85db without a Meter...anyone?

Absolute · 18th July 2007

Hey guys

This might be fun

I know a lot of people are so used to hearing mixes at 85db without a meter

How would you describe 85db(the flat freq level)?

I have a good description that involves how may feet away a person has to be before you cant hear them talking while your listening at 85db. Anyone have a good description? You can joke around too

peat · 18th July 2007

i find its usually if you have to raise your voice to talk to someone about 3 or so feet away (arms length) its over 85dBSPL
if you still have intelligibility of speech at that distance
your in the ballpark of 85dBSPL

Absolute · 18th July 2007

Thats a good one

narcoman · 18th July 2007

yup. Raised voice - not yelled.! 85dbSPL (actually the oft quote figure is 83) isnt that loud, so you shouldnt be yelling your guts out!

Mr. Man · 18th July 2007

I find that 85 is just before things 'seem' to get genuinely loud. But maybe that's just my ears.

peeder · 18th July 2007

I find well-mastered music just sounds right at roughly that volume. On a full-spectrum playback system and treated room of course.

Level can be seductive, but then you go demo something to someone, and they don't turn it up, or their system just sucks, and the experience doesn't translate. So you're forced to make it seductive and powerful at 83 or 85 and you end up with a better product.

Not to mention functioning ears.

Absolute · 19th July 2007

I agree P

Loud covers up a lot of inbalance too. I love monitoring at real low levels for the most part then checking at the right level.

18th July 2007	#1
Absolute Lives for gear Joined: May 2003 Location: NY Posts: 1,142 Thread Starter	85db without a Meter...anyone? Hey guys This might be fun I know a lot of people are so used to hearing mixes at 85db without a meter How would you describe 85db(the flat freq level)? I have a good description that involves how may feet away a person has to be before you cant hear them talking while your listening at 85db. Anyone have a good description? You can joke around too __________________ ATTENTION If you just used the word MUSICAL in your post... You just repeated a term, you heard from some pansy, that has absolutely no meaning. Congratulations.....Your a follower.

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Mr. Man Gear maniac Joined: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 288	I find that 85 is just before things 'seem' to get genuinely loud. But maybe that's just my ears. __________________ Mr. Man

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18th July 2007	#2
peat Lives for gear Joined: May 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 519	i find its usually if you have to raise your voice to talk to someone about 3 or so feet away (arms length) its over 85dBSPL if you still have intelligibility of speech at that distance your in the ballpark of 85dBSPL

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narcoman Lives for gear Joined: May 2007 Location: UK Posts: 9,574	yup. Raised voice - not yelled.! 85dbSPL (actually the oft quote figure is 83) isnt that loud, so you shouldnt be yelling your guts out!

18th July 2007	#6
peeder Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2006 Location: No longer participating here. Posts: 6,705	I find well-mastered music just sounds right at roughly that volume. On a full-spectrum playback system and treated room of course. Level can be seductive, but then you go demo something to someone, and they don't turn it up, or their system just sucks, and the experience doesn't translate. So you're forced to make it seductive and powerful at 83 or 85 and you end up with a better product. Not to mention functioning ears.

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Absolute Lives for gear Joined: May 2003 Location: NY Posts: 1,142 Thread Starter	I agree P Loud covers up a lot of inbalance too. I love monitoring at real low levels for the most part then checking at the right level.