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| Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2003 Location: Norway
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Thread Starter | You're having good mixes when you believe in the performance
It's Saturday, you'd supposed to take some time off. But this mix is killing you, haunting you even when you're at the movies. Why won't the vocals come through? I've done every trick in the book and then some! Then you remember: The lead singer reading the lyrics from the sheet while he was singing. The guitar player who never got satisfied with playing in the control room. The drummer who treated his hats like it was Hitler or something.... And it strucks your mind: I don't believe in this! I don't belive the performance. It could be a smashing band that had lots of energy when you watched their gig. But you didn't catch the moment. Any good tips on making the band/artist doing their best? ruudman |
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| Gear addict Joined: Mar 2003 Location: The Netherlands (yes that's the country surrounding Amsterdam!)
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That's an easy one Do it the Phil Spector way: ........ with a gun!
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| Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2003 Location: Norway
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Thread Starter | Hoping to use a non-violent approch! ruudman |
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| Gear addict Joined: Mar 2003 Location: The Netherlands (yes that's the country surrounding Amsterdam!)
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nah, I would send them back to the rehearsal room. Tell the singer to learn his lyrics... Visit them while rehearsing, check out if the vibe is back... then record them all together in the studio. Like a live-band. (And maybe... I would tell them that we're recording just to listen back to it for adjustments.... so they play with less pressure). 0.2 |
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Ah thats production! Mental trickery Bully boy tacktics Bribery Visualisation suggestions ("get this right and girls will dig your band") Artist manipulation Eample - I got a drummer to imagine a huge stadium jumping up and down to his drum track - it worked! It got the steady groove I wanted. "sing it like you belive it?" "play that guitar like a man not a little girl" "you sound like you are acting, not singing, be yourself!" "hit those toms harder or it will sound shit when it comes to mixing time" "your past double tracking of evertyhing sounds like you are trying to hide weak singing - SING BETTER - the whole project will stand or fall on this issue" "if the lyrics dont mean anything f**king go and re write them so they do!" Etc....
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| Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2003 Location: Norway
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We all do! |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2002 Location: BELGICA, THE FLANDERS, VENICE OF THE NORTH !
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quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Jules Ah thats production! "sing it like you belive it?" "play that guitar like a man not a little girl" "you sound like you are acting, not singing, be yourself!" "hit those toms harder or it will sound shit when it comes to mixing time" "your past double tracking of evertyhing sounds like you are trying to hide weak singing - SING BETTER - the whole project will stand or fall on this issue" "if the lyrics dont mean anything f**king go and re write them so they do!" Etc.... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- write all this down on the bathroom wall, so they dont get angry if youre telling them. they all go to the loo dont they?
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| Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2003 Location: Norway
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thumbsup Some special info: The origin of the "writing on the wall"- thing comes from the Bible. But the catch is: the men who read that writing, supposedly died after reading it. Sure hope that Gearslutz' bathroom floors don't get that messy! ruudman |
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That is the best idea. I have always wanted to say some of this stuff, but sometimes I can't. I think that it would be better reading material than the pile of Maxims that are in the can now. Sweet. | |
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