can someone give me a quick rundown on protools and drums/editing/ creating loops

heybulldog · 30th April 2007

I am still struggling. I got protools about a month ago. I am missing the process here big time. Here is what I want to know how to do.

I want to record a drummer, using 10 tracks. I want to be able to take the drum take which is about 95% tight with the click, to 99 or 100% tight and solid.

I also use a click track inside protools, I do multiple takes to get as close as possible but I want to be able to clean this stuff up and make it like the pros do. I imagine it involves using some beat detective, tab to transients, something along those lines.

The session guy I am working with is fantastic, but I want to make the drums tighter with the grid, solid as possible.

Second issue that I am trying to figure out is how do you take a recording like a percussion piece, tambourine, shaker, drum beat, sound effect etc. and make it into a perfectly timed piece that you can loop and sync with other pieces.

I love producers like timbaland, will iam, jayz, etc. that take killer little beats and sounds and loop them. I know they use stuff like the akai mpc units as well as protools, but I only have protools and want to figure this stuff out.

I have Protools LE, just got an 003 so keep that in mind.

recall · 30th April 2007

http://womb.mixerman.net/showthread.php?t=1491

some free vids by Kenny Gioia taking you through the whole "rigid" beat detective thing.

To sound like timbaland and the others try augementing your live drums with some samples.

Benmrx · 30th April 2007

Yep. Check all those videos that Kenny did. They'll get you in the ballpark.

heybulldog · 30th April 2007

wow guys thats a cool start for sure. I am just starting to watch them now. Thanks for the tip.

How about creating loops out of percussion or drums tracks is there a video for that?

heybulldog · 3rd May 2007

ok got the basics of the beat detective down. I wish there was more I could learn but the video is just a quickie 3 minute thing. Anymore info out there.

also how can I do similiar stuff using the tab to transients method?

lastly how is the best way to make loops using protools, either bringing in one hits or recording a drummer and then looping a section????

xj32 · 4th May 2007

Not Pro Tools specific, but applicable to any DAW really as the processes are the same, Recording Magazine ran a whole issue a few months back (Nov, Dec or Jan I think) on loop creation, cutting, tips and tricks. Try and get a back issue if you can, should help alot.

Paul

30th April 2007	#1
heybulldog Gear Head Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 44 Thread Starter	can someone give me a quick rundown on protools and drums/editing/ creating loops I am still struggling. I got protools about a month ago. I am missing the process here big time. Here is what I want to know how to do. I want to record a drummer, using 10 tracks. I want to be able to take the drum take which is about 95% tight with the click, to 99 or 100% tight and solid. I also use a click track inside protools, I do multiple takes to get as close as possible but I want to be able to clean this stuff up and make it like the pros do. I imagine it involves using some beat detective, tab to transients, something along those lines. The session guy I am working with is fantastic, but I want to make the drums tighter with the grid, solid as possible. Second issue that I am trying to figure out is how do you take a recording like a percussion piece, tambourine, shaker, drum beat, sound effect etc. and make it into a perfectly timed piece that you can loop and sync with other pieces. I love producers like timbaland, will iam, jayz, etc. that take killer little beats and sounds and loop them. I know they use stuff like the akai mpc units as well as protools, but I only have protools and want to figure this stuff out. I have Protools LE, just got an 003 so keep that in mind.

30th April 2007	#3
Benmrx Lives for gear Joined: May 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 4,300	Yep. Check all those videos that Kenny did. They'll get you in the ballpark. __________________ www.mysteriousredx.com "Sorry man I played guitar instead of going to school." -- James Lugo

4th May 2007	#6
xj32 Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2005 Location: Racine, WI Posts: 1,210	Not Pro Tools specific, but applicable to any DAW really as the processes are the same, Recording Magazine ran a whole issue a few months back (Nov, Dec or Jan I think) on loop creation, cutting, tips and tricks. Try and get a back issue if you can, should help alot. Paul __________________ "...learning it is far different from getting a good sound out of it" Mike Caffrey "The gear doesn't really care what kind of music you pump through it, be it rap or classical " thethrillfactor "Maybe it doesn't sound much like the original, but given that only 0.00000000000000137% of the population would know and only 0.00000041% of those would care, I'm not too worried about it." Dean Roddey

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30th April 2007	#2
recall Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2006 Location: west wales Posts: 1,756	http://womb.mixerman.net/showthread.php?t=1491 some free vids by Kenny Gioia taking you through the whole "rigid" beat detective thing. To sound like timbaland and the others try augementing your live drums with some samples.

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heybulldog Gear Head Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 44 Thread Starter	ok got the basics of the beat detective down. I wish there was more I could learn but the video is just a quickie 3 minute thing. Anymore info out there. also how can I do similiar stuff using the tab to transients method? lastly how is the best way to make loops using protools, either bringing in one hits or recording a drummer and then looping a section????