Yamaha n Series

[Raymondina]

Hi again,
thanks for quick replies. I just tried the n8 on an old computer with a PCI fw adapter. It works thumbsup. I was first worried that I had broken the n8 during the firmware update but now I know that the problem is in the other end of the fw-cable; my PCMCIA fw adapter, my laptop or its drivers and OS.

I know that there is some communication between the computer and the n8 since the 5 location buttons are working in Cubase AI. Does this mean that my PCMCIA card is working? The fw adapter I use is http://www.exitdata.se/exit/prodinfo.asp?id=95 (site language is Swedish however). I've been using it with Mackie Onyx Satellite with no problems before.

Is XP sp3 the problem? The older computer has sp2.

Any other ideas?

Regards / Mattias

[petrovinksy]

pretty sure i read that sp3 cripples firewire, not sure how to fix that though.

[Raymondina]

Hi,
my n8 is now fully working. Uninstalling WinXP SP3 did it.

Thanks a lot for your help.

Regards / Mattias

[nik nak]

Hello all,

more issues - this time im trying to add n12 audio channels to older cubase .cpr files that were made before i bought my n12.

If i go to device setup > VST Audio System > Yamaha steinberg FW, all the states are inactive (apart from I/O In - N12 Direct Out 9 & 10, for some reason?? and the I/O out - Monitor L & R, of course)

Is it possible to make any of these 'active', as simply clicking on them does nothing!??!

Thanks

[muso36]

Just thought I would try a new install of Windows sp2 32bit after reading the last post but alas it has not cured the audio dropouts. Boxed up and sent back to Yamaha to be tested on a computer with similar configuration. I have not had a working N12 since my order 8 weeks ago. Fed up!

[Cinemuso]

Originally Posted by d3man

Just to pass by and recommend:

People, get Cubase 5 and get all the software updates-for n12/8 AND Cubase (5.0.1)

Everything will be smooth going!

I had n12 since october 2007. and it never worked soo good!

+1 here too (using the n8). Very smooth now.

[Flyingossip]

i'm using yamaha N8 and windows xp SP2. my question is:

1. why the driver always stopped? i always have to restart over and over

2. can anybody guided me how to install step by step the latest driver? i'm confused of firmware,driver,tools for n.

[DSpec1]

really quick question as a I am considering purchasing a higer0quality ad converter.

Can a Lucid A/D converter be used in the following way?:

Preamp(s) to converter to N12 insert?

I have a Neve Portico, UA 610 MK II, SSL Mynx bundle etc. other external compressors

I want to ensure that I am getting the most from this great outboard. I know the N12's converters are good, but I was looking at a Lucid or Mytek...

[mkok]

Download the latest driver and go through the pdf supplied. If you follow it word for word you can not go wrong. Make sure you also download the firmware for the firewire interface and the desk firmware

[Geosync]

Originally Posted by DSpec1

really quick question as a I am considering purchasing a higer0quality ad converter.

Can a Lucid A/D converter be used in the following way?:

Preamp(s) to converter to N12 insert?

I have a Neve Portico, UA 610 MK II, SSL Mynx bundle etc. other external compressors

I want to ensure that I am getting the most from this great outboard. I know the N12's converters are good, but I was looking at a Lucid or Mytek...

The convertors are probably nearly the same but that's a matter of opinion

Maybe somebody besides me will give their opinion.

[muso36]

Originally Posted by muso36

Just thought I would try a new install of Windows sp2 32bit after reading the last post but alas it has not cured the audio dropouts. Boxed up and sent back to Yamaha to be tested on a computer with similar configuration. I have not had a working N12 since my order 8 weeks ago. Fed up!

Hi everyone. It seems the N12 is not faulty - as I had feared! Yamaha support have been great but I now have a computer problem that has become a nightmare. I have ordered a belkin firewire card as this seems to be the audio industry standard. Suggestions anyone? .......... Anyone?

[Groberts]

How do the Preamps and Converters in the Yamaha N Series compare to the Apogee Duet / Ensemble? Has anyone ever compared them directly?

[andrew caramia]

Originally Posted by Geosync

As I said before I wanted to write some user guides for the n12 with outboard gear.

Here is my short list, remember if it gets too specific it will get too long and
take me forever to complete

1: Using an Analog Mic Pre/EQ/Comp while tracking
2: Using external FX while mixing
3: Using Stereo Mastering FX to DAW Stereo Track
4: Using Stereo Mastering FX to an External 2 Track
4: Using Cubase's External FX sends and returns

george, this is what i've been waiting for. i havent purchased a n12 yet, but if this guide ever happens it will be the deciding point for myself and a few other guys i know. bring it on!

[Geosync]

Originally Posted by andrew caramia

george, this is what i've been waiting for. i havent purchased a n12 yet, but if this guide ever happens it will be the deciding point for myself and a few other guys i know. bring it on!

Sorry Andrew,

There just isn't any time with my new my new responsibilities.
Maybe collectively you guys can combine those points you've shared here into some
helpful document.

[BrianR]

Originally Posted by muso36

Hi everyone. It seems the N12 is not faulty - as I had feared! Yamaha support have been great but I now have a computer problem that has become a nightmare. I have ordered a belkin firewire card as this seems to be the audio industry standard. Suggestions anyone? .......... Anyone?

Hi muso36,

I read on a Steinberg forum that it is suggested that "Intel Speed Step Technology" (also known as EIST in some BIOS's I think) should be turned off.
This feature apparantly allows the operating system to continually vary the speed of the CPU depending on what it thinks the most resulting economical power saving might be and this has been suggested as a possible cause of audio dropouts on Steinberg's MR816 audio interfaces (google Intel Speedstep Technology Steinberg).
Not sure if this would have anything to do with it but perhaps worth a try in the meantime,

Brian

[muso36]

Originally Posted by BrianR

Hi muso36,

I read on a Steinberg forum that it is suggested that "Intel Speed Step Technology" (also known as EIST in some BIOS's I think) should be turned off.
This feature apparantly allows the operating system to continually vary the speed of the CPU depending on what it thinks the most resulting economical power saving might be and this has been suggested as a possible cause of audio dropouts on Steinberg's MR816 audio interfaces (google Intel Speedstep Technology Steinberg).
Not sure if this would have anything to do with it but perhaps worth a try in the meantime,

Brian

Hi Brian, Thanks very much for this. Unfortunately it has not helped.
I also tried some different ram in the pc today and have flashed the bios but this has not made any difference either. Steve from the support line has indicated that the Yamaha r & d are on the case as there is another customer with the same issue. Apparently his is a home built pc as well.
The firewire irq is a lowly no. 23 and is also allocated to one of the usb's as well. Not sure if this might make a difference but I am going to investigate. Bob

[johnnyz]

I cannot for the life find where the free loops are ,i am on a mac jz

[muso36]

Originally Posted by muso36

Hi Brian, Thanks very much for this. Unfortunately it has not helped.
I also tried some different ram in the pc today and have flashed the bios but this has not made any difference either. Steve from the support line has indicated that the Yamaha r & d are on the case as there is another customer with the same issue. Apparently his is a home built pc as well.
The firewire irq is a lowly no. 23 and is also allocated to one of the usb's as well. Not sure if this might make a difference but I am going to investigate. Bob

Hi Brian and everyone. Fitted the new belkin firewire card (exactly the same chipset as the motherboard!) and it works with no dropouts! Go figure that one! I am not sure what that tells us, but all the research looking for the right motherboard seems to have been a waste of time. My advice to anyone would be to add the firewire with the belkin card and play safe.

[bikegerm]

Hey there everyone. I recently purchased a new macbook pro 2.66ghz intel core 2 duo with 4 gb of ram. I also purchased a small ProTools LE8 Mbox 2 Profactory bundle. I've been happy with my N12 Cubase 4.5.2 setup but I was curious as to how my N12 would interface with L8E. Anyone have any experience with this? Can I replace the Mbox with the N12 and have it be my interface? Would this give me 16 in's/out's if I installed the Yamaha Steinberg FW driver? I must say the editing interface in ProTools is much easier than in Cubase.

If the N12 doesn't work with ease like it does with cubase, is there a way I could record in cubase, xfer the files to ProTools where I'll comp, tune, etc... then xfer them back to cubase to mix?

Thanks for the insights.....

Randy LeRoy

[johnnyz]

you can not use the n-12 as a interface for protools,but you can record your tracks in cubase and then import them into protools for mixing,editing and whatnot,i do it all the time.jz

[Blister]

Hey guys. I've owned the N12 for about a year now, and it's been fanfreekintastic, right up until I installed Vista.

D-loaded all the new MLAN tools etc. Everything installed ok, but I'm not getting any sound and auto connector does not find the device, nor does graphic patchbay. Have also installed the new firewire driver, which seems to recognise the N12 no probs.

Also updated the firmware on the N12. Seemed to be no issues... until now!

Any thoughts?

Cheers.

Jim

[Blister]

OK! Just realised there's a new driver?

win_tools_for_n_v200

Installed. Uninstalled MLAN (YAY!) Sound ahoy!

Cheers.

[gurian1]

Not much action on the Yamaha thread..must be working well! How are the new drivers working for everyone? Great here!

Rob

[soundrage]

Originally Posted by gurian1

Not much action on the Yamaha thread..must be working well! How are the new drivers working for everyone? Great here!

Rob

I'm still on the old drivers/

I'll update when I got to Cubase 5. But everything is working great!

[58lespaul]

Originally Posted by Groberts

How do the Preamps and Converters in the Yamaha N Series compare to the Apogee Duet / Ensemble? Has anyone ever compared them directly?

I am also interested in this. How do the Pre-amps compare to other stand alone pre-amps as well?

[mkok]

I've been running the new driver for a while now and I just do not have to think about it anymore. With the last driver I had to boot in the right order. I just turn it on and start recording. Hasn't crashed or gone silent on me like the last driver did at times (especially after opening an old project on a different sound card)

Well worth the update as far as I am concerned

[Geosync]

So glad to see the positive posts. Since I can't respond with the frequency of the past.
Nice to know my "Babies" and my friends are doing well.

[Groberts]

Originally Posted by 58lespaul

I am also interested in this. How do the Pre-amps compare to other stand alone pre-amps as well?

It seems the the lions share of posts on this thread are related to driver related issues with Windows / Vista PC's and other technical problems or questions related to general usage of the Yamaha N8/N12 Series mixers.

Is there another thread about Yamaha N Series Mixers where GS particpants address more comparative questions about Yamaha Pre's and converters compared to other products? (Such as compared to Apogee Duet/Ensemble?)

I have to admit with all the users on this thread who own Yamaha N8/N12 Mixers, I am surprised they don't chime in regarding 'yamaha compared to' to other products. I am not diss'ing, ...just sayin'. But it occurs to me maybe this is intended to be a technical issue thread only? Hence my question.

Thanks!

[soundrage]

Originally Posted by Groberts

I have to admit with all the users on this thread who own Yamaha N8/N12 Mixers, I am surprised they don't chime in regarding 'yamaha compared to' to other products. I am not diss'ing, ...just sayin'. But it occurs to me maybe this is intended to be a technical issue thread only? Hence my question.

Thanks!

There's been a fair amount of talk about other pre's etc. But it's a long thread.

[grame99]

Originally Posted by Groberts

It seems the the lions share of posts on this thread are related to driver related issues with Windows / Vista PC's and other technical problems or questions related to general usage of the Yamaha N8/N12 Series mixers.

Is there another thread about Yamaha N Series Mixers where GS particpants address more comparative questions about Yamaha Pre's and converters compared to other products? (Such as compared to Apogee Duet/Ensemble?)

I have to admit with all the users on this thread who own Yamaha N8/N12 Mixers, I am surprised they don't chime in regarding 'yamaha compared to' to other products. I am not diss'ing, ...just sayin'. But it occurs to me maybe this is intended to be a technical issue thread only? Hence my question.

Thanks!

i don't have access to a range of other pre-amps in order to offer you my own subjective opinion. however, you might want to look at some professional reviewers' opinions such as the review in sound on sound. i'm certainly happy with it.