Yamaha n Series

[muso36]

Originally Posted by SochiTag

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I'm really fed up ... on the page: Drivers and Software | Downloads | Yamaha Synth.com

is says - for more detailed information, please read Software Installation in "UpdateGuide_en.pdf".

Anyone know where this PDF is located?

Is there not a simple step by step guide for installation?

Hi, I was browsing the revamped site last night and found it here at

the bottom right of the page ....

Manuals | Downloads | Yamaha Synth.com

It is all a bit confusing although I think the new site helps make things a little more understandable. Regards, Bob

[SochiTag]

I'm no closer as the document doesn't have info about the new driver?

[ScottFreeStyle]

Im thinking of upgrading to Cubase 5, how are people geting on with 5 and the N12

[mkok]

N12 working fine with Cubase 5 here. The document you are after is in the tools 2 download and not seperate. Unzip the file and all the pdf's are there. The same goes for the firmware downloads as well.

I upgraded mine which is a brand new replacement last night. I followed the pdf exactly and it went smooth without a single hitch. Just make sure you have everytnig ready and all files unzipped and in folders as described in each pdf and follow the main one through which is in the tools 2 download.

This upgrade to the drivers and firmware does really need you to read the pdf though. This can not be done by guessing and double clicking exe files and hoping for the best. It won't work.

[SochiTag]

Originally Posted by SochiTag

I'm no closer as the document doesn't have info about the new driver?

I think I've got it working again!

[trock]

I think we really need our own Nseries.com website/forum or something and catalog all kinds of different setups and uses with pics, how to's, things to look out for etc

i wonder how many Nseries people are out ther

[terence]

Has anyone else found the following issue with the new FW drivers? if I switch off the N12 while working in Cubase AI4 and then later turn it on again, I loose my Cubase Ready connection (I do get the ASIO reconnect dialog come up, that's not the issue - I can record). Not only that, the transport starts acting goofy, Cubase eventually freezes up, so I end up having to close it and re-open the project.

With the old drivers I could take break from a session, turn off the n12 overnight or whatever, flick it back on the next day, the ready light comes back on, and carry on working. I thought that was pretty cool.

Bottom line seems to be - with the new drivers Cubase can't handle having the board turned on and off.

-Terence

[sirthought]

Originally Posted by trock

I think we really need our own Nseries.com website/forum or something and catalog all kinds of different setups and uses with pics, how to's, things to look out for etc

i wonder how many Nseries people are out ther

What sort of layout/setup would you see for a useful website like this?
I might be up for such a project if others would help maintain the content.
I'm certainly not a recording expert, but I could look into laying out a site.

[soundrage]

Originally Posted by sirthought

What sort of layout/setup would you see for a useful website like this?
I might be up for such a project if others would help maintain the content.
I'm certainly not a recording expert, but I could look into laying out a site.

I started up the Yahoo users group and it has 62 members. George and I have placed some files there but it's just not the same as a website, especially one that would have a forum too and not the email listserver thing like Yahoo.

I'd be happy to help where I could.

[ScottFreeStyle]

Wow I think Ive had one of those Doh moments...

I have been playing with the idea of upgrading to Cubase 5 and today finally decided that I was going to.

I have made all the relevant back ups so I can drop my files into C5 without too much of a problem, and I wiped my macbook, I wanted a fresh install.

Now having read threads on the Cubase net forums, it appears that Cubase 5 does not like OSX at all, so it appears that I may have to stick with AI for the minute.. what a waste of time...!!

I have registered on Cubase.net but have not been sent the actication Email yet, so... do any of you guys here run C5 on OSX... I only bought the mac because I was having problems with the earlier driver issues!! :(

[Lemontree]

Originally Posted by sirthought

What sort of layout/setup would you see for a useful website like this?
I might be up for such a project if others would help maintain the content.
I'm certainly not a recording expert, but I could look into laying out a site.

I check this thread daily just to see if \i can help any fellow users. I'd be more than happy to help out, do what I can with a dedicated N12 user website.

[dylpickl]

Originally Posted by mkok

I now know why it is taking me so long to get my replacement n12. There are none in the country. My n12 went for repair the week after new year and they decided to replace it. Trouble is I still haven't got the replacement. The shop PMT have eventually lent me an interface but I can not belive that Yamaha have no plan if they have to replace a faulty unit. End of March I have been qouted!! It is a good job I don't do this for a living

I need to send my n12 to Yamaha. Most likely for a replacement. Anyone know the current turnaround time to receive a replacement. Hopefully, it's still not taking months. In my opinion, they should be able to turn one around in a week.

[Cinemuso]

Hi - a quick question:
I've run the 64bit firmware on my n8 - so far so good. Works fine on Cubase 5 64bit - doesnt on Cubase 5 32 bit.

Is this permanent? Ie: I can never use this unit in a 32 bit environment? Doesnt matter so much for now - but, well its not very versatile if thats the case.

cheers!

[kire]

I currently have one N12 and I’m about to buy either another N12 or an MR816 X (the N12 would be just a little bit more expensive than the MR816).

After reading and asking questions here I’ve got a pretty good understanding of how two N12s would work together, seems like a quite nice setup (16+ channels OTB mix). The MR816 on the other hand would complement the N12 in a nice way, portability, digital io etc.

One simple question, with an N12 and a MR816, how would I do zero latency monitoring, there’s no other way but to send a mix of the inputs of the MR816 to some inputs on the N12 using cables and take it from there, right?

So now I just need to make up my mind on what to buy, any help is welcome :-)

[mkok]

Originally Posted by dylpickl

I need to send my n12 to Yamaha. Most likely for a replacement. Anyone know the current turnaround time to receive a replacement. Hopefully, it's still not taking months. In my opinion, they should be able to turn one around in a week.

If your in the UK it should not be too bad now as they are due a batch on the 14th April I think. I have actually got a new one back now which is working fine. Someone had one waiting for them but never picked it up. Must be the credit crunch as the price for an N12 in the uk has gone up by a 3rd!!

[Phaidon]

Originally Posted by mkok

Must be the credit crunch as the price for an N12 in the uk has gone up by a 3rd!!

It has to do mostly with the ever shrinking sterling £ !

[Lemontree]

Originally Posted by Cinemuso

Hi - a quick question:
I've run the 64bit firmware on my n8 - so far so good. Works fine on Cubase 5 64bit - doesnt on Cubase 5 32 bit.

Is this permanent? Ie: I can never use this unit in a 32 bit environment? Doesnt matter so much for now - but, well its not very versatile if thats the case.

cheers!

As far as I'm lead to believe the firmware in the 32bit and 64bit tools for N V2 are the same. If you want to run it with 32bit cubase you'll need to instal the 32 bit steinberg extensions

[thesteam]

Hello,
Can anyone direct me to a forum of folks using the n12 with Sonar/Cakewalk?

Thanks,
Douglas

[trock]

I think we should have a website called

www.yamahanseries.com


then split it into an N8 and N12 section

in each section would be links to drivers and manuals, or we could host them if we are allowed

then i would have different setups photographed and catalog'd with step by step instructions and how'to's

anything and everything in how people are using these

then i would attach a phpbb forum to the site

something easy to use etc

hell who knows, if you are good at websites and there are a few thousand members maybe you could do some ad's to help pay for it, or i would charge each person who has a n series say 25 bucks a year maybe? goes to site maint. and allows it to be semi closed to spammers etc?

if i was any good at websites i would have done this by now, but as this product grew as did this blog here i always thought the info should be organized and corelated, maybe with yamaha if it got big enough.

i think this would be a great place for us who have these products int eh years to come

[Cinemuso]

Originally Posted by Lemontree

As far as I'm lead to believe the firmware in the 32bit and 64bit tools for N V2 are the same. If you want to run it with 32bit cubase you'll need to instal the 32 bit steinberg extensions

Ah - cool, thanks I'll give it a go.

[kire]

This is no change in the future direction of the N8/N12, right?

From the N8/N12 FAQ on the new yamahasynth site

Q7: Can two n12 or n8 units be connected to a computer to provide extra input capacity?

A7: The n-series interfaces are designed for one-on-one use with a computer. The connection of multiple units for increased capacity is not supported.

[soundrage]

Originally Posted by thesteam

Hello,
Can anyone direct me to a forum of folks using the n12 with Sonar/Cakewalk?

Thanks,
Douglas

No idea where there is a forum like that.

Few people here use Sonar. I have used the n12 with version 5.

[terence]

Originally Posted by terence

Has anyone else found the following issue with the new FW drivers? if I switch off the N12 while working in Cubase AI4 and then later turn it on again, I loose my Cubase Ready connection (I do get the ASIO reconnect dialog come up, that's not the issue - I can record). Not only that, the transport starts acting goofy, Cubase eventually freezes up, so I end up having to close it and re-open the project.

With the old drivers I could take break from a session, turn off the n12 overnight or whatever, flick it back on the next day, the ready light comes back on, and carry on working. I thought that was pretty cool.

Bottom line seems to be - with the new drivers Cubase can't handle having the board turned on and off.

-Terence

Update: A couple of other anomalies found since I updated the drivers as well as the Cubase AI 4.5.2 update:

1. I got around to doing some mixing the other day and couldn't record from the Stereo bus. I discovered the ST input routing had changed in Cubase to something inappropriate. It was a quick fix but suggests that updating either the latest Cubase AI4 patch or perhaps the FW drivers had changed these settings.

2. I now (since updating the software) have to close and open Cubase AI4 three times to get the remote ready light to come on at the start of a session. If I ping the FW driver the Cubase ready light flashes, so the problem appears to be Cubase (based!).

On the remote control issue (#2) I have tried to figure out how this should be configured, in case anything else got changed since SW updates. There is not much in the Yamaha n12 manual specific to Cubase remote control settings (but please show me if I missed something.). Likewise, on the Steinberg site there is a pdf guide on setting up remote control devices which covers a number of hardware set-ups but omits the n12!

I have read somewhere on this thread, from George I think, that there is a downloadable template (or was it extensions? - please define extensions!) that configures everything automatically - but can't find where to download this. Are we talking about those File>Open n8/12 multi-channel session templates etc here or something else completely? Like a global routing template for Cubase to work with the n series?

I’m rapidly sinking into confusion and need some help! I'm technically not very astute on this hardware porting stuff - I think I have summized that remote surface connections go via a midi port, but that is about it for my knowlege depth.

Thanks to anyone that might shed some light on this. The bottom line is I would like a document that shows me exactly what a properly configured Cubase device setup looks like for the n12, so that I can hopefully troubleshoot these issues.

-Terence

[terence]

I have a notion that re-installing Extensions for Steinberg Daw may provide a solution to the above: I followed the support menus on Yamamhasynth.com Mixers>n8/12>Extensions>. I get "no results found".

Aghh!

[mkok]

I have a strange problem (stop laughing!!) When I record into cubase (4 and 5) via the n12 midi using my ddrum4 to trigger Superior 2 drum sampler after about 20secs I get a huge glitch then it's ok. It's as if a buffer is full. This only happens if there is no audi tracks. If I record the same but already have an audio track recorded then it seems to follow that and no glitches at all. Strange

Got a lot more testing to do using a keyboard instead etc but just wondered if anyone else has come up against this?

[Cinemuso]

Originally Posted by terence

I have a notion that re-installing Extensions for Steinberg Daw may provide a solution to the above: I followed the support menus on Yamamhasynth.com Mixers>n8/12>Extensions>. I get "no results found".

Aghh!

- I had the same arggh moment. The extensions are in the tools v2 (32 and 64 bit). Download the entire zip and they're in the Extensions folder.

[Nicolas]

Hi everybody! (first, sorry for my bad english, I'am french!).
Is it right that the N12 can't work with Dell computer notebook?? I think : YES! because for me The N12 can't work with this computer (Vostro 1710).

And what about the NEW MacbookPro?? especially with the firewire 800?? Is it ok??

Thank you so much!!

Nicolas.

[soundrage]

Originally Posted by Nicolas

Hi everybody! (first, sorry for my bad english, I'am french!).
Is it right that the N12 can't work with Dell computer notebook?? I think : YES! because for me The N12 can't work with this computer (Vostro 1710).

And what about the NEW MacbookPro?? especially with the firewire 800?? Is it ok??

Thank you so much!!

Nicolas.

I remember George not be able to get Dell Notebook's working. I think the Mac is OK, but I'm not a Mac guy so I'm sure a Mac user will chime in here...

[terence]

Originally Posted by Cinemuso

- I had the same arggh moment. The extensions are in the tools v2 (32 and 64 bit). Download the entire zip and they're in the Extensions folder.

Thanks Cinemuso! I was starting to think I was the only one left down here in this dungeon....

-Terence

[Lemontree]

Originally Posted by kire

This is no change in the future direction of the N8/N12, right?

From the N8/N12 FAQ on the new yamahasynth site

Q7: Can two n12 or n8 units be connected to a computer to provide extra input capacity?

A7: The n-series interfaces are designed for one-on-one use with a computer. The connection of multiple units for increased capacity is not supported.

nonsense