Yamaha n Series

[keith.roche]

Never found a latency issue with the n12 and my MBP.

[Geosync]

Originally Posted by wakestyle

another quicky:

is anyone using N12 with Duende ??

I have a mini, and am concerded about using two firewire devices simultaneously. Latency issues?

Been using a m-audio 410 with no luck...

thanks

Acelera over at 01Xray.com uses one

[keith.roche]

Would like to add another observation.

I connected the Control Room Headphone output to the MSP7 and it sounds great !
I mean, no hiss or whatever !

[tuna]

Originally Posted by soundrage

Not sure, but does Cubase support 64 bit?

I run cubase 4 32bit in vista 64

I have a lynx2 card at the moment, was going to get two n12 but still waiting for the 64 driver.
the n12 looks really suit my needs.

[wakestyle]

hey!

got a question about using external fx.

What would be the best way to add a Eventide H3000 to the N12?

Aux out to the unit, then input channels back to N12.

or

route the aux back to the N12, and use the insert plugs?

I plan to mainly use the FX via the Cubase external fxs. Some ppl say than just hooking up a fx box using in's and out's is NOT as effective as using a insert option.??..?? Can someone inform me please!

Any other (better) methods?

tia

WS

[Geosync]

Originally Posted by wakestyle

hey!

got a question about using external fx.

What would be the best way to add a Eventide H3000 to the N12?

Aux out to the unit, then input channels back to N12.

or

route the aux back to the N12, and use the insert plugs?

I plan to mainly use the FX via the Cubase external fxs. Some ppl say than just hooking up a fx box using in's and out's is NOT as effective as using a insert option.??..?? Can someone inform me please!

Any other (better) methods?

tia

WS

Insert is for just one channel (mono) Aux send and return to channel 11/12 can be used by more than one channel at a time and would be stereo. Both methods are appropriate depending on what you want to do.

[RCH]

Well, just about done setting things up in my little studio. N12, iMac Intel G5 and HS50Ms finally have a place to live. The last thing to buy (yeah, right) is an external drive. Western Digital, "G" and LaCie on the short list. 500 GB, Firewire 400/800. An Apple Store techie suggested a slightly different approach: Instead of saving my Cubase projects directly to the external drive, he recommended saving them to my iMac home folder and using TimeMachine to back-up the internal drive to the external drive. Since I will be using the iMac only for music production, it seems like a good scenario.

Any problems with this?

I have another question about hooking the N12 to an APC UPS. Should I connect to the surge protection only, or is it better to have the UPS protection as well?

Thanks!

[keith.roche]

Imagine that you bought that External HDD and hooked it up to iMac.
You choose that as your main HDD for recording directly to it.
When using Logic Pro, if you select a track and click " Record " , It'll take about 8 seconds for the Recording to start. :D Till then the computer seems stuck.

That might probably be the reason with the Apple Techie guy saying like that.
But its not like that on the Cubase. It starts recording immediately.
But I actually prefer the way the techie told. I record 'em directly to Internal HDD and later backup to external.

And I have no idea about the UPS thing.

[keith.roche]

And I was using a Verbatim USB 2.0 500 GB 7000rpm HDD

[juscallmemickey]

Hey, I got my N12 a couple weeks ago and it's awesome! I noticed though that the audio would randomly stop working, even though it is still playing on my computer. My solution is to exit the program that's playing audio, change the required CPU in the driver setup to a different level, and then change it back.

Any way to solve this?

[soundrage]

Originally Posted by juscallmemickey

Hey, I got my N12 a couple weeks ago and it's awesome! I noticed though that the audio would randomly stop working, even though it is still playing on my computer. My solution is to exit the program that's playing audio, change the required CPU in the driver setup to a different level, and then change it back.

Any way to solve this?

I've seen this too but only when running Cubase. My problem (and I posted screen shots at the n12 Yahoo group) is Cubase takes up a lot of CPU and If I start running some plugs it will start doing things like this. I don't run hardly any plugs so its not much of a problem. And my PC is a P4 2.2 Ghz Dell desktop and it might be the problem. Others here have not had any problems with CPU and Cubase so I suspect my Dell.

Post your system specs

[juscallmemickey]

System Specs:

Windows XP Pro
Intel Q9450
Abit ip-35 pro motherboard
4 GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 9600GT
2 x 320 GB hard drives (not in raid)

[Geosync]

Originally Posted by juscallmemickey

System Specs:

Windows XP Pro
Intel Q9450
Abit ip-35 pro motherboard
4 GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 9600GT
2 x 320 GB hard drives (not in raid)

Make sure that you turn off wireless networking and disable 1394 networking
Also make sure you have installed the microsoft 1394 patch. Seems that many XP SP2 machines have their 1394 set to S100 100MHz instead of S400 400MHz. The patch will properly reset firewire to it's full bandwidth..

Hope this helps..

[keith.roche]

This thing is just beautiful !
I made a template that I can work with 16 MIDI tracks of XS and the n12 Multi Track.
Finished making a complete song and it sounds fabulous.
Runs so beautiful on my Mac. Did not have a problem during the project at least once !
Buffer size was 256 samples.
Will try with 128 in the next project.

I dont think it'd ever be a problem.

BTW, that DEMO project with the AI CD is just so good !
Learned lots of new things like, adding group folders. Volume Automation !
I never knew Cubase AI had this ! LOL
I was missing it from Logic Pro and the softwares I used earlier.
Totally into Cubase now !
Awesome software it is when you run it on an awesome computer.

[keith.roche]

Hey Geosync ,

I record the Drums into a MIDI track assigned to XS.
I want to resample it into multiple Audio tracks like Kik, Snare, Hi Hats.
Is there a way to sort them out ? Or will I have to sort out the MIDI data into different MIDI tracks and then resample them one by one ?

[smoke]

I think I'm gonna try a different Sweet Spot setup.

Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions?

[soundrage]

Originally Posted by smoke

I think I'm gonna try a different Sweet Spot setup.

Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions?

I've tried most of them but am using the Chuck Ainlay ones right now. I just keep coming back to this setting/

[keith.roche]

Actually I havent tried this sweet spot compression thing.
Would someone tell me what would be the preset , best for male vocals.

I didnt update or download that Sweet Spot Data Manager.

[mustream]

I have to say. I've been using the N8 for about 2-3 weeks now and I am just continuously amazed at the audio quality in this thing. Coming from a lynx TWO, to me it blows that out of the water. Anyway, I've already ordered another N8 to work with the current one that I have..

Now my question is, (and i don't know if this was covered already)(sorry if it was), but exactly how do i use the 2 n8's together. I mean i have the current one firewired from the unit itself to the PCI firewire card, so how do i set up the second one? (again I'm new to using firewire audio devices so sorry for such a noob question)..

Do I hook up the second N8 to the first one or to the second pci firewire slot?


Any help would be greatly appreciated....

[edding]

I need help!
I have a n12 since 1 week ago. I'm very happy with this device using it like a mixer board, but i can't use it like a audio interface.
I always have clicks, drop outs and silences...
I have tried everything and google everywhere but i don't know how to go on.
My configuration is:
XP SP2 and 650i SLI MotherBoard.
I'm using Nuendo but this is irrelevant becouse i get drops and silences even with Winamp!!!
The driver turn red a lot of time saying: "DBC Error"

I have tried the following:
-Use Belkin PCI Firewire recommended in mlancentral instead of using my Mobo integrated device.
-Update nvida nforce drivers to the last version
-Use nuendo projects in SATA HDD instead of use IDE HDD
-Check if there are a shared IRQ with Firewire card
-Change original cable. (i test three differents).

I need to know if i have a defective n12 becouse i only have 30 days to back to store.
I've used a lot this PC setup using Motu Ultralite without any kind of problems.

Please help me!, i don't know what to do.

[keith.roche]

Have you tried changing the latency paramenters in Cubase/Nuendo.
Mine works great with 256 samples latency. Will check out 128 samples soon.

And n12 is not a plug and play device.
Did you install the tools for n ?
mLan manager ?
AI patch for Cubase/Nuendo ? AI = Advanced Integration.

[keith.roche]

Once all the drivers are set up properly, open up nuendo.
the moment nuendo is on, n12 must light up the CUBASE READY LED.
If it doesnt light up, you havent got your installations right !

[edding]

keith,
i think it's not a buffer size problem. I've tried all latency possibilities for Asio: 512,256,128, etc.
i've tried original n12 Cd Driver and Welcome to mLAN Central drivers (v1.6.3). no one of this solve my problem

(I get "Cubase ready" led on without problems)

Thanks for reply

[Geosync]

Originally Posted by edding

keith,
i think it's not a buffer size problem. I've tried all latency possibilities for Asio: 512,256,128, etc.
i've tried original n12 Cd Driver and Welcome to mLAN Central drivers (v1.6.3). no one of this solve my problem

(I get "Cubase ready" led on without problems)

Thanks for reply

Use this driver and read your PM

Correct Driver

[mkok]

You may have tried this or know about it but have you got a wireless card in your pc? If you have you need to disable it.

[RCH]

I've been trying to consolidate all the info from the manuals + this forum regarding installation. The way I understand it is: Install Cubase, (Studio 4 in my case) plus any incremental upgrades since purchase. Then, Tools for N. Now, do I skip the AI driver and only install the Steinberg extensions, since I've already installed Studio 4? Bought the N12/Cubase upgrade late June.

Just want to make sure I'm doing this in the correct order. Installing on a core duo 2.8 GHz iMac .

Thanks!

[Geosync]

Originally Posted by RCH

I've been trying to consolidate all the info from the manuals + this forum regarding installation. The way I understand it is: Install Cubase, (Studio 4 in my case) plus any incremental upgrades since purchase. Then, Tools for N. Now, do I skip the AI driver and only install the Steinberg extensions, since I've already installed Studio 4? Bought the N12/Cubase upgrade late June.

Just want to make sure I'm doing this in the correct order. Installing on a core duo 2.8 GHz iMac .

Thanks!

You have done everything correctly as far as Cubase is concerned , but you still need to download the latest AI driver and Install it with the n12 connected but not powered on

the driver allows the n12 to talk to the computer while the Extensions allow Cubase to talk to the n12

[slootsky]

hi everyone

how is it possible to use n12 for recording in samplitude?



1. is multichannel recording possible?
2. is multichannel playback from the DAW possible? how many n12 outputs
could be used for that? Or is it only 1 stereo output could be used for playback?

sorry if it has been discussed before in this thread, I've read it all ... found no answer...

thanks

[mustream]

Hi all. Well i bought my second N8, and I'm very happy and excited.
Now, one little snag... I hooked up the second N8 to the first and the first is hooked up to the Firewire port on the Mobo.

Now my problem is getting Cubase Studio4 to reconize the Second N8.

What I would like to able to do is send some audio Tracks from Cubase to the First N8 and some to the Second N8. Exactly how do i send tracks to the second N8 cause i can't seem to get Cubase to see the Second Unit.

I checked the M-lan Graphic patchbay(i'm thinking this has to be the place to get it working) but after playing around with the setup, no luck so far.

The both units shows up in the Patchbay, but I don't full understand how to link them up in there.(First time using anything M-Lan)

(What i'm hoping for is to use Both Mixers as one unit) eg. As a 16-ch mixer)

Is there a Video by chance that shows this information??? that's downloadble???

Another thing, I have the First N8 going straight to my KRK V8's. Would the second N8's audio output be able to read through the First N8's output or would i have to physically hook up the second output to another speaker (I hope this question wasn't too confusing)( cause I'm kinda hoping that the 2 mixers would act like one, through One output)

So Any help on this would be greatly appreciated

Thanks

[edding]

After 20 days trying EVERYTHING (up to 15 experiments including all kind of windows patches, configurations, cables, different devices, etc) , i can say:
"Yamaha n12 isn't compatible with nforce 650 sli chipset based motherboard"

Now i have other Motherboard with different chipset and "DBC Error" dissapear using the same devices.

Now, n12 works solid and rock!.. withou any kind of windows patches and registry modifications, even with wireless devices.. even with HEAVY LAN traffic, even with all things supposed to be bad for n12 firewire connection.

If you want TO LOVE your n12: "DON'T USE ANYTHING BASED ON 650 SLI CHIPSET".