Your, "Go to" EQ for metal kick drum?

Klauth · 21st August 2007

For those of you who are using an outboard EQ(s) for your metal projects. what are you using and why?

lowfreq33 · 21st August 2007

API 550. Cause it works.

Sigma · 21st August 2007

the waves eq because i can pinpoint and suck out al the 200 - 800 i need to and then a 550 for the 5k and a pultec for the low end

mltamisin · 21st August 2007

The API 550B or A will rock a metal kick drum. Especially if you pair it with an API 512 or 312 pre.

84K · 21st August 2007

API 550a followed by API 560. Get the edge with the 550a and the The graphic can do the smiley face eq and bring the click out while sucking out all the midrange.

Sigma · 21st August 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by 84K

API 550a followed by API 560. Get the edge with the 550a and the The graphic can do the smiley face eq and bring the click out while sucking out all the midrange.

that is the basic classic set up

heyman · 21st August 2007

I would love to pick up a API eq...

For now, the TOFT ATB eq has done a great job shaping and toning for me.

Doc Mixwell · 21st August 2007

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The 5033 can do some sheer magic on metal kick drum!! If you find that you kick has too much "plump" round texture with not enough click and smack, it would be incredibly simple to pull out the "honk" and murky hollow sound without hearing ANY sort of "EQ'd" effect. The 5033 has got to be one of the most passive sounding equalizers I have ever used. <o:p></o:p>
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It would allow you to pull out the "note" of the drum and tune the attack of the beater head to you're taste. It also works really well for snare when you have too much ring or "boxy" resonance that can certainly obscure the picture and hide the "crack" of the top head.<o:p></o:p>
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crypticglobe · 21st August 2007

Yup... API 5500 here. Just amazing. Nothing does that "click" on the top end like the API.

Michael Wagener showed me a technique that I have been using very successfully as well.

I do the inside with a shure SM-91, and the outside with a Yamaha Sub-Kick. I find the mid "honky" sound that I want for presence on the inside mic and boost it a bit, boost the top end to get the right "click" if needed (sometimes not). Then, I high-pass at a pretty extreme amount... 500 somtimes.

On the subkick, I low pass pretty extreme too... often at 1K or more.

This leaves you with only the top end attack and the super low thud. Blend the two together and WOW! Sounds amazing, and leaves you plenty of room for the bass guitar.

Michael then delays the outside mic the number of milliseconds that corresponds to the dominant frequency of the kick drum so it won't trigger the compressor. I have messed around with this a bit myself and still haven't got it quite right, but all the stuff above has really, really worked well.

Hope this helps...

RCM - Ronan · 21st August 2007

For me its the EQs on my D&R console for sucking out mids and then the A Designs EM-PEQ to add in any needed low thump and aggressive click.

patrox247 · 21st August 2007

For metal kicks my typical chain is - Distressor - Neve 1081 - Manley MP - API 5500 - API 560

I like this chain
It kills! In fact it can kill you while it's killing you!

21st August 2007	#1
Klauth Gear addict Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 399 Thread Starter	Your, "Go to" EQ for metal kick drum? For those of you who are using an outboard EQ(s) for your metal projects. what are you using and why?

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Sigma Lives for gear Joined: May 2006 Location: phallicdelphia Posts: 4,618	the waves eq because i can pinpoint and suck out al the 200 - 800 i need to and then a 550 for the 5k and a pultec for the low end __________________ "The notes I handle no better than many pianists. But the pauses between the notes, ah, that is where the art resides." Artur Schnabel http://miketarsia.com http://www.myspace.com/miketarsia https://members.grammy365.com/users/mike-tarsia

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heyman Lives for gear Joined: May 2005 Location: Providence, RI Posts: 2,769	I would love to pick up a API eq... For now, the TOFT ATB eq has done a great job shaping and toning for me. __________________ Best quote ever....! Posted by Infernal Device.. "Guitar Center.... Even the good news is in the moan zone."

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Doc Mixwell 70% coffee & 30% beer Joined: Dec 2006 Location: Quincy, MA Posts: 7,731	Portico 5033 Check out the Portico 5033,<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> The 5033 can do some sheer magic on metal kick drum!! If you find that you kick has too much "plump" round texture with not enough click and smack, it would be incredibly simple to pull out the "honk" and murky hollow sound without hearing ANY sort of "EQ'd" effect. The 5033 has got to be one of the most passive sounding equalizers I have ever used. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> It would allow you to pull out the "note" of the drum and tune the attack of the beater head to you're taste. It also works really well for snare when you have too much ring or "boxy" resonance that can certainly obscure the picture and hide the "crack" of the top head.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> peace<o:p></o:p> mixwell <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> __________________ Adam Brass adam@dspdoctor.com DSPdoctor "Pro Audio Gear And Advice for the Modern Recording Studio" ________________ "Any opinions above are worth exactly what you paid for them." Anonymous "If I find 10,000 ways something won't work, I haven't failed. I am not discouraged, because every wrong attempt discarded is another step forward. Thomas Edison RTFM

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crypticglobe Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2004 Location: Nashville Posts: 2,523 2 Reviews written	Yup... API 5500 here. Just amazing. Nothing does that "click" on the top end like the API. Michael Wagener showed me a technique that I have been using very successfully as well. I do the inside with a shure SM-91, and the outside with a Yamaha Sub-Kick. I find the mid "honky" sound that I want for presence on the inside mic and boost it a bit, boost the top end to get the right "click" if needed (sometimes not). Then, I high-pass at a pretty extreme amount... 500 somtimes. On the subkick, I low pass pretty extreme too... often at 1K or more. This leaves you with only the top end attack and the super low thud. Blend the two together and WOW! Sounds amazing, and leaves you plenty of room for the bass guitar. Michael then delays the outside mic the number of milliseconds that corresponds to the dominant frequency of the kick drum so it won't trigger the compressor. I have messed around with this a bit myself and still haven't got it quite right, but all the stuff above has really, really worked well. Hope this helps... __________________ Steve Lamm Cryptic Globe Recording CGR Studios - Engineering, Mixing, and Production Cryptic Globe Recording - Custom PC DAW Systems! Ask me about my Custom Mac!!

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lowfreq33 Lives for gear Joined: Apr 2007 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 2,186	API 550. Cause it works.

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mltamisin Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2005 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 1,173 1 Review written	The API 550B or A will rock a metal kick drum. Especially if you pair it with an API 512 or 312 pre.

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84K Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2004 Location: right coast Posts: 3,857	API 550a followed by API 560. Get the edge with the 550a and the The graphic can do the smiley face eq and bring the click out while sucking out all the midrange.

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RCM - Ronan Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 4,414	For me its the EQs on my D&R console for sucking out mids and then the A Designs EM-PEQ to add in any needed low thump and aggressive click. __________________ Ronan Chris Murphy+ http://ronansrecordingshow.com Six Day Recording Boot Camps in Los Angeles July 16-21, 2012

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patrox247 Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2003 Location: Orange County California Posts: 1,700	For metal kicks my typical chain is - Distressor - Neve 1081 - Manley MP - API 5500 - API 560 I like this chain It kills! In fact it can kill you while it's killing you!

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