vocal pitch tuning basics
Old 18th July 2007
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vocal pitch tuning basics

TC helicon Voicetone Correct vocal pedal

How can pitch correction help with my vocals to stay in PITCH, and hit solid notes to stay in KEY and PITCH of the chords of the song?

How can i use this to guide me or put a guide track for vocals by using pitch correction please?

How do u guys use pitch correction or other plug in's on vocals tracks to make them sound in KEY and in PITCH better?

How can i use this TC helicon Voicetone Correct vocal pedal to make better vocal tracks? how would u guys use this pedal please?

what are the basics on doing vocal pitch tuning?
Old 18th July 2007
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When I use pitch correct on Logic, you have to set the TIME right. With pitch correction, you can set a key, and you have to carefully set how fast it works in order to get the best result. If the singing is really fast you want a fast response, and vice versa. It's like using a compressor. If you set it too fast it will try to correct the pitch halfway through a "vocal bend"

Look at the manual for your specific piece.
Old 18th July 2007
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1.) when using pitch correction how can u make the vocal notes not JUMP or BEND?
so u DON't get that digital pitch correction robot sounds?

2.) when using pitch correction how can u make the vocal notes be in tune? do u have to change every single note one by one?
Old 18th July 2007
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What can i use to DISPLAY for my vocals like a guitar tuner to know if my note is solid pitch or drifting out of pitch? but i need a unit/pedal that will DISPLAY

I need a vocal tuner like a guitar tuner what would work please? so i can be looking at the display while i'm singing
Old 18th July 2007
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Use a guitar tuner. It won't mind.
Old 18th July 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwiburger View Post
Use a guitar tuner. It won't mind.
Those guitar tuners are usefull for all kinds of stuff.

Recently I used a boss tuner (the white one) to figure out exactly how much I should slow the tape down so we could do some vari-speed recording.
Old 18th July 2007
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an engineer i work with
who is fantasttic at autotuning uses this technique

inserts an autotune on the track for basic tuning

and had another autotune window open from audiosuite
for any lines that are badly out
he will record into autotune, and then go into the graph window and physically draw in the correct pitch with the pencil, while still retaining rises in and out of the line
Old 22nd July 2007
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what can i use to DISPLAY METER for vocals?
Old 22nd July 2007
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Old 22nd July 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peat View Post
an engineer i work with
who is fantasttic at autotuning uses this technique

inserts an autotune on the track for basic tuning

and had another autotune window open from audiosuite
for any lines that are badly out
he will record into autotune, and then go into the graph window and physically draw in the correct pitch with the pencil, while still retaining rises in and out of the line

1
Yep that's graphical mode... you open up the wav highlight the the bit that is wrong
open auto tune >
click "graphical mode button" >
click track pitch >
preview the bit which is wrong >
it will draw a graph >
then click make vibrato curve>

then you can move the whole lot up or down using the various tools
or use the scissors to cut the parts you want to pitch....


I NEVER use Auto tune on a whole vocal track it s

2
This is a real dodgy method I have heard of but never used myself

Monitor in software and have auto tune on the channel you are recording to
so the singer is hearing his voice through auto tune they will hear auto tune messing with their voice and they will know when they are going out.
Then you remove the auto tune and it SHOULD be Ok..????

I am the vocal coach and I won't use the above method as I believe it sucks the life out of a natural performance and the engineer (me) or the singer will know which word/phrase is wrong and then you just keep
doing a few more goes at it. if all else fails use method 1 above...

if your recording yourself get someone who can hear a bad note to sit in with you...

and don't try so hard...relax....tension is the cause of most wrong notes..


Old 22nd July 2007
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what can i use for a vocal guide?

Some people say to play the melody notes with a piano and playback the vocal melody notes in the headphones so when i sing i can hit solid vocal notes


The problem i'm having is when i'm singing over the chords , and then i playback the song with vocals i don't know what notes im singing and trying to transcribe the vocal melody to a keyboard piano notes is really hard how can i do this easier

Would singing into a "notation program" give me the melody notes better. So i can see my vocal melody writen out in MIDI?

How or what can i use so when i sing my vocals it will write out in MIDI notation in real TIME???
Old 22nd July 2007
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Is that you Walters?

Mic modellers.... I've been beta testing the next Antsarus plugin: Its called Classic Vocalist modeller.

I'm working on Ella right now.

Tomorrow its Satchmo
Old 22nd July 2007
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Sorry, its Antarez, not Antsarus
Old 23rd July 2007
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You guys really need to check out melodyne. Its by far the easiest most natural and accurate tuning solution out there.

I pretty much just let the singers sing now and fine tune em. Autotune is crap in comparison to melodyne. Melodyne even has detection for rough gritty singers. You can correct mis detection. You cant do that in autotune.

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Check it out. Amazing program. You can make harmonies with it as well that are the right ones. They can sometimes sound weird but on certain singers it works well.
Old 27th July 2007
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anyone?
Old 27th July 2007
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Walters is BACK!!
Old 27th July 2007
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all this sounds complicated...........what are simple ways of using auto tune?
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