ENTERTAINMENT CONNECTION Internship Program "Recording School"--LEGIT??!

Ambria · 18th April 2007, 05:02 AM

Hi, I was looking around at my options for getting my foot in the door for recording.

I found this website called "Entertainment Connection" or "Recording Connection" or "Music Connection" (Music Connection: Recording Engineer School -- Learn Recording Studio Technique), which claims to be a program that gets you into contact for interviews with studios in your area. They claim they will get you an internship (if you are a psychologically sound, hardworking and fairly intelligent person etc., of course) and give you a cirriculum of sorts (which is not outlined on the website). The price is around $6,000, give or take a little. Has anybody heard of this or used this program? If all it does is get me a job in a fairly legit recording studio where I would actually learn something hands-on, I think it could be a good idea. But is it worth the money? Is it something I can do on my own, or would the "cirriculum" and the school's "connections" be helpful to my learning process?

Any advice would be appreciated!

PoorGlory · 18th April 2007, 12:05 PM

Sounds like the equivalent of setting $6,000 on fire and pissing on the ashes.

That much money could buy you a bunch of decent gear, then you'd have all the time in the world to learn on your own. I'd say that's preferable to paying out the ass for an internship.

So if I'm understanding this correctly, local studios that are strapped for cash and hard up for work sign up to be part of this. They take "students" from this program and teach them recording, so as to churn out even more audio "engineers" to continue to flood an already retardedly saturated market? Busy studios wouldn't have time for this in the first place.

Theres nothing this program can teach you that you can't learn on your own or through a traditional internship. Don't waste your money.

Mount Cyanide · 18th April 2007, 12:11 PM

Bring 6k worth of blow to my studio.

LivintheDream · 21st April 2007, 03:34 PM

I'll give you my take as an insider (I just finished up the program a couple months ago at a nashville studio) Two things will determine wether you will have a good or bad experience with the program

1) The Studio
2) You

Find a good studio. Meet with them. Ask questions. You may have to meet with more than one studio. Visit studios and schedule appointments until you feel good about one. I interned at a smaller studio and it wound up being benifitial because I wasn't just one intern in a sea of interns. You just have to use good judgment here

And the other factor, of course, is you. Are you motivated? Are you hungry? Are you willing to devote time and engergy to learning the craft? If the answer to all of these questions is yes, then you'll be fine. The internship is what you make of it. Recording Connection provides a book you go through and answer questions and take tests and such. But you can feasibly get through the whole book and not really get any meaningful experience. So how do you make the most of it? Get up out of your seat. Ask questions. Be willing to learn. Be willing to listen. Be polite. Be respectful. Nothing to do? Then sit there and read all the equipment manuals cover to cover. Offer to help if you see something that needs to be done. But above all, get up out of your seat. You have to remember, you'll be starting out with a lot more ground to make up for as opposed to someone with an audio school background. But you can do it. Like I said, it's all about picking a good studio that won't shuffle you through and discard you, and being motivated. Good luck to you.

ScumBum · 21st April 2007, 07:00 PM

Don't do it . Take the $6000 and buy portable Pro gear so you can record bands where ever they are . Buy every book you can on recording and mixing . Hang out on Gearsluts everyday and you'll learn fast .

I did a program like that & I learned more from the internet , gearslut , & books than I did from the program . Unless you live in LA or New York I wouldn't do it .

Steffmo · 21st April 2007, 10:35 PM

Back about 15 years ago I took a few students from them. They would never call uless they had a specific student in mind, so whoever it was was already fairly committed to the idea.

At that point it is up to the student. They used Modern Recording Techniques as the text, and had a sreiesof prigrammed tests that yoiiu had to give the student and forward to them. But the real bottom line was that it was an internship. In my mind a little better than an internship because I could spend a few yours one on one one with each kid, because they were paying me to do so,

Aside from that, the basic rule of any internship applies....you get out what you put in.

I would buy a copy of Modern Recording Techniques and hit the phones. Someone will let you in if you have the right combination of desire and talent.

Sigma · 21st April 2007, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ambria

Hi, I was looking around at my options for getting my foot in the door for recording.

I found this website called "Entertainment Connection" or "Recording Connection" or "Music Connection" (Music Connection: Recording Engineer School -- Learn Recording Studio Technique), which claims to be a program that gets you into contact for interviews with studios in your area. They claim they will get you an internship (if you are a psychologically sound, hardworking and fairly intelligent person etc., of course) and give you a cirriculum of sorts (which is not outlined on the website). The price is around $6,000, give or take a little. Has anybody heard of this or used this program? If all it does is get me a job in a fairly legit recording studio where I would actually learn something hands-on, I think it could be a good idea. But is it worth the money? Is it something I can do on my own, or would the "cirriculum" and the school's "connections" be helpful to my learning process?

Any advice would be appreciated!

where are you located?

Sigma · 22nd April 2007, 12:19 AM

the intern gets to evaluate the teacher i belive [not sure what online/intern project we did] ..if the fit isn't right they can bail..personally I passed it thru our studio once ..and then did one myself after i left...i kinda threw hubers book out and taught the guy Pt's and such..he wanted to be an recording mixer and they were teaching him op amps and tape recorder alignment

i agree though ..6k for it is way too much we charge that for 1 on 1 classes and 18 hr a day 7 day a week availability by email or phone to help with homework

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Ambria Gear interested Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1	ENTERTAINMENT CONNECTION Internship Program "Recording School"--LEGIT??! Hi, I was looking around at my options for getting my foot in the door for recording. I found this website called "Entertainment Connection" or "Recording Connection" or "Music Connection" (Music Connection: Recording Engineer School -- Learn Recording Studio Technique), which claims to be a program that gets you into contact for interviews with studios in your area. They claim they will get you an internship (if you are a psychologically sound, hardworking and fairly intelligent person etc., of course) and give you a cirriculum of sorts (which is not outlined on the website). The price is around $6,000, give or take a little. Has anybody heard of this or used this program? If all it does is get me a job in a fairly legit recording studio where I would actually learn something hands-on, I think it could be a good idea. But is it worth the money? Is it something I can do on my own, or would the "cirriculum" and the school's "connections" be helpful to my learning process? Any advice would be appreciated!

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18th April 2007, 12:05 PM	#2
PoorGlory Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,167	Sounds like the equivalent of setting $6,000 on fire and pissing on the ashes. That much money could buy you a bunch of decent gear, then you'd have all the time in the world to learn on your own. I'd say that's preferable to paying out the ass for an internship. So if I'm understanding this correctly, local studios that are strapped for cash and hard up for work sign up to be part of this. They take "students" from this program and teach them recording, so as to churn out even more audio "engineers" to continue to flood an already retardedly saturated market? Busy studios wouldn't have time for this in the first place. Theres nothing this program can teach you that you can't learn on your own or through a traditional internship. Don't waste your money.

21st April 2007, 03:34 PM	#4
LivintheDream Gear Head Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Nashvegas Posts: 45	I'll give you my take as an insider (I just finished up the program a couple months ago at a nashville studio) Two things will determine wether you will have a good or bad experience with the program 1) The Studio 2) You Find a good studio. Meet with them. Ask questions. You may have to meet with more than one studio. Visit studios and schedule appointments until you feel good about one. I interned at a smaller studio and it wound up being benifitial because I wasn't just one intern in a sea of interns. You just have to use good judgment here And the other factor, of course, is you. Are you motivated? Are you hungry? Are you willing to devote time and engergy to learning the craft? If the answer to all of these questions is yes, then you'll be fine. The internship is what you make of it. Recording Connection provides a book you go through and answer questions and take tests and such. But you can feasibly get through the whole book and not really get any meaningful experience. So how do you make the most of it? Get up out of your seat. Ask questions. Be willing to learn. Be willing to listen. Be polite. Be respectful. Nothing to do? Then sit there and read all the equipment manuals cover to cover. Offer to help if you see something that needs to be done. But above all, get up out of your seat. You have to remember, you'll be starting out with a lot more ground to make up for as opposed to someone with an audio school background. But you can do it. Like I said, it's all about picking a good studio that won't shuffle you through and discard you, and being motivated. Good luck to you.

21st April 2007, 07:00 PM	#5
ScumBum Gear addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Fransisco , BayArea Posts: 319	Don't do it . Take the $6000 and buy portable Pro gear so you can record bands where ever they are . Buy every book you can on recording and mixing . Hang out on Gearsluts everyday and you'll learn fast . I did a program like that & I learned more from the internet , gearslut , & books than I did from the program . Unless you live in LA or New York I wouldn't do it .

21st April 2007, 10:35 PM	#6
Steffmo Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: West Haven, CT Posts: 981	Back about 15 years ago I took a few students from them. They would never call uless they had a specific student in mind, so whoever it was was already fairly committed to the idea. At that point it is up to the student. They used Modern Recording Techniques as the text, and had a sreiesof prigrammed tests that yoiiu had to give the student and forward to them. But the real bottom line was that it was an internship. In my mind a little better than an internship because I could spend a few yours one on one one with each kid, because they were paying me to do so, Aside from that, the basic rule of any internship applies....you get out what you put in. I would buy a copy of Modern Recording Techniques and hit the phones. Someone will let you in if you have the right combination of desire and talent.