can someone give me a quick rundown on protools and drums/editing/ creating loops

heybulldog · 30th April 2007, 07:41 PM

I am still struggling. I got protools about a month ago. I am missing the process here big time. Here is what I want to know how to do.

I want to record a drummer, using 10 tracks. I want to be able to take the drum take which is about 95% tight with the click, to 99 or 100% tight and solid.

I also use a click track inside protools, I do multiple takes to get as close as possible but I want to be able to clean this stuff up and make it like the pros do. I imagine it involves using some beat detective, tab to transients, something along those lines.

The session guy I am working with is fantastic, but I want to make the drums tighter with the grid, solid as possible.

Second issue that I am trying to figure out is how do you take a recording like a percussion piece, tambourine, shaker, drum beat, sound effect etc. and make it into a perfectly timed piece that you can loop and sync with other pieces.

I love producers like timbaland, will iam, jayz, etc. that take killer little beats and sounds and loop them. I know they use stuff like the akai mpc units as well as protools, but I only have protools and want to figure this stuff out.

I have Protools LE, just got an 003 so keep that in mind.

recall · 30th April 2007, 07:54 PM

http://womb.mixerman.net/showthread.php?t=1491

some free vids by Kenny Gioia taking you through the whole "rigid" beat detective thing.

To sound like timbaland and the others try augementing your live drums with some samples.

Benmrx · 30th April 2007, 08:04 PM

Yep. Check all those videos that Kenny did. They'll get you in the ballpark.

heybulldog · 30th April 2007, 08:15 PM

wow guys thats a cool start for sure. I am just starting to watch them now. Thanks for the tip.

How about creating loops out of percussion or drums tracks is there a video for that?

heybulldog · 3rd May 2007, 07:07 PM

ok got the basics of the beat detective down. I wish there was more I could learn but the video is just a quickie 3 minute thing. Anymore info out there.

also how can I do similiar stuff using the tab to transients method?

lastly how is the best way to make loops using protools, either bringing in one hits or recording a drummer and then looping a section????

xj32 · 4th May 2007, 12:36 AM

Not Pro Tools specific, but applicable to any DAW really as the processes are the same, Recording Magazine ran a whole issue a few months back (Nov, Dec or Jan I think) on loop creation, cutting, tips and tricks. Try and get a back issue if you can, should help alot.

Paul

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30th April 2007, 07:41 PM	#1
heybulldog Gear Head Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 44	can someone give me a quick rundown on protools and drums/editing/ creating loops I am still struggling. I got protools about a month ago. I am missing the process here big time. Here is what I want to know how to do. I want to record a drummer, using 10 tracks. I want to be able to take the drum take which is about 95% tight with the click, to 99 or 100% tight and solid. I also use a click track inside protools, I do multiple takes to get as close as possible but I want to be able to clean this stuff up and make it like the pros do. I imagine it involves using some beat detective, tab to transients, something along those lines. The session guy I am working with is fantastic, but I want to make the drums tighter with the grid, solid as possible. Second issue that I am trying to figure out is how do you take a recording like a percussion piece, tambourine, shaker, drum beat, sound effect etc. and make it into a perfectly timed piece that you can loop and sync with other pieces. I love producers like timbaland, will iam, jayz, etc. that take killer little beats and sounds and loop them. I know they use stuff like the akai mpc units as well as protools, but I only have protools and want to figure this stuff out. I have Protools LE, just got an 003 so keep that in mind.

30th April 2007, 08:04 PM	#3
Benmrx Lives for gear Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,469	Yep. Check all those videos that Kenny did. They'll get you in the ballpark. __________________ http://myspace.com/mysteriousredx www.mysteriousredx.com

4th May 2007, 12:36 AM	#6
xj32 Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Racine, WI Posts: 510	Not Pro Tools specific, but applicable to any DAW really as the processes are the same, Recording Magazine ran a whole issue a few months back (Nov, Dec or Jan I think) on loop creation, cutting, tips and tricks. Try and get a back issue if you can, should help alot. Paul __________________ "...learning it is far different from getting a good sound out of it" Mike Caffrey

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30th April 2007, 07:54 PM	#2
recall Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: west wales Posts: 782	http://womb.mixerman.net/showthread.php?t=1491 some free vids by Kenny Gioia taking you through the whole "rigid" beat detective thing. To sound like timbaland and the others try augementing your live drums with some samples.

30th April 2007, 08:15 PM	#4
heybulldog Gear Head Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 44	wow guys thats a cool start for sure. I am just starting to watch them now. Thanks for the tip. How about creating loops out of percussion or drums tracks is there a video for that?

3rd May 2007, 07:07 PM	#5
heybulldog Gear Head Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 44	ok got the basics of the beat detective down. I wish there was more I could learn but the video is just a quickie 3 minute thing. Anymore info out there. also how can I do similiar stuff using the tab to transients method? lastly how is the best way to make loops using protools, either bringing in one hits or recording a drummer and then looping a section????