Chris Cornell -- "Carry On" LP

[Resonant Alien]

Originally Posted by beyond

So..he does not want to make GOOD music???

I imagine HE thinks it is good.

[liquidorange]

i always thought his vibrato sounded like ronnie james dio. maybe he could remake one of his songs

[liquidorange]

i always thought his vibrato sounded like ronnie james dio. i cant help it but every time he belts a high note im waiting for him to say:" were the last in line" maybe he could remake one of his songs

[Clayphish]

Originally Posted by Resonant Alien

The thing is....no matter what you think of the album....CC is in a place in his career that most artists would give their left nad to be......he can make whatever music he feels like making and not give 2 shits what anyone else thinks about it. What a great great place to be

To be honest, his new music lacks the motivation that it takes to inspire others. If its because he has a family now, ok, but it shows how meaningless his music has become. As a musician, I would hate to be in that position and would surely keep my left nad to be unknown while developing music which challenges me.

Furthermore, I can think of a lot of musicians who have found the type of success CC has had and still find the time to really pump out great material that actually appreciates over time. Right now, I could careless about how comfortable CC is at the moment. I will say, however, that I wish him the best and hope that he gets back on course, because he once was great!

[Resonant Alien]

Originally Posted by Clayphish

To be honest, his new music lacks the motivation that it takes to inspire others. If its because he has a family now, ok, but it shows how meaningless his music has become. As a musician, I would hate to be in that position and would surely keep my left nad to be unknown while developing music which challenges me.

Furthermore, I can think of a lot of musicians who have found the type of success CC has had and still find the time to really pump out great material that actually appreciates over time. Right now, I could careless about how comfortable CC is at the moment. I will say, however, that I wish him the best and hope that he gets back on course, because he once was great!

My point was that he appears to be doing what he wants to do and I'm sure he doesn't give a crap if anyone, including GS posters, thinks his music is challenging or good or not. The freedom to make whatever music you want is a great thing. I think sometimes people miss the point of music at its very basic level. In its purist form, music is not something an artist uses to impress other people with how challenging it is, and it is not something an artist uses to make a lot of money. Music is something an artist does because they want to and to express themselves. If the artist is the only person on the planet who likes the music they are creating, it still has meaning to them. Music is a very subjective thing and trying to apply simple concepts like "good" or "bad" doesn't make a lot of sense. Do I like the album? No. But that was not my point..

[Power Supply]

Great artist, bad album.

[DeeDrive]

I'm about the biggest CC fan, soundgarden fan, tolerated some Audioslave for the vocals, but Carry On sucks too much, I can't listen to it.

Honestly I think a huge problem this time around is this was the first time he's made an album playing with less than great musicians. I mean, his whole band was just some Musician's Institute guys he picked up. Even on Euphoria Morning, he had alain johannes on guitar and josh freese on drums. Having some better players to feed off of for Carry On probably could have helped the record.

But the songwriting is so lame, maybe the album was doomed from the start. Maybe he needs to go back to drinking and get divorced again and start being a depressed, brilliant musician again. Or get some of the SG guys together and try writing some good songs with them.

And Billie Jean is awful....so awful.

[AllAboutTone]

Proves that the chemistry with Soundgarden works, i have all of SG Cds, none of CC, they do not do anything for me.

[AllAboutTone]

Proves that the chemistry with Soundgarden works, i have all of SG Cds, none of CC, they do not do anything for me. Jesus Christ Pose

[echojulca]

Well it seems like most of you really don`t know that most musicians progress and won`t be yelling all the time and sometimes they decide to mellow down or go in a different way as they progress in life. I think his new album is great I love hearing new stuff cause I never know what is going to sound like or be like. I hate albums or artists who repeat themselves.
I think CC`s new cd has some great songs and it`s different than his first one or what he did with soundgarden or audioslave which are two of my favorite bands but we can`t pretend he was going to do that again with his new solo album.
I have to say I really really dig this albums from the sound of it and great songs it has. It gives me the same feeling I get when I listen to the Cardigans "Long Gone Before Daylight"
Arms Around Your Love is the Jam!

[DeeDrive]

Originally Posted by echojulca

Well it seems like most of you really don`t know that most musicians progress and won`t be yelling all the time and sometimes they decide to mellow down or go in a different way as they progress in life.

Um, that's not it. At least not for me. Euphoria Morning is one of my favorite albums, and it's way more mellow than any SG album, or Chris's new one for that matter. The problem with this one is lame songwriting, boring arrangements, and cheasy lyrics and melodies. At least that's MY problem with it. I could care less how "mellow" it is or isn't.

[theron d]

Completely agree with you, the live version of Billie Jean recorded in Sweden with just voice/gtr is really good. The studio version...very bland in comparison.....

Originally Posted by HighKing

I think this album sucks...I agree with all of you: it is bland musically.

I do, however, have to say that while the *album* version of Billie Jean is weak, there are live versions, just him and a guitar that are absolutely amazing.

When I first heard a boot w/ that him + acoustic doing that song, I was blown away...it's genius.

But instead of just going w/ something very simple like that for the album, he went w/ what we ended up w/...which is pretty lame.

[HighKing]

Originally Posted by theron d

Completely agree with you, the live version of Billie Jean recorded in Sweden with just voice/gtr is really good. The studio version...very bland in comparison.....

Yes, absolutely. The live version is pure genius, I think. It's a totally new take on the original. I was blown away and was expecting so much from this album...but was totally let down.

What *is* Kim Thayil up to nowadays? I know Cameron plays with all sorts of people...

[chadly]

Originally Posted by DeeDrive

Um, that's not it. At least not for me. Euphoria Morning is one of my favorite albums, and it's way more mellow than any SG album, or Chris's new one for that matter. The problem with this one is lame songwriting, boring arrangements, and cheasy lyrics and melodies. At least that's MY problem with it. I could care less how "mellow" it is or isn't.

I remember hearing most of Euphoria as demos- I liked all of the songs better with just Cornell and his acoustic.

[Ironklad Audio]

funny this topic is on here right now...

i rocked badmotorfinger for the 1st time in ages yesterday, and it reminded me that...

a)soundgarden ****ing ruled

b)everything cornell's done since has been mediocre, at best

[Tom Hakala]

It's cool to watch his new interviews. He is just so happy and not so frigging depressed as he used to be. It's a pleasure. BUT what it comes to his recent album... just bring back depression, drugs and all the other goodies. Bring back the good music.

I saw him live last week. He was great. CC and the band did this, probably improvised jam. It sounded great. Reminded me of the psychedelic side of Soundgarden. So maybe there's still some hope even without all the goodies

[AllAboutTone]

THANK GOD I STILL HAVE SOUNDGARDEN ALBUMS

[Bang]

Am I the only one who thinks Eupohria Morning is one of the best albums of all time? The songs are so diverse, melodic, musical, catchy, deep... Unbelievable album, I have a copy for each car.

[Tom Hakala]

Originally Posted by Bang

Am I the only one who thinks Eupohria Morning is one of the best albums of all time? The songs are so diverse, melodic, musical, catchy, deep... Unbelievable album, I have a copy for each car.

I hear you! There's times when I think everything from Louder Than Love to Euphoria Morning is the best stuff ever. It's unbelievable how many good albums Chris Cornell has actually made. And never has repeated himself musically... ok maybe with Audioslave..

[Blast9]

Originally Posted by Bang

Am I the only one who thinks Eupohria Morning is one of the best albums of all time? The songs are so diverse, melodic, musical, catchy, deep... Unbelievable album, I have a copy for each car.

great album. I always found the sound to be a bit brittle though.

But.. I love that album --- "Disappearing one" is imense --- Follow my way, Pillow of your bones: top notch!

Psychedelic and romantic

[BLueROom]

I'm a huge Chris Cornell fan, but the new album, song-wise, production-wise and vocal-wise is terrible. I was so let down by this as it was a far cry from Euphoria Morning.

BRING SOUNDGARDEN BACK CHRIS!

[Mark Adams]

I'm a huge Chris Cornell fan, but the new album, song-wise, production-wise and vocal-wise is terrible. I was so let down by this as it was a far cry from Euphoria Mor
BRING SOUNDGARDEN BACK CHRIS!

I pretty much agree . Though I don't think we'll get Black Hole Sun again.

dfegad

[fuzzface777]

This forum sure likes pissin on Cornell. Don't know why. What if the late great, Layne Staley were still around, but with some damage to his voice as well, I am sure everyone here would be pissin on him, too. Pretty funny.

Was Ozzy a better a rock singer? He voice is totally shot now, but no one pisses on that. Do you think if Bon Scott were around, he would sound the same? Or how about pissin on Brian Johnson's weathered voice. DLR nevr sound great live, lets piss on that. This is Rock ppl, not freaken Broadway........

Cornell and Staley are/were the best Rock n Roll singers out of the 90's.
And no one except for Kurt Cobain sung with more heart since then.

Nobody pisses on Bruce Dickinson, eventhought, he too, isn't as good as he was, but that is because he could still out sing any of you critics easily.

To the dude pissin on Audioslave: wake up.

[Tom Hakala]

i think we are only pissing on his last solo effort. people who has seen him live on this tour say he is better than ever. And the same guys who are dfegadCarry On are also saying how frigging great his Soundgarden and Euphoria Morning stuff is.

What about Bruce Dickinson. Are they even comparable?

[vixapphire]

Originally Posted by DeeDrive

Um, that's not it. At least not for me. Euphoria Morning is one of my favorite albums, and it's way more mellow than any SG album, or Chris's new one for that matter. The problem with this one is lame songwriting, boring arrangements, and cheasy lyrics and melodies. At least that's MY problem with it. I could care less how "mellow" it is or isn't.

i agree with this post completely.

[vixapphire]

Originally Posted by Blast9

great album. I always found the sound to be a bit brittle though.

you're hearing the sound of Eleven's Yamaha 02r all over that album, which really "downsizes" the overall sound, unfortunately. They did really well, productionwise, though; had they been on even an 02r96 or later/greater digital board, much less some creamy sounding analog rig, the record would really blow minds.

[Blast9]

Originally Posted by vixapphire

you're hearing the sound of Eleven's Yamaha 02r all over that album, which really "downsizes" the overall sound, unfortunately. They did really well, productionwise, though; had they been on even an 02r96 or later/greater digital board, much less some creamy sounding analog rig, the record would really blow minds.

Ah OK.

I seem to remember reading that album was one of the first entirely ITB Pro-Tools productions.

Do you know anything about this?

I really like the spooky/surfy guitar sounds/playin style and vocal FX on this album.

Pretty sure Alain Johannes was using Amp Farm for most of the tones

[Mertmo]

Interesting, all the info about how "euphoria morning" was recorded. That explains the sound of that record a LOT to me. I think that is a really good record, mainly because CC doesn't scream on it at all, just beautiful singing. A little overproduced, but a cool vibe on that one.

Man, starting with Audioslave's second record, I just can't listen to him sing anymore. It's painful how strained his voice sounds and how much tone is missing compared to pre-Audioslave. When he goes for the high screeching notes, I just wince in discomfort. I can't even entertain the idea of listening to his new one, it just makes me cringe when he sings now. If he would just settle in to the aging of his voice and STOP ****ING SCREAMING, then I would be back on board the CC fan bus. Hell, at this point I would prefer totally mellow records from him than to ever hear him try and sing like he used to again...

I agree with everything from "louder than love" thru "euphoria morning" being totally amazing work.

[vixapphire]

Originally Posted by Mertmo2

Interesting, all the info about how "euphoria morning" was recorded. That explains the sound of that record a LOT to me. I think that is a really good record, mainly because CC doesn't scream on it at all, just beautiful singing. A little overproduced, but a cool vibe on that one.

Man, starting with Audioslave's second record, I just can't listen to him sing anymore. It's painful how strained his voice sounds and how much tone is missing compared to pre-Audioslave. When he goes for the high screeching notes, I just wince in discomfort. I can't even entertain the idea of listening to his new one, it just makes me cringe when he sings now. If he would just settle in to the aging of his voice and STOP ****ING SCREAMING, then I would be back on board the CC fan bus. Hell, at this point I would prefer totally mellow records from him than to ever hear him try and sing like he used to again...

I agree with everything from "louder than love" thru "euphoria morning" being totally amazing work.

if you ever got into the band Eleven, EM wouldn't seem so much "overproduced", inasmuch as it's pretty much an Eleven album featuring the songs and singing of Cornell. Their albums have a similar tinge to them; if anything, they're a bit more cro-magnon, having much to do with a combination of insanely overdriven guitars and insanely overdriven Hammond organ... If you want a real treat, look for Eleven's eponymous debut or the "Thunk" album in a used cd store. Great stuff for people into well-made progressive rock that actually rocks.