H-Hats, Snare Bottom, Toms!

[Bobalou]

I know most go for the high end pre's for the critical overheads, kick/ front, snare top, Room, etc. but when more mics are desired on a kit, what are most folks using on less critical sources? (H-Hats, Snare Bottom, Toms)...

[jbuntz]

Sytek Burr Brown will be great on snare bottom and HH and the stock will be great on toms. I couldn't think of a more cost effective and perfect preamp for this.

[mdbeh]

Whatever's left?

When I have spare channels, I love using API's on toms.

[barforama]

Usually something like this:

Kick inside - Trident A-range
Kick outside - Trident A-range
Snare top - Trident A-range
Snare side - Drawmer 1969
Toms - Trident A-range's
OH - Great River MP-2NV perhaps Langevin DVC
HH - Drawmer 1969
AMB - D.W.Fearn VT-1

I guess that would be; on less critical sources mostly DVC or 1969.

[Bobalou]

Boy!...glad i didnt post this in the "high end" forum, no tellin what's being used up there

does anyone use small mixers for these duties?

thanks

[NathanEldred]

OH's - OSA MP1-C or Buzz MA2.2 with Sowters
Toms - Vintech 473 in 300 ohms
snare - OSA MP1-C or Vintech X73i (looking forward to trying new OSA MP1-L3)
Inside kick - Great River 1NV or OSA MP1-L
Outside kick - Vintech 1272 or 473 in 300ohms
HH - don't do it, OH's pick up more than enough

[toledo3]

On the cheap, the syteks or the rnp is going to be your best bet. As far as I know, most of the small mixers on the market, besides very expensive gear, sound particularly bad.... on the cheap/utility side of things, I do have a warm spot in my heart for the sound of some of the old tascam mixers, but I hesitate to recommend one.

On a side note, if you do mic the hat, you can use it as a key to duck the hat in the overheads. I see people not miking the hat as a way to counteract how unskilled drummers really wail away on the hat... but even though it is counterintuitive, having a devoted hi-hat mike will allow you the opportunity to have less hat in the final mix. Just a thought.

[ojay]

On a side note, if you do mic the hat, you can use it as a key to duck the hat in the overheads. ... having a devoted hi-hat mike will allow you the opportunity to have less hat in the final mix. Just a thought.

Never even thought of that! Good idea might have to try that one out. Have you had much success with this technique? How much do you duck by, not much I would presume?

Olly

[Drumsound]

I have a Neotek Elan an I love the sound of the preamps for drums in general. Sytek sometimes has racked up Elan strips on eBay.

" On a side note, if you do mic the hat, you can use it as a key to duck the hat in the overheads. I see people not miking the hat as a way to counteract how unskilled drummers really wail away on the hat... but even though it is counterintuitive, having a devoted hi-hat mike will allow you the opportunity to have less hat in the final mix. Just a thought."


I know someone already gave props for this but, I have to as well.

You just changed the way I mic the kit forever.
well....at least for the next few sessions.

[Jay Kahrs]

Usually console preamps. If there are leftover outboard micamps once the whole kit and band are together I'll use them on toms. I almost always run HH & snare bottom through the console for EQ and to flip polarity when needed.