Yamaha n Series - Page 45

soundrage · 29th June 2008, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gearmonster

I have never ever seen a piece of Yamaha gear other than old NS-10's in large studio's or for that matter small to mid size recording facilities.

Why is that?

gearmonster,

What kind of gear do you have? Do you like the n12?

sirthought · 29th June 2008, 10:42 PM

Impressive list. I'm certain it only scratches the surface. Didn't see any n-series on that list. I guess it doesn't fit the target for big-time endorsers.

Interesting to see the number of folks listing 02R96 in their gear list. That's something I've always wanted to try, but could never afford.

I've seen quite a few live venues using Yamaha boards, but only a couple recording studios. I've only been in about 15 studios in my life. There must be hundreds, I'd imagine, or why would you continue to make the things?

If it's good enough for Alan Parsons....

Geosync · 29th June 2008, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirthought

Impressive list. I'm certain it only scratches the surface. Didn't see any n-series on that list. I guess it doesn't fit the target for big-time endorsers.

Interesting to see the number of folks listing 02R96 in their gear list. That's something I've always wanted to try, but could never afford.

I've seen quite a few live venues using Yamaha boards, but only a couple recording studios. I've only been in about 15 studios in my life. There must be hundreds, I'd imagine, or why would you continue to make the things?

If it's good enough for Alan Parsons....

How about THIS

georgyj · 30th June 2008, 12:47 AM

Is there any possibility to switch the N12 Aux to post fade?

Geosync · 30th June 2008, 02:02 AM

Is there any possibility to switch the N12 Aux to post fade?

Sorry no

A channel strip has 2 digital and 2 analog paths

ANALOG
ST Bus (Post Fader)
AUX Bus (Pre Fader)

DIGITAL
DIRECT OUT ( to Computer via 1394)
REC Bus ( to Computer via 1394)

There is also the REVERB send but it will be routed back wet to the AUX, REC or ST Bus

markmann · 30th June 2008, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundrage

Good question,

Are any of you running Vista?

My daughter has an HP with Vista, maybe I'll steal it for a day.

Soundrage,
Let me know if you happen to test it... I guess no one is using Vista yet. Doesn't surprise me with all the negative press that Vista recieves but I think this will be an issue as time goes on.

Geosync · 30th June 2008, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markmann

Soundrage,
Let me know if you happen to test it... I guess no one is using Vista yet. Doesn't surprise me with all the negative press that Vista recieves but I think this will be an issue as time goes on.

I asked our support guys about Vista. They say about 2 out of 5 PC calls are Vista users.
As long as they have at least 2Gig of RAM, they seem to be running fine.

ricfoxx · 1st July 2008, 02:43 PM

If anybody is interested in buying my N12 I am going to be listing it in classifieds. Its in mint condition. Absolutely a great sounding piece of gear but Im moving to Pro Tools (my daw of choice.)

PM me if interested!

markmann · 1st July 2008, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geosync

I asked our support guys about Vista. They say about 2 out of 5 PC calls are Vista users.
As long as they have at least 2Gig of RAM, they seem to be running fine.

Thanks, George, that's good to know because IMO it'll be worth a shot buying a new PC with Vista since they are plentiful and many are relatively inexpensive. I'll assume that the 2 of 5 calls are general info calls and not show-stoppers.

I've been sitting on the fence for a while procrastinating but I'm at the point where I need to take the plunge. I've already decided on the N12, just need to mate a laptop to it. I've been looking at the custom made-for-audio PC models but if there are off-the-shelf models that are running with no issues I don't see why I shouldn't try one. I realize that, at least from what I've read, the N12 requires the TI chipset for firewire but I think the plug-in firewire card is a workaround for that, right?

Any thoughts are welcome,
Mark

Geosync · 1st July 2008, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markmann

Thanks, George, that's good to know because IMO it'll be worth a shot buying a new PC with Vista since they are plentiful and many are relatively inexpensive. I'll assume that the 2 of 5 calls are general info calls and not show-stoppers.

I've been sitting on the fence for a while procrastinating but I'm at the point where I need to take the plunge. I've already decided on the N12, just need to mate a laptop to it. I've been looking at the custom made-for-audio PC models but if there are off-the-shelf models that are running with no issues I don't see why I shouldn't try one. I realize that, at least from what I've read, the N12 requires the TI chipset for firewire but I think the plug-in firewire card is a workaround for that, right?

Any thoughts are welcome,
Mark

Just remember that you may need a 1394 card in addition. Many of the Mother Board versions are not compatible .... and..... before you ask which one?....... too many variations to know.

I'm fond of the HP laptops but you may want to call support 714 522-9000

Geosync · 1st July 2008, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricfoxx

If anybody is interested in buying my N12 I am going to be listing it in classifieds. Its in mint condition. Absolutely a great sounding piece of gear but Im moving to Pro Tools (my daw of choice.)

PM me if interested!

If you like the sound of the n12's preamps, you can get the MR816 from Steinberg.
It can work stand alone and you can sent the adat out to pro tools

FYI

sirthought · 1st July 2008, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markmann

Thanks, George, that's good to know because IMO it'll be worth a shot buying a new PC with Vista since they are plentiful and many are relatively inexpensive. I'll assume that the 2 of 5 calls are general info calls and not show-stoppers.

I've been sitting on the fence for a while procrastinating but I'm at the point where I need to take the plunge. I've already decided on the N12, just need to mate a laptop to it. I've been looking at the custom made-for-audio PC models but if there are off-the-shelf models that are running with no issues I don't see why I shouldn't try one. I realize that, at least from what I've read, the N12 requires the TI chipset for firewire but I think the plug-in firewire card is a workaround for that, right?

Any thoughts are welcome,
Mark

Mark,
Personally, I'd avoid the off-the-shelf laptops for audio use. Not saying they won't work, but the custom made models are really set up for the task and you're less likely to run into headaches.

If you do go that route, I'd go for HP (like George said). But make sure you have the right firewire card. That's a biggie for these interfaces. It's better to call in your order to see if they can give you the right card.

I'd recommend ADK Pro Audio. If you look at loaded audio machines (versus the cheapest laptop just to get in the door) you'll be spending the same or less than the big brands. They build the PCs and laptops to your specifications. No needing to choose one package versus another. You can also buy Mac there, but the nice thing is they go into the system and set everything up for you (software, hardware drivers, etc.) so it's ready and tested when you get it. And I think they offer lifetime customer service on most everything. Plus, they'll sell you XP cuz they know it works on all audio software now. Even Intel Corp won't give their employees Vista.

Good luck!

markmann · 1st July 2008, 06:24 PM

Thanks guys, your advice is much appreciated. I'll let you know how it goes.

ricfoxx · 1st July 2008, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geosync

If you like the sound of the n12's preamps, you can get the MR816 from Steinberg.
It can work stand alone and you can sent the adat out to pro tools

FYI

Is that thing shipping? I do love the sound of that thing...

soundrage · 2nd July 2008, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricfoxx

Is that thing shipping? I do love the sound of that thing...

I think it's suppose to ship this fall.

Geosync · 2nd July 2008, 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundrage

I think it's suppose to ship this fall.

I'm hearing the end of August.

protoculture · 2nd July 2008, 09:43 AM

If I purchase an N12 in the UK, will the power adapter work in North America?

Geosync · 2nd July 2008, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by protoculture

If I purchase an N12 in the UK, will the power adapter work in North America?

I do not think so. The North American models use the PA-30 power adapter.
You should ask Yamaha UK.

soundrage · 2nd July 2008, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geosync

I'm hearing the end of August.

Yeah, it looks like it's coming along just fine...
Steinberg MR816 X And Steinberg MR816 CSX: Two Models One Up Each Other At Summer NAMM 2008 | Gearwire

protoculture · 2nd July 2008, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geosync

I do not think so. The North American models use the PA-30 power adapter.
You should ask Yamaha UK.

What I mean is for some models the converter is built into the unit. Like on my old FF800. All I needed was a UK power cord and the north american model worked.... I think the voltages should be marked on the N12.

Can any N12 owners read out the voltage ranges from thier models?

protoculture · 2nd July 2008, 06:31 PM

Got my N12 on route, should get here tomorrow. =)

Should I install the drivers etc from the CD install disks OR download the newest installtion drivers?

( I'm on a mac if that matters )

smoke · 2nd July 2008, 06:39 PM

I didn't even use the CD. Go straight to the site (unless you need AI), and DL all those files.

protoculture · 2nd July 2008, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smoke

I didn't even use the CD. Go straight to the site (unless you need AI), and DL all those files.

thanks I got all the ones from here... is that all I need?

n12/n8 - Download - Yamahasynth.com

soundrage · 2nd July 2008, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geosync

FYI,

I just received my July issue of Recording Magazine and there on page 18 is a nice review of the n12 .

I just picked up that issue.

They love it. But no surprise there.

The guy really likes the Rev X reverb which I've been saying from the minute I heard it it's awesome. All in all it's a good review.

Anyone looking at the n series to buy there are now two really good reviews of the n12. Sound on Sound and Recording magazines.

soundrage · 2nd July 2008, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by protoculture

thanks I got all the ones from here... is that all I need?

n12/n8 - Download - Yamahasynth.com

Make sure you grab the Extensions for Steinberg. You should be good to go.

Purpletao · 2nd July 2008, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geosync

FYI,

I just received my July issue of Recording Magazine and there on page 18 is a nice review of the n12 .

George, would it be possible for you (or Yamaha marketing dept) to put that review online, or at least make a pdf scan and put a link to it here? Recording Magazine is not available over here and I'm curious to read..

Thanks!
Per

soundrage · 3rd July 2008, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purpletao

George, would it be possible for you (or Yamaha marketing dept) to put that review online, or at least make a pdf scan and put a link to it here? Recording Magazine is not available over here and I'm curious to read..

Thanks!
Per

Permission would have to be granted by Recording magazine. Maybe George has the connection?

Geosync · 3rd July 2008, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundrage

Permission would have to be granted by Recording magazine. Maybe George has the connection?

It is not usually acceptable to reprint a review.
I will ask their editor

ricfoxx · 3rd July 2008, 03:15 AM

How does Audio Warp compare to Elastic Time in Pro Tools? I would really like to stay with the N12!

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29th June 2008, 10:42 PM	#1322
sirthought Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 155	Impressive list. I'm certain it only scratches the surface. Didn't see any n-series on that list. I guess it doesn't fit the target for big-time endorsers. Interesting to see the number of folks listing 02R96 in their gear list. That's something I've always wanted to try, but could never afford. I've seen quite a few live venues using Yamaha boards, but only a couple recording studios. I've only been in about 15 studios in my life. There must be hundreds, I'd imagine, or why would you continue to make the things? If it's good enough for Alan Parsons.... Last edited by sirthought; 29th June 2008 at 10:42 PM.. Reason: spelling

30th June 2008, 12:47 AM	#1324
georgyj Gear interested Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 7	Aux post fade?? Is there any possibility to switch the N12 Aux to post fade?

30th June 2008, 02:02 AM	#1325
Geosync Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: California Posts: 712	Is there any possibility to switch the N12 Aux to post fade? Sorry no A channel strip has 2 digital and 2 analog paths ANALOG ST Bus (Post Fader) AUX Bus (Pre Fader) DIGITAL DIRECT OUT ( to Computer via 1394) REC Bus ( to Computer via 1394) There is also the REVERB send but it will be routed back wet to the AUX, REC or ST Bus __________________ George Hamilton Yamaha Corporation of America

1st July 2008, 02:43 PM	#1328
ricfoxx Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Jacksonville, Fl Posts: 320	Anybody interested? If anybody is interested in buying my N12 I am going to be listing it in classifieds. Its in mint condition. Absolutely a great sounding piece of gear but Im moving to Pro Tools (my daw of choice.) PM me if interested! __________________ Roc n SoL Studios www.myspace.com/rocinsol

1st July 2008, 06:24 PM	#1333
markmann Gear interested Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 20	Thanks guys, your advice is much appreciated. I'll let you know how it goes.

2nd July 2008, 09:43 AM	#1337
protoculture Gear nut Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 75	Ac Adapter If I purchase an N12 in the UK, will the power adapter work in North America?

2nd July 2008, 06:31 PM	#1341
protoculture Gear nut Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 75	Got my N12 on route, should get here tomorrow. =) Should I install the drivers etc from the CD install disks OR download the newest installtion drivers? ( I'm on a mac if that matters )

2nd July 2008, 06:39 PM	#1342
smoke Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 543	I didn't even use the CD. Go straight to the site (unless you need AI), and DL all those files.

3rd July 2008, 03:15 AM	#1349
ricfoxx Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Jacksonville, Fl Posts: 320	George or anybody... How does Audio Warp compare to Elastic Time in Pro Tools? I would really like to stay with the N12! __________________ Roc n SoL Studios www.myspace.com/rocinsol

3rd July 2008, 08:49 AM	#1350
protoculture Gear nut Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 75