Gear on Electric Ladyland voodoo child (Hendrix)

[84K]

On Voodoo Child (Slight Return) Hendrix is playing a Fender amp. Most people assume it was a Marshall.

*EDIT* I know Kramer used Beyer M160 mics on the guitar cabs.

(hu-hmmm watch the M160s on ebay skyrocket this week)

[arthurchino]

http://www.amazon.com/Classic-Albums...7864523&sr=8-9

that's pretty interesting... I think there's some info in one of the hendrix books... quite probably setting the record straight.

Also worth a trip to the Experience Music Project if you're ever in Seattle. They have a console from Electric Lady.

[van Overhalen]

Originally Posted by miqer

Has anyone read this book: Hendrix: Setting the Record Straight by John McDermott and Eddie Kramer

Any technical stuff in there?

Nah, no technical info, mostly management related stuff, contracts, gigs, almost no studio insights beside Mitch Mitchell doin some girl in the other studio room or behind the desk or whatever...

[miqer]

Originally Posted by arthurchino

Amazon.com: Classic Albums - The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Electric Ladyland: DVD: Mitch Mitchell (II),Stevie Winwood,Jimi Hendrix,Noel Redding,Roger Pomphrey

that's pretty interesting... I think there's some info in one of the hendrix books... quite probably setting the record straight.

Also worth a trip to the Experience Music Project if you're ever in Seattle. They have a console from Electric Lady.

I have this dvd... it's ok.

If ever in Seattle... Yeah... well it's a long way... perhaps mountain lions can take me there...

M.

[max cooper]

Mike Finnigan is great on E.L.

[Blast9]

Yeah --- would love to know too.

The bass coming outta the guitar amps on the Voodoo Chile bluse jam is huge.

Great headphone listening. The room sounds pretty huge.

Its amazing how crisp Mitch's drums are... Wonder how many bounces they had to do?

[kenevill]

It's rumored that the Neve 8068 that resides at <a href="http://www.pachydermstudio.com/">pachyderm studios</a> was used on electric ladyland.

pachyderm has been home to several nirvana recordings, the appleseed cast , explosions in the sky , the paper chase, they might be giants, hum, alkaline tio etc etc. it also seems like a bit of a steve albini and john congleton favourite, though albini does all his work in his own studio now i believe

[Steamy Williams]

Originally Posted by kenevill

It's rumored that the Neve 8068 that resides at <a href="http://www.pachydermstudio.com/">pachyderm studios</a> was used on electric ladyland.

I am pretty sure that Neve didn't start production of the 8068 until several years after Hendrix died.

[kenevill]

well that would make it a little hard then wouldn't it.

"The studio features an acclaimed live room sound and an array of vintage, analog, and state-of-the-art digital gear. The control room is equipped with stereo monitoring, utilizing Genelec 1030A speakers and a Neve 8068 console - the same console thought to have been used in Jimi Hendrix's Electric Ladyland Studio."

that's from the Pachyderm site though, I would assume a big studio like that would have checked those kind of facts

oh btw, what the hell is -->. looks pretty stupid to me

[Jim Kerr]

It says it was from Electric Ladyland. It doesn't say it belonged to Hendrix. In fact I don't think Hendrix actually ever recorded in Electric Ladyland. It wasn't done yet. So that Neve most likely was from EL.

Used "In" Electric Lady and used "On" Electric lady are very different!

[kenevill]

Touche. Nice marketing hype though

[Jamz]

The album Electric Ladyland was recorded at The Record Plant.

[PhatStax Drums]

Originally Posted by Blast9

Its amazing how crisp Mitch's drums are... Wonder how many bounces they had to do?

On the long Voodoo Chile jam with Stevie Winwood and where Mitch has that amazing drum solo....it's all live, isn't it? (In the studio.) So there wouldn't be any overdubs/bounces involved at all.

Just like on the relatively few Beatles records where bounces weren't used, the drums sound crisper of course (I think Baby You're a Rich Man (Olympic studios I think off the top of my head, a rare exception to Abbey Road), the drums made it through as a first-generation track. And of course a lot of the early stuff, as well, which was laid down on 1" 4-track tape so very very nice sounding (more track width than 2" 24-track)

Yeah, a large room with a good amount of nice room mic sound

[Jules]

Put me out of my misery please! Thats a kazoo Hendrix is doubling up the chorus motif guitar part with on "Crosstown traffic" .. right?

[Jim Kerr]

Originally Posted by Jules

Put me out of my misery please! Thats a kazoo Hendrix is doubling up the chorus motif guitar part with on "Crosstown traffic" .. right?

Ha!!


That part in Crosstown? Well, what I heard and it came from a person that was there is that it was totally a............(I must be missing some keys on this damm lapto&!) It was a ...............&*

It is a......





















































;^)

[Jamz]

I read...
The Record Plant had a 12 twelve track Scully at that time which Mr. Kramer supposedly did not like that much.
"Little Miss Strange" Hendrix ran his elrctric guitar solo direct with a wah wah over multiple acoustic guitars.
"Rainy Day, Dream Away..." Hendrix used a blond 30 watt Fender Showman.
"Voodoo Chile" Hendrix sang live while playing guitar through a bassman head and mic'd with a Beyer M160.

[Jules]

[ronzie]

They were studio hopping for that record (as others). The first studio I worked in was Mayfair in NYC and "Burning of the midnight lamp" was done there. The Ampex 8trk 1" was still there when I lucked into a gig. Gary Kellgren cut the tracks as he was on "staff" at Mayfair and at the same time he was in charge of the build at Electriclady.

Put a shout out to Hutch @ Manley. He'll most likely be able to give the details on at the very least, the early, early Electriclady studios.

P.S. Kellgren was instrumental in creating the studio environment we know today (and I don't mean protool suites) in the U.S. and his contributions should be lauded.

Ron Allaire, Skyline

[Jim Kerr]

I have a Marshall 1982 (model#) 4x12 that was "original backline" from Electric Lady. I was 16 when I bought it. I actually had forgotten that it was from EL. When I was asked at a gig from an old friend about the "4x12 from electric lady" It was like a bell went off in my brain. From that point on until I sourced the speaker date codes I was frantic. All I knew was that it was from EL and it was circa 67-75. Its from 74 if I remember correctly. I actually stripped the tolex off and re-grilled it before being reminded about its history. Looks great though. It was tan colored orginally.

My apologies for stealing the thread for a sec.

[dbbubba]

Wouldn't that stuff have been recorded on the Datamix console?

I know that they used a Datamix at some point.
I have have read stuff regarding this console written by Eddie Kramer.

[eligit]

number one contributor to the sound of the guitar on the jam (besides jimi): tuning down a WHOLE step. it is the only track on the album where he does this and it totally changes the sound of the guitar.

FWIW it does have a clean fendery sound as well. a reasonably cranked fender with a fuzz pedal for the solo at the end.

[Recycled_Brains]

Originally Posted by Jules

Put me out of my misery please! Thats a kazoo Hendrix is doubling up the chorus motif guitar part with on "Crosstown traffic" .. right?

not a kazoo, but a fine-tooth plastic comb and tissue paper. read that in a book somewhere.

i know there's some guitars tracked through a leslie on that record. one of the greatest records ever made. tech. stuff doesn't matter. it's Hendrix.... enough said.

-ryan

[DBArnold]

I remember reading a while back about Kramer's mic selection
on Hendrix amp was a SM57, Beyer M160, and a U67. Killer!

[Silvertone]

Originally Posted by Carbon Leaf

I remember reading a while back about Kramer's mic selection
on Hendrix amp was a SM57, Beyer M160, and a U67. Killer!

Eddie showed me his micing technique for Hendrix a couple of times when I worked with him. He always like to combine a Shure SM57, Beyer M160 and a Sennheiser 421 on a single cone (the best sounding one to his ear), centered with all 3 mic's just about touching. Although lately Eddie says he's using a Royer 121 in place of the M160.

Yes, Hendrix recorded at Electric Lady but not very much as he passed 6 months after they were done with it. The console was a Datamix.

3 Datamix consoles were built and two reside at a private studio in NJ (the producer who owns these consoles neighbor was the guy who built them, that's how Joel ended up with two of them, tweaked to the max btw. He also has the Judds old Sphere console that I keep trying to get from him. He has the first prototype Pultec ever made along with about 12 "production" model ones. He also owns a lot of the gear out of RCA studios as he use to be the tech there as well. So when they closed he bought an awful lot of great gear for very little money.

Eddie also said that Hendrix could work longer then anyone else he knew, Eddie would pass out on the couch from working so much and when he'd wake up Jimi would still be sitting at the console working away. And that he rarely did any drugs at the studio, it was all about the music, partying was for later.

Just what I was told by Kramer.

[Jamz]

Originally Posted by Silvertone

Yes, Hendrix recorded at Electric Lady...

But not the album Electric Ladyland which the poster is inquiring about. I only reiterate because sometimes there is a misconception regarding the two entities.

[Silvertone]

Originally Posted by Jamz

But not the album Electric Ladyland which the poster is inquiring about. I only reiterate because sometimes there is a misconception regarding the two entities.

You are correct.

If you saw the "quote" I was replying to it was the one about mic technique, I really just wanted to inform the poster as to what Eddie told me. Same with the Datamix console info. Sorry to go off topic.

[TAVD]

I've read somewhere that the reason for the purchase of the Datamix consoles for EL was because one was used previously in another NYC studio. So, did The Record Plant have one as well?

[Stitch333]

Gear on Electric Ladyland voodoo child (Hendrix)?

acid....lots and lots of acid

[Blast9]

^ LOL

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Originally Posted by eligit

number one contributor to the sound of the guitar on the jam (besides jimi): tuning down a WHOLE step. it is the only track on the album where he does this and it totally changes the sound of the guitar.

FWIW it does have a clean fendery sound as well. a reasonably cranked fender with a fuzz pedal for the solo at the end.

Yes, you're right --- whole step down = deep, deep tone, plus the Fendery character is very noticeable.