially their clock) was really great stuff. |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Georgia
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| Never Mind... I answered my own question.. it's all over their website about the aardvark relationship |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: London & Ibiza
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| I already have the OCX. The Atomic Clock is so cool I must have one!! Antelope Audio Great products. ![]() |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Los Angeles
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| Joe Gastwirt told me he heard it, and was totally knocked out by it. He uses the Isochrone to clock his Pacific Microsonics. |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Texas
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| I forgot about this product until now. I just read the little blurb from Michael Brauer. He was blown away and he bought one. Then he sent the antelope guys over to David Kahne, he heard it- was blown away and bought one. Then they took it over to Chris Athens and Greg Calbi. They heard it, were blown away... and bought one. I might have to at least try it out |
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| Gear nut Join Date: Nov 2007
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| does anyone know how much we are looking at here for price? |
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| Gear Head Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Houston, Texas
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| Gear interested Join Date: Feb 2006
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| I was lucky enough to have one demo'ed at my studio a couple of weeks ago, AB testing with a apogee and 192 and the results were astounding, it will certainly be a must for all sooner than later. Clock plus the 10k are about $7.3k . |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Texas
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| yes, yes... definitely looks like i'll have to try one out |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: London & Ibiza
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Especially if you mix OTB and/or record a lot. Mixing ITB only? Better safe your money... (I guess) I just placed an order fot the 10m, and guess what? They are sold out! On the waiting list for the next batch... I wished the OCX had varispeed though, where you can alter the SR by +/-5% or so. Like the Big Ben. It's good to have varispeed when recording sometimes. | |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Wales
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| So do you actually need a 10M and another workclock distribution unit or can you clock the converters directly from the 10M? I don't quite understand the 10 MHz bit.
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: London & Ibiza
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The 10M is only an Atomic clock generator, sending a 10mHz signal. The OCX can be run by it's internal 'oven' clock or external Atomic Clock. | |
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| Gear maniac | how good is it? It's the real deal folks. Yes, it's expensive but it truly makes the difference towards getting the sound more focused as it was intended. Every friend i've turned on to it, listened to it and bought one. I'm not sure what more I can say about it. I grew up with analog where the idea of a clock effecting the sound was not yet in the equation. The playback of the sound quality from the incoming signal was dependent on alignment of the machine, tape type, bias, azimuth, level, speed and how hard you hit it. It sounds like too many variables but despite all these, the sound generally came back focused and nothing really had much effect on that element of it. Depending on wordclock changed all that. The difference in the recording and playback of music using an average clock vs a great clock was astounding. The atomic clock added to the OCX-V(soon to be replaced by the trinity) reminds me of how focused great analog recording was. A friend of mine is going to be doing an A/B listening test of the OCX/10M against big ben. I'll let everyone know the result. michael brauer |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Texas
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| Thanks for chiming in Michael. I've got to say if Michael's ears could tell a difference then there's definitely something to this box. I can't wait to try this thing out. |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: May 2004 Location: Los Angeles ,Ca.
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| So whats the price on the OCX/M10 combo? .. |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: London & Ibiza
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| Gear maniac | It's a more versatile version of the OCX-V. It's going to be awesome! It offers three independent master clock rates( which we will use) It will also offer vari speed. this is going to be the biggest attraction to all DAW users that resolve to an external clock(PTHD and others). Why is this a godsend? At this point in time, when you want to vari speed your song, you are forced in PT HD to depend on the internal/VSO as your clock reference. So all that money you spent on a great clock is out the window for every varisped song you use. So what this means to me is that when I'm mixing a record using my Antelope clock and the client wants to varispeed the song, I can no longer use my Antelope. No external wordclocks on the market, that i'm aware of, offer a varispeed with a univeral standard such as +/- 0.00 semitones.cents. The Trinity will offer the univeral standard VSO function. Because of the two additional independent clocks within the Trinity, you will have the choice to make them varisped or not. Which means that i'll still be able to print to my masterlink at regular speed. The current software version of trinity will offer varispeed in cents +/- 200 cents with accuracy of 0.1 cent or percent +/- 9.9999 % with accuracy of 0.0001%. This means that you can simply copy the info from PT or Logic and enter it in the Trinity and you are set to go. NO more use for the internal clock. The Trinity is doing all these different tasks while maintaining only ONE master clock. It's expected to come out in the next couple of months and I can't wait because i want my varisped songs to sound as great as my atomic clocked ones do. Michael Brauer |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Foxboro, MA
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| Yo...guys...please wait while the Rubidium Generator is warming up. This thing is kinda crazy. We strapped an OCX-V with a 10M across our RADAR. Very, very crazy. I want a mic pre with rubidium transistors.
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| Gear maniac | The 10m has two great looking red strips on either side of the logo that pulses until the unit warms up. It's amazing isn't it? Everyone I turned this baby onto is flipping out. It wins the WOW award of the year. michael |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: London & Ibiza
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| I was really missing Varispeed on the OCX!! Can't wait for the Trinity... |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Europe
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| Is this really the first slutty piece of gear that you need to roast in an oven for it to sound better? ![]()
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| Gear addict Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: NYC
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| Man, I hate to be the naysayer in all this but I heard it with two other engineers and we really didn't feel it did very much compared to the OCX running on internal. All due respect the MB and others. Maybe it's system dependent? For us it wasn't a magic bullet -now my JCF converters and 2" 16 track -there's some fairy dust. |
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| Gear maniac | Quote:
Now as far as system dependent being a factor, I have Protools, sterling has Sequoia, Ludwig I think also has Sequoia.david Kahne uses Logic, Cuebase, Nuendo and PT all at the same time. Ryan Hewitt and Joel Hamilton use PT and Rick Ruben uses probably PT and everything else. So, I don't believe that plays a factor in sonics either. michael Correction, just got a note from bob. He doesn't use Sequoia. " I use Pro Tools and mostly the Pyramix which is capable of recording BOTH DSD or PCM unlike all the other DAWs except SADiE and Sonic Solutions." Last edited by MHB850; 14th February 2008 at 11:27 PM.. Reason: correction on ludwig | |
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| Gear addict Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: NYC
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| The sample rate may be a factor. We listened at 44.1k since that's generally where I do my projects and we were listening to final mixes. We listened in two studios actually. Hard to qualify but I'd say 5% difference in our case and with other songs less. If I heard 20% I'd definitely have made the jump or I wouldn't be sleeping well at night, lol. Our facility is doing a test in a few weeks so I'll have another listen. While the unit is here I'm going to plug it into one of my mixes where we're using up to 24 channels of IO for sends to analog and back into PT. I'm curious with all that conversion going on if I'll hear an improvement. For the record, I'm a fan of Igor's work. I had two aardsyncs and currently use the OCX. |
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| Gear maniac Join Date: Jun 2003
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| The moment marcel hooked up the 10M and the OCXV, I had to get one. What else can you get for your studio that makes every single piece of gear sound better? Every single piece!?! Thanks to Brauer for putting me on to this one.... it truly is amazing. I use PT HD3 accel, most of the time I am at 44.1. Just plug one in, even if you are listening to a mix, and then start by analyzing the main vocal/snare relationship. now go back to internal, or whatever other clock you were using. Listen again. You will buy a 10M. really. "the 'wow' factor of the year award" said it best. |
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