Yamaha n Series - Page 53

edding · 15th August 2008, 12:45 PM

keith,
i think it's not a buffer size problem. I've tried all latency possibilities for Asio: 512,256,128, etc.
i've tried original n12 Cd Driver and Welcome to mLAN Central drivers (v1.6.3). no one of this solve my problem

(I get "Cubase ready" led on without problems)

Thanks for reply

Geosync · 15th August 2008, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edding

keith,
i think it's not a buffer size problem. I've tried all latency possibilities for Asio: 512,256,128, etc.
i've tried original n12 Cd Driver and Welcome to mLAN Central drivers (v1.6.3). no one of this solve my problem

(I get "Cubase ready" led on without problems)

Thanks for reply

Use this driver and read your PM

Correct Driver

mkok · 19th August 2008, 11:25 PM

You may have tried this or know about it but have you got a wireless card in your pc? If you have you need to disable it.

RCH · 20th August 2008, 02:55 AM

I've been trying to consolidate all the info from the manuals + this forum regarding installation. The way I understand it is: Install Cubase, (Studio 4 in my case) plus any incremental upgrades since purchase. Then, Tools for N. Now, do I skip the AI driver and only install the Steinberg extensions, since I've already installed Studio 4? Bought the N12/Cubase upgrade late June.

Just want to make sure I'm doing this in the correct order. Installing on a core duo 2.8 GHz iMac .

Thanks!

Geosync · 20th August 2008, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCH

I've been trying to consolidate all the info from the manuals + this forum regarding installation. The way I understand it is: Install Cubase, (Studio 4 in my case) plus any incremental upgrades since purchase. Then, Tools for N. Now, do I skip the AI driver and only install the Steinberg extensions, since I've already installed Studio 4? Bought the N12/Cubase upgrade late June.

Just want to make sure I'm doing this in the correct order. Installing on a core duo 2.8 GHz iMac .

Thanks!

You have done everything correctly as far as Cubase is concerned , but you still need to download the latest AI driver and Install it with the n12 connected but not powered on

the driver allows the n12 to talk to the computer while the Extensions allow Cubase to talk to the n12

slootsky · 28th August 2008, 07:20 AM

hi everyone

how is it possible to use n12 for recording in samplitude?

1. is multichannel recording possible?
2. is multichannel playback from the DAW possible? how many n12 outputs
could be used for that? Or is it only 1 stereo output could be used for playback?

sorry if it has been discussed before in this thread, I've read it all ... found no answer...

thanks

mustream · 28th August 2008, 01:55 PM

Hi all. Well i bought my second N8, and I'm very happy and excited.
Now, one little snag... I hooked up the second N8 to the first and the first is hooked up to the Firewire port on the Mobo.

Now my problem is getting Cubase Studio4 to reconize the Second N8.

What I would like to able to do is send some audio Tracks from Cubase to the First N8 and some to the Second N8. Exactly how do i send tracks to the second N8 cause i can't seem to get Cubase to see the Second Unit.

I checked the M-lan Graphic patchbay(i'm thinking this has to be the place to get it working) but after playing around with the setup, no luck so far.

The both units shows up in the Patchbay, but I don't full understand how to link them up in there.(First time using anything M-Lan)

(What i'm hoping for is to use Both Mixers as one unit) eg. As a 16-ch mixer)

Is there a Video by chance that shows this information??? that's downloadble???

Another thing, I have the First N8 going straight to my KRK V8's. Would the second N8's audio output be able to read through the First N8's output or would i have to physically hook up the second output to another speaker (I hope this question wasn't too confusing)( cause I'm kinda hoping that the 2 mixers would act like one, through One output)

So Any help on this would be greatly appreciated

Thanks

Randall · 28th August 2008, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slootsky

hi everyone

how is it possible to use n12 for recording in samplitude?

1. is multichannel recording possible?
2. is multichannel playback from the DAW possible? how many n12 outputs
could be used for that? Or is it only 1 stereo output could be used for playback?

sorry if it has been discussed before in this thread, I've read it all ... found no answer...

thanks

all your drivers will show up in Samp as they would and will in any editor.. You will only lose some of the "Integrated control" that is unique to a Steinberg product.

you will have control of the transport

this is my understanding anyhow

edding · 28th August 2008, 03:29 PM

After 20 days trying EVERYTHING (up to 15 experiments including all kind of windows patches, configurations, cables, different devices, etc) , i can say:
"Yamaha n12 isn't compatible with nforce 650 sli chipset based motherboard"

Now i have other Motherboard with different chipset and "DBC Error" dissapear using the same devices.

Now, n12 works solid and rock!.. withou any kind of windows patches and registry modifications, even with wireless devices.. even with HEAVY LAN traffic, even with all things supposed to be bad for n12 firewire connection.

If you want TO LOVE your n12: "DON'T USE ANYTHING BASED ON 650 SLI CHIPSET".

Randall · 28th August 2008, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edding

After 20 days trying EVERYTHING (up to 15 experiments including all kind of windows patches, configurations, cables, different devices, etc) , i can say:
"Yamaha n12 isn't compatible with nforce 650 sli chipset based motherboard"

Now i have other Motherboard with different chipset and "DBC Error" dissapear using the same devices.

Now, n12 works solid and rock!.. withou any kind of windows patches and registry modifications, even with wireless devices.. even with HEAVY LAN traffic, even with all things supposed to be bad for n12 firewire connection.

If you want TO LOVE your n12: "DON'T USE ANYTHING BASED ON 650 SLI CHIPSET".

even with wireless device? Please expand on this a little bit

trock · 28th August 2008, 07:05 PM

Guys

Cubase 4.5 update is available!

Cubase 4 :: Steinberg Media Technologies GmbH :: www.steinberg.net

smoke · 28th August 2008, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trock

Guys

Cubase 4.5 update is available!

Cubase 4 :: Steinberg Media Technologies GmbH :: Home :: Steinberg Media Technologies GmbH :: www.steinberg.net

o.0

whose going in 1st?

paulitto · 28th August 2008, 11:25 PM

Hi,

just installed Cubase 4.5.1.

Works fine!

Regards,
Paul

Randall · 28th August 2008, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulitto

Hi,

just installed Cubase 4.5.1.

Works fine!

Regards,
Paul

How could you possibly know so quickly? You mean it plays audio? or you have already used every feature of the program to base this conclusion on?

slootsky · 28th August 2008, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randall

all your drivers will show up in Samp as they would and will in any editor.. You will only lose some of the "Integrated control" that is unique to a Steinberg product.

you will have control of the transport

this is my understanding anyhow

thanks for the reply!

does it mean that it is possible to mix thorough n12 using it's eq, comp, reverb?

soundrage · 29th August 2008, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slootsky

thanks for the reply!

does it mean that it is possible to mix thorough n12 using it's eq, comp, reverb?

Yes, I mainly run Cubase now but have mixed projects in Sonar using n12 reverb, EQ and compressor.

edding · 29th August 2008, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randall

even with wireless device? Please expand on this a little bit

some people tell me (and a few forum info) about "wifi lan devices" can be a problem source of "dbc error" (drops, silences..)

Now i have wifi internet connection during n12 recording (up to 12 tracks at the same time) without any problem.
All my drivers problems arise becouse nforce 650 sli chipset.

paulitto · 29th August 2008, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randall

How could you possibly know so quickly? You mean it plays audio? or you have already used every feature of the program to base this conclusion on?

Well, i installed the update & the new sounds, opened
a big project with lots of tracks, plugs & VI's, worked on
it for a while.......nice!
Actually i am working today already a couple of hours
with it, still no probs.

Thats all i can say for now.

Regards,
Paul

mustream · 29th August 2008, 04:08 PM

Hi. Um I really need some help in this area. Has anyone had a chance to use Two units together? I PM Geroge since last week, but i have gotten a response so far.

So any help from anyone, This is really a urgent matter for me....

Thanks

trock · 29th August 2008, 04:14 PM

there is a post in here somehwere and a pic of a guy who is using 2 together, i also have asked this and apparently it works very well.

i will be getting another N12 in a couple of months

of course the new UAD-2 is out errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

smoke · 29th August 2008, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trock

there is a post in here somehwere and a pic of a guy who is using 2 together, i also have asked this and apparently it works very well.

i will be getting another N12 in a couple of months

of course the new UAD-2 is out errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

I might have to go out and grab the UAD2 today!!!!

Anyone have any problems with the N12 light going off during a session? Sometimes, it'll just shut itself down while playback or auditioning samples and of course, no output after that. I have to restart the connection manager and Cubase.

Maybe I should do that RESET N12 thing?

trock · 29th August 2008, 04:51 PM

Yes do the hard reset thingy, this is what was happening to me and after that it works fine again

ALSO

shut down the N12 BEFORE your PC! that from the great George here, and has been good since!

something about FW transmissions etc?? who knows

i posted the steps somewhere on here about the hard reset of the N12, takes 10 seconds

smoke · 29th August 2008, 05:38 PM

yeah I usually do turn the N12 off first, but then you know sometimes there are those "drunk" sessions, where you finally realize it's 3AM and you're creating a turd and need to crawl onto the sofa and sleep. I'd say 5% of the time, I forget to turn the N12 off 1st.

lazi · 29th August 2008, 06:04 PM

im using 2 n12's together... as well as a 01v96 and xs6. once i figured out that everything is setup using the mlan patchbay i was cool. i also figured i was screwed (not really) because i have a gazillion routing options. havent even looked at my old patchbay since

siriusbliss · 30th August 2008, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slootsky

hi everyone

how is it possible to use n12 for recording in samplitude?

1. is multichannel recording possible?
2. is multichannel playback from the DAW possible? how many n12 outputs
could be used for that? Or is it only 1 stereo output could be used for playback?

sorry if it has been discussed before in this thread, I've read it all ... found no answer...

thanks

It should work because the n12 is similar to my 01V96V2, which handles everthing I can throw at it for multi-channel record/playback as well as automation ((I'm using V10.1).

Greg

mustream · 1st September 2008, 01:18 PM

Hi. I'm currently trying to get to Yamaha N8's to work together. Now i got as far as getting Cubase to see the Inputs on the Second N8 by using the patchbay, but my problem is, I can't seem to activate the outputs on the Second N8 (What I mean is, I'm trying to get Cubase studio 4 to SEE the outputs on the Second N8). Just like i'm able to bring some recorded audio tracks out to the First N8, I want to do the same for the Second N8 to Mix. So basically, what i thought i'll be able to do is use BOTH Mixers like one 16 ch mixer for Mixing....

Just for the sake of clarity, i was able to unlock the second N8's inputs by use of the Graphic Patchbay; by going to the Mlan Cpu Icon and adding on all the Inputs for the second N8. What i noticed is that when I clicked on the inputs icon I was able to see 32 MLan slots. So that's was clear to understand for me.

Now when I clicked on the Outputs section on the same m_lan Cpu icon, it only showed up to 12 outputs from the First N8, and the balance of outputs was greyed out.... Meaning that I couldn't click on them to active the second N8's outputs.

So that's my Problem. I don't understand why in 32 Mlan outputs only the first 12 for the First N8 is activited.

So, that's my problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated...

mustream · 2nd September 2008, 01:53 PM

Anyone know where George is?????

lazi · 2nd September 2008, 05:16 PM

not really sure about that problem. my guess is word clock settings. all 32 of my inputs and outputs show up and connect without any problems.

Geosync · 2nd September 2008, 07:25 PM

Been on vacation riding my Electra Gilde in the mountains and canyons forgot about computers for a while. I have some marketing deadlines to finish and I'll be back hopefully later today but maybe tomorrow...

I hear ya , I'll be back ASAP
In the meantime, make sure you set the Computer as the wordclock master and
connect the cables. best done by clicking the single master in the wordlock section..
maybe that will enable the other outputs from the CPU

soundrage · 2nd September 2008, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geosync

Been on vacation riding my Electra Gilde in the mountains and canyons forgot about computers for a while.

Nothing beats that!

I was gone too out riding my ATV's until it started snowing in the high country of N. Utah.

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20th August 2008, 02:55 AM	#1564
RCH Gear interested Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 11	installation questions for Cubase and N12 I've been trying to consolidate all the info from the manuals + this forum regarding installation. The way I understand it is: Install Cubase, (Studio 4 in my case) plus any incremental upgrades since purchase. Then, Tools for N. Now, do I skip the AI driver and only install the Steinberg extensions, since I've already installed Studio 4? Bought the N12/Cubase upgrade late June. Just want to make sure I'm doing this in the correct order. Installing on a core duo 2.8 GHz iMac . Thanks!

28th August 2008, 01:55 PM	#1567
mustream Gear interested Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 15	Getting 2 N8's to work together.. Hi all. Well i bought my second N8, and I'm very happy and excited. Now, one little snag... I hooked up the second N8 to the first and the first is hooked up to the Firewire port on the Mobo. Now my problem is getting Cubase Studio4 to reconize the Second N8. What I would like to able to do is send some audio Tracks from Cubase to the First N8 and some to the Second N8. Exactly how do i send tracks to the second N8 cause i can't seem to get Cubase to see the Second Unit. I checked the M-lan Graphic patchbay(i'm thinking this has to be the place to get it working) but after playing around with the setup, no luck so far. The both units shows up in the Patchbay, but I don't full understand how to link them up in there.(First time using anything M-Lan) (What i'm hoping for is to use Both Mixers as one unit) eg. As a 16-ch mixer) Is there a Video by chance that shows this information??? that's downloadble??? Another thing, I have the First N8 going straight to my KRK V8's. Would the second N8's audio output be able to read through the First N8's output or would i have to physically hook up the second output to another speaker (I hope this question wasn't too confusing)( cause I'm kinda hoping that the 2 mixers would act like one, through One output) So Any help on this would be greatly appreciated Thanks

28th August 2008, 07:05 PM	#1571
trock Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 663	Guys Cubase 4.5 update is available! Cubase 4 :: Steinberg Media Technologies GmbH :: www.steinberg.net __________________ www.timmallick.com

29th August 2008, 04:08 PM	#1579
mustream Gear interested Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 15	Need a response - Working 2 yamaha N8's together Hi. Um I really need some help in this area. Has anyone had a chance to use Two units together? I PM Geroge since last week, but i have gotten a response so far. So any help from anyone, This is really a urgent matter for me.... Thanks

15th August 2008, 12:45 PM	#1561
edding Gear interested Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 4	keith, i think it's not a buffer size problem. I've tried all latency possibilities for Asio: 512,256,128, etc. i've tried original n12 Cd Driver and Welcome to mLAN Central drivers (v1.6.3). no one of this solve my problem (I get "Cubase ready" led on without problems) Thanks for reply

19th August 2008, 11:25 PM	#1563
mkok Gear interested Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bradford UK Posts: 11	You may have tried this or know about it but have you got a wireless card in your pc? If you have you need to disable it.

28th August 2008, 07:20 AM	#1566
slootsky Gear interested Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 6	hi everyone how is it possible to use n12 for recording in samplitude? 1. is multichannel recording possible? 2. is multichannel playback from the DAW possible? how many n12 outputs could be used for that? Or is it only 1 stereo output could be used for playback? sorry if it has been discussed before in this thread, I've read it all ... found no answer... thanks

28th August 2008, 03:29 PM	#1569
edding Gear interested Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 4	After 20 days trying EVERYTHING (up to 15 experiments including all kind of windows patches, configurations, cables, different devices, etc) , i can say: "Yamaha n12 isn't compatible with nforce 650 sli chipset based motherboard" Now i have other Motherboard with different chipset and "DBC Error" dissapear using the same devices. Now, n12 works solid and rock!.. withou any kind of windows patches and registry modifications, even with wireless devices.. even with HEAVY LAN traffic, even with all things supposed to be bad for n12 firewire connection. If you want TO LOVE your n12: "DON'T USE ANYTHING BASED ON 650 SLI CHIPSET".

28th August 2008, 11:25 PM	#1573
paulitto Gear interested Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 14	Hi, just installed Cubase 4.5.1. Works fine! Regards, Paul

29th August 2008, 04:14 PM	#1580
trock Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 663	there is a post in here somehwere and a pic of a guy who is using 2 together, i also have asked this and apparently it works very well. i will be getting another N12 in a couple of months of course the new UAD-2 is out errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr __________________ www.timmallick.com

29th August 2008, 04:51 PM	#1582
trock Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 663	Yes do the hard reset thingy, this is what was happening to me and after that it works fine again ALSO shut down the N12 BEFORE your PC! that from the great George here, and has been good since! something about FW transmissions etc?? who knows i posted the steps somewhere on here about the hard reset of the N12, takes 10 seconds __________________ www.timmallick.com

29th August 2008, 05:38 PM	#1583
smoke Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 543	yeah I usually do turn the N12 off first, but then you know sometimes there are those "drunk" sessions, where you finally realize it's 3AM and you're creating a turd and need to crawl onto the sofa and sleep. I'd say 5% of the time, I forget to turn the N12 off 1st. Last edited by smoke; 29th August 2008 at 05:54 PM.. Reason: reminder: look at post 1504

29th August 2008, 06:04 PM	#1584
lazi Gear Head Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 69	im using 2 n12's together... as well as a 01v96 and xs6. once i figured out that everything is setup using the mlan patchbay i was cool. i also figured i was screwed (not really) because i have a gazillion routing options. havent even looked at my old patchbay since

1st September 2008, 01:18 PM	#1586
mustream Gear interested Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 15	Need more help with M-lan Hi. I'm currently trying to get to Yamaha N8's to work together. Now i got as far as getting Cubase to see the Inputs on the Second N8 by using the patchbay, but my problem is, I can't seem to activate the outputs on the Second N8 (What I mean is, I'm trying to get Cubase studio 4 to SEE the outputs on the Second N8). Just like i'm able to bring some recorded audio tracks out to the First N8, I want to do the same for the Second N8 to Mix. So basically, what i thought i'll be able to do is use BOTH Mixers like one 16 ch mixer for Mixing.... Just for the sake of clarity, i was able to unlock the second N8's inputs by use of the Graphic Patchbay; by going to the Mlan Cpu Icon and adding on all the Inputs for the second N8. What i noticed is that when I clicked on the inputs icon I was able to see 32 MLan slots. So that's was clear to understand for me. Now when I clicked on the Outputs section on the same m_lan Cpu icon, it only showed up to 12 outputs from the First N8, and the balance of outputs was greyed out.... Meaning that I couldn't click on them to active the second N8's outputs. So that's my Problem. I don't understand why in 32 Mlan outputs only the first 12 for the First N8 is activited. So, that's my problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated...

2nd September 2008, 01:53 PM	#1587
mustream Gear interested Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 15	Anyone know where George is?????

2nd September 2008, 05:16 PM	#1588
lazi Gear Head Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 69	not really sure about that problem. my guess is word clock settings. all 32 of my inputs and outputs show up and connect without any problems.

2nd September 2008, 07:25 PM	#1589
Geosync Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: California Posts: 712	Been on vacation riding my Electra Gilde in the mountains and canyons forgot about computers for a while. I have some marketing deadlines to finish and I'll be back hopefully later today but maybe tomorrow... I hear ya , I'll be back ASAP In the meantime, make sure you set the Computer as the wordclock master and connect the cables. best done by clicking the single master in the wordlock section.. maybe that will enable the other outputs from the CPU __________________ George Hamilton Yamaha Corporation of America