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Best "NON leaking" headphones for vocal booth work?

Im using the AKG k271´s but I still get some "spill" into the mic.. Are there any other BETTER headphones that really isolate the sound and doesnt leak any audio out?

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I know I might get flamed for this....
BUT... If you can live with mono headphones of reasonable sound quailty....
Radio Shack has a set of headphones that are designed for use at (Auto) Race Tracks for monitoring the announcers.
They EXCELLENT for blocking out sounds and keeping them in.

I use them as a recording drummer with great results. I recently let some vocalists and horn players use them while tracking, and they were blown away on how good they worked.They could hear the backing tracks without having to turn it up loud.
They are around $80 here locally.

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your still leaking with AKG k271s... how loud are the headphones?
i usually use 271s, 770's or extreme isolations
had some by a company called studio kans, but someone broke them. they worked very well
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Bang for the buck, Sennheiser HD280.
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These get my vote...

UM2 Earphones (True-Fit Dual-Driver) :: Westone

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perfect for drummers who like to move around a lot...

also virtually no spill what so ever fantastic clean and open sound with tremendous bass response

They also get rid of ambient spill from the outside world really well meaning you can have lower volumes in the headphones protecting those precious ears.

about $180 or so of ebay I scored mine for including delivery to the uk from the states.

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I prefer the Sony 7506 for studio work.
They are loud and they clamp on your ears.
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They are expensive but they are the best IMHO

They are meant for on loud environment on location recording (i.e. Formula Racing or an Air Show etc..)

I own a set and they are outstanding
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Remote Audio HN-7506

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They are expensive but they are the best IMHO

They are meant for on loud environment on location recording (i.e. Formula Racing or an Air Show etc..)

I own a set and they are outstanding
Yeah, if I was buying a top of the range pair I'd get those or the GK-Music Ultraphones:

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Bang for the buck, Sennheiser HD280.
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Also Getting the headphone mix just right can save a lot of spill...but heck I think its great having some of the music go through the voc treatment....helps gel the mix a bit...
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Bang for the buck, Sennheiser HD280.



and the Sony 7506's will bleed. the louder they are...the more bleed. IF your headphone amp has EQ...cut the highend a bit.
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If you still have problems tell to the musician to use extra headphones over his head. You´ll have no bleed. Even with "deaf" musician this will work...
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Isophones are awesome. Although, not the greatest quality, and hurt your head after a while... But great for drummers too.
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If you still have problems tell to the musician to use extra headphones over his head. You´ll have no bleed. Even with "deaf" musician this will work...
which inears are good enough? cant remember seeing lots of these types around..
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your still leaking with AKG k271s... how loud are the headphones?
i usually use 271s, 770's or extreme isolations
had some by a company called studio kans, but someone broke them. they worked very well
I tried lowering volume of the music feeding the akg´s which the singer is wearing AND lowering the preamp, and that works a little.. But theres still a bit of leaking going on which irritates me. I rather have a clean vocal track than spending time silencing and doing extra editing..

I like the AKG´s but this is just annoying.
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which inears are good enough? cant remember seeing lots of these types around..
Shure SCL5 or SCL4.

I use this inear when bleeding. I remember some session when I need to put extra AKG 271 (without sound) to maximum bleed rejection on a very deaf guitar player.
No bleed outside...
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Try this . . .

Record a pass with the vocalist just standing (not singing) in front of the mic (exactly where they will be singing). Then go ahead and track your vocals. At mix, flip the phase of the vocal silent pass and mix it with the lead vocal take until the headphone bleed is inaudible.
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Shure SCL5 or SCL4.

I use this inear when bleeding. I remember some session when I need to put extra AKG 271 (without sound) to maximum bleed rejection on a very deaf guitar player.
No bleed outside...

Yup... I use these on any singer that will let me. Most guys/girls love them. No bleed at all....

I always try to get the drummers to wear them too. The only thing that they really find comfortable and completely eliminates bleed for those guys that need 10,000 db click track... lol.
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im looking for a dealer with the Shure SCL5 or SCL4. thanks for the tips!
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If you are looking for ordinary cans then sony 7506 or even better 7509 will NOT disappoint you.
I have the 7509 and they are simply put, incredible! Both quality and isolation is top notch.

If you want to go for the in-ear option I strongly recommend you to go for the shure option, ec2 and ec5 are the shure in-ears that I have and they are great.
The reason for choosing well known(expensive) brands as shure and sony is because you can find them anywhere in the world if a pair should brake, and of course also because they sound and function great and are being used by professionals all over the world.
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what about Vic Firth? Anyone tried those headphones?
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I prefer the Sony 7506 for studio work.
They are loud and they clamp on your ears.
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All you need for tracking work. You can get a cheap berenger headphone amp and turn down the highs a bit if you are working with a loud cue mix high freq wise (esp hats) All of my acapellas are quite as a mouse. They even work for those vocalists wanting "one ear out" while recording. The other ear muff just sits flush at the back of their head with no bleed.
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I prefer the Sony 7506 for studio work.
They are loud and they clamp on your ears.
Another for 7506's here as well.
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Try this . . .

Record a pass with the vocalist just standing (not singing) in front of the mic (exactly where they will be singing). Then go ahead and track your vocals. At mix, flip the phase of the vocal silent pass and mix it with the lead vocal take until the headphone bleed is inaudible.
Yeah but then when you get to the mixing stage and start EQing the vocals, you'll have your hands full.... ehe It sometimes can be troublesome. The best way is to make sure the vocals are sounding the way you want it for the mix.... Or the more you carve the frequencies, the more you'll affect the music phase flip as well.....

Works for certain genres of music like hard rock but not for some...
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If you're looking for something that won't break the bank, you can check out the Koss Pro-4AA's:

Amazon.com: Koss Pro-4AA Studio Quality Headphones: Electronics

Plusses: They do clamp on pretty well, though and bleed has never been a problem. That's why I got a pair several years ago. Also, they hold up well.

Minuses: These are a bit on the heavy side, so when I'm playing I'm also balancing them on my head.
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You cannot beat any in ear for isolation. You are basically using your ear canal as an iso booth for the in ear driver. Plus you can thrash around pretty well and they won't go flying off your head.
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If you're looking for something that won't break the bank, you can check out the Koss Pro-4AA's:

Amazon.com: Koss Pro-4AA Studio Quality Headphones: Electronics

Plusses: They do clamp on pretty well, though and bleed has never been a problem. That's why I got a pair several years ago. Also, they hold up well.

Minuses: These are a bit on the heavy side, so when I'm playing I'm also balancing them on my head.
i've had those before they didn't sound very good but the isolation was good. there was a company called studiokans that took them and replaced the drivers with 7506 drivers and they sounded a lot better. they weren't as heavy either.. i got the studiokans from ebay about a year ago for like $65

as of late i've been sticking with Equation RP-22x... they feel good.. not quite a good as 770's but they sound good , feel good and didn't bleed at all...
check them out
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The 7506's are good phones, but they are not the epitome of isolation. In ears are good, but not everyone likes them.
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Bang for the buck, Sennheiser HD280.
Not a fan at all of those. I think they're weak sauce in the bass department and bleed quite a bit. I much prefer the ATHM40's.
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Another for 7506's here as well.

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