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| | #121 |
| Gear Head Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 50
| I've seen those mics on ebay, and I suspected from the cheap price. I even went to shure website to see if they had a new 57 more affordable version, due to the low price showing on ebay. After some months a friend of mine got one of those microphones. We opened it , and after removing the resin/glue we found the chinese paper, and also the transformer bobin without wire. The wires also, were not yellow and green , like with the original 57 and 58. So things to look for are: -How much does it weight? -Does it have a transformer? is the output balanced? -Colour of the wires attaching from the bottom part(XLR) to the upper part(diaphragm) , they should be green and yellow Im pretty shure that the fake mics are the same as sold with the Tbone and Fame brands. |
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| | #122 |
| Gear addict Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 382
| I got caught with the same scam. The seller I bought off though wasn't even aware his account had been used to sell fake items. If the deal looks too good to be true, it almost definately is as far as new SM57's are concerned. |
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| | #123 |
| Gear addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: Santa Barbara / Woodland Hills
Posts: 452
| Leather? |
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| | #124 |
| 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 2,735
| Here's a FREE DIY mod for the ES-58 (et al) mics floating around that are imitation SM-58s. Allows you to tune or eliminate the presence boost built into these mics. Happy Holidays! best, M |
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| | #125 | |
| Gear interested Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 19
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here's just two of dozens of results. Hot selling!!Free shipping SM57 microphone mic brand new in box SM57LC 10pcs retail box SM57 LC 1786227 China Wholesale 2008-11-30 11:23:55 China wholesale+ freeshipping NEWEST SM 57 S Vocal Microphone Mic (20piece / lot).HOT SELLING on TradeTang.com Another clue posted by many folk on other forums is that Shure ALWAYS use yellow and green wires from the capsule to the body. Fakes apparently have red/green. | |
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| | #126 |
| Gear interested Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: italy/spain
Posts: 12
| hi guys! i have bought two sm57 here in italy. i have seen many articles on the web about spotting fake chinese copies. i am confused on mines... they have some details of the original and some of the fakes. - green and yellow wiring (both on the capsule and on the xlr connector, the original should have blue and red on the connector) - weight is 240 grams (original rated 284) - three holes in the bottom - on xlr connector i have marks for pin1,2,3 and shure, and also the silver line - resistance between pins 2 and 3 is 600 ohms (i've heard it must be 400) - the package contains all but the user guide and the sticker look very poor quality. the bag is the bigger one and has a "made in china" label inside. what do you think about them? |
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| | #127 |
| Gear Head Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Gold Coast
Posts: 64
| I'm thinking reviving this thread pob isn't the greatest thing seeming as everyone really says the same thing... Anyway, here's my bit: Just bought one off ebay, had had another one off an auth reseller. they are both the same except the finish, all wiring, pouch, etc is the same. the ebay one weights slightly less, but the thing that really gives it out: recorded 10sec of acoustic guitars with both mics: ebay(fake) one has a higher output and harsher sound real one has a bit more low mids and lower output. Hope this helps, but my advice is: You won't know if you got a fake one until you put it to the test with a real one... |
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| | #128 |
| Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 967
| Great thread, but if I was a counterfeiter I'd be studying all your close up pics and detailed descriptions and taking notes. The next wave off knock offs will be hard to pick now! |
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| | #129 |
| 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended. Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,071
| Many just realized they have fake 57's Quit ruining the placebos!!!! |
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| | #130 |
| Gear maniac Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 261
| I also have a very early sm57. So early that it still says "unidyne III, Shure Brothers Incorporated, SM57, made in the USA". See my picture below for an explanation of the second hole on older mics. I am positive that mine is not a fake, but it also has the ever-so-slightly recessed xlr connection as the fakes have. What gives it away for me more than anything is that the real ones seem to have solid pins on the xlr out, but the fakes appear to have hollow folded pins common in cheap manufacturing. They must have stolen the old design... |
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| | #131 |
| Gear addict | Have a close friend that works for Shure here in chicago take a look at this thread and I will post with feedback as soon as I hear back, he is at the Grammys so it may be a day or two. ![]()
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| | #132 |
| Lives for gear | I have a fake BETA57... I took it apart and all the shure markings inside are wierd/wrong
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| | #133 |
| Gear interested Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 1
| hi TS, do anyone here have info how to recognize the real shureSM58 with the fake one... thank you for the info :D |
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| | #134 |
| Gear addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Wales, UK
Posts: 484
| I have two 57's one real and one fake, i sort of knew it was fake as it was only £20 from ebay. But i have it here i never really depend on it but its good to have as a backup. and the punters cant tell your slapping a fake in front of their cab... unless they have ears. haha in all seriousness its not terrible compared to the real 57. |
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| | #135 |
| Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 929
| can you mod the fake one to sound like the original? ![]() |
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| | #136 |
| Gear nut Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: France
Posts: 137
| I think they sell it now on ebay as DL-330, not sure if that is it? |
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| | #137 |
| Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 891
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| | #138 |
| Gear nut | i plan to get a 57 in a few days, thanks! |
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| | #139 |
| Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Southern Cali
Posts: 893
| What a trip!!!! |
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| | #140 |
| Gear interested Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Vancouver BC
Posts: 23
| haha damn i knew that guy named Pedro who was selling of 57s for $50 on craigislist was not to be trusted! I think the counterfeiters must be getting wise because my fake 57 is indistinguishable from my real one. All markings and wires are 100% correct. The only difference is the fake leather pouch and lack of a serial number. I have had it for more than a year and only just now found out it was fake after reading this thread. I'll have to thoroughly A/B the two to see if there are any subtle differences, but as far as i can tell they sound the same. damn you Pedro!!! *shakes fist* |
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| | #141 |
| Gear Head Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: southern UK
Posts: 30
| I bought 4 from ebay(apparentlly used) for a fairlly low price $50 each shipped from canada to the uk. I thought they might be fakes and i could allways send them back if they sounded rubbish/were obvious fakes against my 12 year old definatly real 57. The weight is correct all the other things mentioned in this thread seem to be ok. and most importantlly of all they sound more or less exactlly the same (prehaps a little more of the proximity effect). Any differences could be explained by production changes in the last 12 years. all in all i think ill keep them. |
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| | #142 |
| Gear maniac Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orange County, California
Posts: 184
| Wow man, great thread, I just pulled out all my 57's haha. They all seem to be real so thats good. |
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| | #143 |
| Gear interested Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 7
| I just purchased a SM 58 and a SM57 for $75 each. After reading this thread I figured I had lost $150! ![]() However I sent in pics to Shure and just got confirmation that they are real. ![]() The printing on the boxes has changed here are pics of the new ones. ![]() ![]() |
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| | #144 |
| Gear maniac Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 245
| I KNEW this recently acquired 58 sounded like crap haha |
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| | #145 |
| Gear interested Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 23
| Dumb but serious question: Are any of these circulating in retail chains?? As new?? |
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| | #146 |
| Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,397
| This is nuts. Shure must be so frustrated with the problem. They probably don't want to publicly acknowledge it for fear it will affect their sales (ie. if everyone becomes paranoid about getting fakes, maybe they will just buy audix's or heil's etc. instead). Seems the counterfeiters are doing a frighteningly good job keeping up with Shure's appearances... |
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| | #147 |
| Lives for gear | Why wouldn't someone just buy one new? They are $100, come with a warranty, and will last forever... Cool you save $50 and now you have a mystery mic with a debatable background and no warranty.. I mean, at least get a u47 knockoff or something. Its like making counterfeit $1 bills.. |
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| | #148 | |
| 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended. Join Date: May 2009
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| | #149 |
| Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Newport News, Virginia
Posts: 1,331
| wow, i used to have 2 sm57's and sold them just last spring on ebay... Does anyone clone the sm7b? they seem fairly popular on the forums, not as much as the 57....if i was to buy another 57, i'd be buying local ...
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| | #150 |
| Gear maniac Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 200
| I think i have a fake SM57. Is it confirmed that the capsule resistance should be +-400 and not +-600??? |
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