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| Lives for gear Joined: May 2005 Location: Paris
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Thread Starter | what mic for bottom snare?
I've been using an sdc with success for that app. But Having only one couple I normally use them for overheads. Is a dynamic mic adapted for that? Would an other 57 do the job nicely? |
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| Mastering Moderator Joined: Apr 2003 Location: Always on the Run
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If it is a good or great sounding snare then yes the 57 will work. If you can (but it is a more expensive mic unfortunately) Sennheiser MD441 thumbsup
__________________ Velvet Room Mastering "Can you imagine how great the Beatles or Pink Floyd could have sounded if they had used better cables? I expect a Nobel prize to someday be awarded to an audiophile cable designer, as they clearly are way ahead of the rest of us. " - DC - |
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| Banned Joined: Sep 2005
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Almost anything will work because it ends up being so EQ'd and gated. I guess rejection from the other "good" sounds that the kit/drummer are making in order to gate it to death. My opinion? NO mic |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2003 Location: USA
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I usually use an SDC if available. Otherwise another '57 is perfectly fine.
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| Gear addict Joined: Sep 2006 Location: San Francisco, CA
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I was a "no mic on the snare bottom" guy for a while...but once I gave it a serious shot I was sold...now I wouldn't do drums without it...adds so much "crack" and life to the snare. Good ol' 57s on top and bottom make me happy. I've tried some other mics, including small and large cap condensers, but the 57 has been my all around favorite for that role.
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| Lives for gear Joined: Apr 2006
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Audix i5 on top, '57 on bottom. Sounds great.
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| Gear nut Joined: Jan 2007 Location: Santa Barbara, CA
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| i5
The answer somewhat depends on what sound you are going for, and the type of snare drum being used. I am currently in favor of a 57 on top, and an Audix i5 on the bottom. The i5 is cheap, but it'd be a really useful mic even if it wasn't,just like the 57. In those weird cases where a 57 on top doesn't sound right, the i5 will often sound right. Thus, you end up with a nice backup option. For me, recording under the snare is a must, unless you're tracking a band that's going for that modern-rock tiny snare sound, which is definitely a single mic on top situation. -Jaguar |
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| Gear nut Joined: Jan 2007 Location: Santa Barbara, CA
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Oh yeah, when mic'ing under the snare, remember: 1) always check phase with the top mic 2) point bottom mic away from the kick drum so that the rejection area on the mic is keeping the kick from bleeding through - this will help avoid incorrect gate triggering and avoid adding unwanted ambience to your kick drum -Jaguar |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2006 Location: US of A
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I've been using a Shure SM-81 lately and I'm happy! |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2004 Location: Escaped from Slipperhell
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Man I need to mic up the bottom of the snare at the next session I do.
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| Jai guru deva om Joined: Feb 2003 Location: South Carolina
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I used to mess with condensors under snare and pretty much went back to SM57's. 441 is a premium under snare setup, the guys at the Jam Room use it 100% under snare and the sound is excellent. War |
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| Gear nut Joined: Mar 2007 Location: NYC
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if the drummer bumps mics the tiny shure sm-98 works. it has a screw-on adapter thing that makes it hypercardioid. the adapter helps control the bleed from the other stuff somewhat.
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| Gear nut Joined: Jan 2005 Location: Los Angeles
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Has anyone tried a Royer 121 on snare bottom? I have one that I want to try on drums and I'm trying to figure out where it would be most usefull.
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| Lives for gear |
In another thread someone suggested placing a Royer 121 between the snare bottom and the kick, so that the brighter rear of the mic picks up the snares and the mellower side gets the beater of the kick. Could help getting rid of the "papery" (plerrrrr) sound you often get on the bottom of a snare. Might be tricky to get all the phase relationships right, but worth a try. Maybe saturate the preamp, compress, squash?
__________________ André ___________________________________________ "Recording exactly what a musician hears turns out to be a really big deal." Bob Olhsson "Who cares about efficiency, when we're talking about music?" Rupert Neve "it'll sound different through a microphone, anyway" Keith Carlock "no room, no boom!" Michael Wagener |
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another vote for the md441, if that is not available a sm57 will do... cheers jan |
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| Gear addict Joined: Jan 2005 Location: france
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57 will do...I like AKG 451.
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| Gear addict Joined: Aug 2006
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| Gear addict Joined: Jun 2005
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....... SM7 !
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| Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2003 Location: Minneapolis
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A 414 or a 57 seems to be the mics I end up with. Todd
__________________ Todd Fitzgerald Producer/Engineer Winterland Studios Minneapolis API Legacy + http://www.winterlandstudios.com |
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