Kings of leon / Ethan johns

Jack P · 4th April 2007, 06:35 PM

Whew just got through listening to this new record by the kings of leon produced by ethan johns & Angelo Petraglia at blackbird & sunset sound.

What an amazing record !

The songs, playing, sound and mastering is the best i've heard in years - reverb heaven..

Did anyone here work on the engineering of this record ?

vancalot · 4th April 2007, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack P

Whew just got through listening to this new record by the kings of leon produced by ethan johns at blackbird & sunset sound.

What an amazing record !

The songs, playing, sound and mastering is the best i've heard in years - reverb heaven..

Did anyone here work on the engineering of this record ?

While I didn't work on it our senior assistant, Lowell Reynolds did... he's on a bunch of cool stuff this year, Neil Young's "Heart of Gold" 5.1 Theatrical Release Soundtrack, KOL, The White Stripes new record and an upcoming Beck record...all done in Studio D at Blackbird.
The reverb is the Studio D Chamber, btw.
All Natural...
v

yeloocproducer · 4th April 2007, 09:57 PM

I'm taking a guess... but I bet Jacquire King worked on that record... he did the first one with Ethan and he lives in Nashville... haven't asked him tho.

vancalot · 4th April 2007, 10:16 PM

Ethan, Angelo and Lowell... That was the team.
v

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Originally Posted by yeloocproducer

I'm taking a guess... but I bet Jacquire King worked on that record... he did the first one with Ethan and he lives in Nashville... haven't asked him tho.

James HE · 4th April 2007, 10:22 PM

I heard a song from this on the radio today and immediatly knew I had to get this record, not knowing anything about it until I heard the song. Defintly have to get this now.

darkwater · 4th April 2007, 10:41 PM

I have also been wearing it out in the car. Good stuff.

numrologst · 4th April 2007, 11:00 PM

bump for some more info... ANd props to the album... Kings of Leon rock hard

mcollinge · 5th April 2007, 12:34 AM

I'm just listening to this record for the first time right now. My god, it sounds great!

Actually, I read an interview with Isaac Brock and he suggested that the album was recorded with almost no overdubs, including vocals. It sounds like it... like a REAL rock and roll record...

redddog · 5th April 2007, 01:17 AM

Ethan Johns is a frickin genious. Plain and simple. If I had anyone to pick from, he'd be the guy.

mcollinge · 5th April 2007, 01:35 AM

God, I just love the use of reverb on this album. I would love to know more about the chamber, etc. Amazing drum sounds, too.

Josht · 13th April 2007, 05:14 PM

Man, I love Ethan Johns so much, I love the sound of every record he's worked on (at least that I've heard). Its funny, I was just admiring how cool Blackbird is last night, and then I picked up the new Kings record to review for a radio station I DJ for and saw that it was recorded there (and at Sunset). Interesting that the record was done at the D room, I always thought Ethan Johns was way into Neves, I would have predicted the A room.

blackfish · 13th April 2007, 05:55 PM

mmmmmm, gated reverb
hp'd slap back on bass.
on call is such a cool song. love that guitar tone! comes outta right field large and loud! kudos to the production team and band!

C/G · 13th April 2007, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by redddog

Ethan Johns is a frickin genious. Plain and simple. If I had anyone to pick from, he'd be the guy.

No doubt.

This is the first King's of Leon album I have heard and I absolutely love it. It really kicks ass.

This is one of the better sounding albums I have purchased in a long time. It actually has some dynamics.

I hope their older records are as good as the new one.

bcgood · 13th April 2007, 07:22 PM

I just got through listening to my promotional copy of On Call, it does sound really nice. I would have liked to see even more dynamics on the master but for todays standards it's pretty good. The recording does sound very nice. I love that it starts out with keyboards and then the bass kicks in then drums. The reverb does sound nice as well as the panning. I love that guitar on the right. The drums sound very nice as well. Check out the screen shot I've included.

bcgood

Sid Viscous · 13th April 2007, 09:54 PM

This is their (and John's with them) worst record, but it still is a great sounding one. Another good one is the new Clutch record.

BOWIE · 14th April 2007, 01:59 AM

Not completely on-subject but I saw them last summer w/ U2. The Kings were boring, pretentious asses and I could never buy any of their CD's based on this experience. They played a SUPER LONG set that was really stiff. The audience grew weary of this and stopped cheering between songs. The singer got all butt-hurt and started acting bitchy. This was a stupid move and the audience ate them alive with foll on "boo" and "boring" chants. Then the singer insulted the audience before leaving the stage.

Shandy · 14th April 2007, 12:49 PM

Haven't heard the new album, but I spent a lot of time with their last one. The band rocks for sure, but I'm always on the fence on whether the band rocks enough to make up for those ridiculous vocals.

He sounds exactly like the "m'kay?" guy from South Park.

LouD. · 15th April 2007, 04:59 PM

OK people... lets get it back on track here.

Ethan Johns and company did a fantastic job on all of the KoL records. I'm sure I'm not alone in striving to achieve some of the sounds heard on these albums.
SO
Anyone care to discuss the recording techniques employed in recording these albums?

FWIW I had the fortunate opportunity to hang out with the KoL after a show at a brew pub in Troy, NY. They were "stiff" at that show as well, and I asked them about that. They said it's the lack of energy of the audience that gets them down and makes it hard to get into the performance. I'm sure anyone who is a musician here can relate in a big way. Those boys are WAY down to earth and fun to hang with.

Unfortunately, I was not at all into talking about audio with them at that point...DOH!

scotty-o · 15th April 2007, 05:34 PM

I haven't heard the new record yet but I've got their first two as well as the old EP. Love those guys records but as someone mentioned earlier, they are boring as hell live.

-Scotty

Josht · 16th April 2007, 01:57 AM

You can check out some pics of the sessions at Ethan Johns' website:

http://www.threecrowsmusic.com/studio.htm

Looks like some kind LDC over the kit in the first pic (U67?). If you look at every other pic on his website of different groups he has Coles on OH.

Sid Viscous · 16th April 2007, 02:41 AM

I love them, but live they're less exciting than watching paint dry.

LouD. · 16th April 2007, 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josht

You can check out some pics of the sessions at Ethan Johns' website:

// three crows music -- studio //

Looks like some kind LDC over the kit in the first pic (U67?). If you look at every other pic on his website of different groups he has Coles on OH.

wow cool - I never knew about that site.

I'd like to know what's on the kik...

Mark O · 17th April 2007, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcgood

I just got through listening to my promotional copy of On Call, it does sound really nice. I would have liked to see even more dynamics on the master but for todays standards it's pretty good. The recording does sound very nice. I love that it starts out with keyboards and then the bass kicks in then drums. The reverb does sound nice as well as the panning. I love that guitar on the right. The drums sound very nice as well. Check out the screen shot I've included.

bcgood

which program is this ??

bcgood · 17th April 2007, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark O

which program is this ??

Adobe Audition 2.0

The Reel Thing · 17th April 2007, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcgood

I just got through listening to my promotional copy of On Call, it does sound really nice. I would have liked to see even more dynamics on the master but for todays standards it's pretty good. The recording does sound very nice. I love that it starts out with keyboards and then the bass kicks in then drums. The reverb does sound nice as well as the panning. I love that guitar on the right. The drums sound very nice as well. Check out the screen shot I've included.

bcgood

God, ****, I think this is the stupidest, least musical comment I've ever read on this forum. If I were one in the band or one who had worked on this album and you were to tell that shite to my face, I think I'd just atomize you.

You haven't even bought that album, you're a VIP, as we can all see from the cleverly hidden hint that yours is a promotional copy. It's all nice, it's not good or bad, it's nice. Nice as in 'I could have done it soooo much better' or at least 'I would have done it all a little bit different, y'know...'.

That guitar on the right, man, yeah, that right channel, much better than the left. I think it's mastered better, as well.

And then that picture. What is that, a prototype drawing of your new hairstyle?
Is that how we're supposed to perceive music?

Wow, that's the new way. Forget about CDs, forget about selling them. Just hand out promotional copies of analyzer sheets. Great record man, look at the right channel!

Sorry, this isn't personal, but I mean, we're talking about a rock'n'roll record.
Remember, rock'n'roll?

bcgood · 17th April 2007, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Reel Thing

God, ****, I think this is the stupidest, least musical comment I've ever read on this forum. If I were one in the band or one who had worked on this album and you were to tell that shite to my face, I think I'd just atomize you.

You haven't even bought that album, you're a VIP, as we can all see from the cleverly hidden hint that yours is a promotional copy. It's all nice, it's not good or bad, it's nice. Nice as in 'I could have done it soooo much better' or at least 'I would have done it all a little bit different, y'know...'.

That guitar on the right, man, yeah, that right channel, much better than the left. I think it's mastered better, as well.

And then that picture. What is that, a prototype drawing of your new hairstyle?
Is that how we're supposed to perceive music?

Wow, that's the new way. Forget about CDs, forget about selling them. Just hand out promotional copies of analyzer sheets. Great record man, look at the right channel!

Sorry, this isn't personal, but I mean, we're talking about a rock'n'roll record.
Remember, rock'n'roll?

No, I'm definitely not a VIP. I really don't know what to say to the rest of your post. I wish you peace and prosperity!

bcgood

LouD. · 18th April 2007, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Reel Thing

God, ****, I think this is the stupidest, least musical comment ............................. we're talking about a rock'n'roll record.
Remember, rock'n'roll?

hahahahahaha that's just funny.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Viscous

I love them, but live they're less exciting than watching paint dry.

Huh. As if making great music for us to listen to isn't enough. Now they really need to focus on putting on a great show. Maybe it's time for glam rock to make a comeback

Jack P · 18th April 2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LouD.

Huh. As if making great music for us to listen to isn't enough. Now they really need to focus on putting on a great show.

Maybe they need to learn how to moonwalk..

Agli · 18th April 2007, 10:55 PM

sorry..
KOL :)

matta · 18th April 2007, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Agli

vancalot ??? prrrfiss

haha

sorry..

Well I could say the same for you Agli... what kind of name is that?

What on EARTH does that have to do with the topic at hand which is the KOL album.

I've only heard the single, it def has a nice lush sound to it. I'm sure the lovely Studio D chamber had a little something to do with it. I love that space, it sounds magical just talking in there. I assume it was tracked on the 80B then as well then?

Matt

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Jack P Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 633	Kings of leon / Ethan johns Whew just got through listening to this new record by the kings of leon produced by ethan johns & Angelo Petraglia at blackbird & sunset sound. What an amazing record ! The songs, playing, sound and mastering is the best i've heard in years - reverb heaven.. Did anyone here work on the engineering of this record ?

4th April 2007, 10:22 PM	#5
James HE Gear interested Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 28	I heard a song from this on the radio today and immediatly knew I had to get this record, not knowing anything about it until I heard the song. Defintly have to get this now. __________________ boo

4th April 2007, 10:41 PM	#6
darkwater Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 1,070	I have also been wearing it out in the car. Good stuff. __________________ "Hell, you're easily amused... I can say wimpy....wompy....wambly...."

13th April 2007, 07:22 PM	#14
bcgood Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: West Coast Posts: 3,122	I just got through listening to my promotional copy of On Call, it does sound really nice. I would have liked to see even more dynamics on the master but for todays standards it's pretty good. The recording does sound very nice. I love that it starts out with keyboards and then the bass kicks in then drums. The reverb does sound nice as well as the panning. I love that guitar on the right. The drums sound very nice as well. Check out the screen shot I've included. bcgood Attached Thumbnails __________________ bcgood

4th April 2007, 09:57 PM	#3
yeloocproducer Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: los angeles Posts: 969	I'm taking a guess... but I bet Jacquire King worked on that record... he did the first one with Ethan and he lives in Nashville... haven't asked him tho.

4th April 2007, 11:00 PM	#7
numrologst Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 1,898	bump for some more info... ANd props to the album... Kings of Leon rock hard

5th April 2007, 12:34 AM	#8
mcollinge Gear nut Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 114	I'm just listening to this record for the first time right now. My god, it sounds great! Actually, I read an interview with Isaac Brock and he suggested that the album was recorded with almost no overdubs, including vocals. It sounds like it... like a REAL rock and roll record...

5th April 2007, 01:17 AM	#9
redddog Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,375	Ethan Johns is a frickin genious. Plain and simple. If I had anyone to pick from, he'd be the guy.

5th April 2007, 01:35 AM	#10
mcollinge Gear nut Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 114	God, I just love the use of reverb on this album. I would love to know more about the chamber, etc. Amazing drum sounds, too.

13th April 2007, 05:14 PM	#11
Josht Gear nut Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Madison, WI/Seattle Posts: 97	Man, I love Ethan Johns so much, I love the sound of every record he's worked on (at least that I've heard). Its funny, I was just admiring how cool Blackbird is last night, and then I picked up the new Kings record to review for a radio station I DJ for and saw that it was recorded there (and at Sunset). Interesting that the record was done at the D room, I always thought Ethan Johns was way into Neves, I would have predicted the A room.

13th April 2007, 05:55 PM	#12
blackfish Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: SxDx Posts: 228	mmmmmm, gated reverb hp'd slap back on bass. on call is such a cool song. love that guitar tone! comes outta right field large and loud! kudos to the production team and band!

13th April 2007, 09:54 PM	#15
Sid Viscous Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 8,918	This is their (and John's with them) worst record, but it still is a great sounding one. Another good one is the new Clutch record.

14th April 2007, 01:59 AM	#16
BOWIE Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Scottsdale, AZ. Posts: 1,151	Not completely on-subject but I saw them last summer w/ U2. The Kings were boring, pretentious asses and I could never buy any of their CD's based on this experience. They played a SUPER LONG set that was really stiff. The audience grew weary of this and stopped cheering between songs. The singer got all butt-hurt and started acting bitchy. This was a stupid move and the audience ate them alive with foll on "boo" and "boring" chants. Then the singer insulted the audience before leaving the stage.

14th April 2007, 12:49 PM	#17
Shandy Gear maniac Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Burlington, CT Posts: 222	Haven't heard the new album, but I spent a lot of time with their last one. The band rocks for sure, but I'm always on the fence on whether the band rocks enough to make up for those ridiculous vocals. He sounds exactly like the "m'kay?" guy from South Park. __________________ Shandy Lawson Media Park Studios

15th April 2007, 04:59 PM	#18
LouD. Gear maniac Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NY or Germany Posts: 260	OK people... lets get it back on track here. Ethan Johns and company did a fantastic job on all of the KoL records. I'm sure I'm not alone in striving to achieve some of the sounds heard on these albums. SO Anyone care to discuss the recording techniques employed in recording these albums? FWIW I had the fortunate opportunity to hang out with the KoL after a show at a brew pub in Troy, NY. They were "stiff" at that show as well, and I asked them about that. They said it's the lack of energy of the audience that gets them down and makes it hard to get into the performance. I'm sure anyone who is a musician here can relate in a big way. Those boys are WAY down to earth and fun to hang with. Unfortunately, I was not at all into talking about audio with them at that point...DOH!

15th April 2007, 05:34 PM	#19
scotty-o Gear maniac Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: D.C. / MD Posts: 213	I haven't heard the new record yet but I've got their first two as well as the old EP. Love those guys records but as someone mentioned earlier, they are boring as hell live. -Scotty __________________ "It's just like being in a reverb sandwich" - D.R. "I wish more musicians were more interested in their "performance" than the "technology" that lets them appear to be musicians" - mixerman499 "He was playing a Fender Precision with flatwound strings, like God meant for man to do." - Jim Dickinson

16th April 2007, 01:57 AM	#20
Josht Gear nut Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Madison, WI/Seattle Posts: 97	You can check out some pics of the sessions at Ethan Johns' website: http://www.threecrowsmusic.com/studio.htm Looks like some kind LDC over the kit in the first pic (U67?). If you look at every other pic on his website of different groups he has Coles on OH.

16th April 2007, 02:41 AM	#21
Sid Viscous Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 8,918	I love them, but live they're less exciting than watching paint dry.

18th April 2007, 10:55 PM	#29
Agli Gear maniac Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 260	sorry.. KOL :) Last edited by Agli; 27th April 2007 at 12:09 PM.. Reason: not trying to insult anyone..