CHOOSE; EQ harware with PLUGIN Comp OR vice versa

MooWahmBah · 13th March 2007, 05:29 AM

Hi ,,, given limited funds .....buy a hardware EQ with plugins for comp

or spend the money on a hardware comp and use the box for EQ?

My needs are for stereo tracking ....ac/el gtrs ...bass and voice

WHICH of the above 2 is better suited to ITB ?

opinions ? ,,,,thanks ,paul

junior · 13th March 2007, 05:39 AM

i dunno - i guess i'd go with the hardware comp and plug-in eq if i had to.

Chuck B · 13th March 2007, 05:41 AM

hardware compressor for sure. the plugs won't give you the vibe of a high quality comp. just make sure that your tracking sounds are 90% there so you don't have to do anything to radical with the plugin EQ
cheers

thethrillfactor · 13th March 2007, 05:50 AM

Why do you feel you need a stereo EQ or compressor for tracking guitars,bass or voice?

Save the dough and buy the best mics,suitable mic pres and converters for your recordings.

tINY · 13th March 2007, 06:32 AM

You can live with a lot ITB, except for mics - they don't make microphone plug ins.....

-tINY

mOjO FET · 13th March 2007, 12:23 PM

I have to agree with the two posters above.
With great mics and pres you'll have less need to tweak you recording.

Michael

TornadoTed · 13th March 2007, 12:30 PM

I can live with plugin EQ's, there are some very good ones about. I've never been totally happy with plugin compressors though.

The dman · 13th March 2007, 12:46 PM

Another vote for EQ plugins/hardware compressors. I've noticed even some of my middle of the road hardware compressors sound better than the plugins.

MooWahmBah · 13th March 2007, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thethrillfactor

Why do you feel you need a stereo EQ or compressor for tracking guitars,bass or voice?

Save the dough and buy the best mics,suitable mic pres and converters for your recordings.

Thanks guys ....looks unanimous ! COMP

I have a TG2 and think in stereo for the fattest possible ac gtr and el gtr .

obviously voice and bass will go mono .

Maybe a mono compressor since voice (and bass?) will be the hardest to tame .

My setup is pretty good ....1947 Gibson LG2 ....pair of Beyer mc930`s , a Geffel MV210, an Alesis GT tube AM62 LDC...into the TG2 into a Mytek 192 into PT002

The EQ thing gets me going because of the dark woody ac gtr , the mid heady TG2 and the flat (if not dark?) mc 930`s
I wonder aboout a cleaner pre (BG2?) or a pair of EQ`s (speck?)
oh .... to track voice , I need a compressor with this girl

any experienced and kind slutz care to sift through this for me ? thanks, Paul

tINY · 13th March 2007, 07:07 PM

Did you notice the advice about spending money on mics?

Better idea than an outboard EQ or a new pre-amp.

A good hardware compressor is sometimes handy - though you don't need it on electric guitar - they are already squashed to a narrow dynamic range. You can get away without the compressor on tracking too - if you have 24 bits and set your gain right......

-tINY

MooWahmBah · 13th March 2007, 11:41 PM

H i ,,,thanks ..oh yeah ! I`m paying close attention . So ...MICS ,huh?

I thought a brighter mic (sort of what I`d need to get the definition I feel is lacking with the dark gtr and mid heavy pre ) was considered undesirable .

I actually posted some samples of the Beyers,DPA`s and a Rode NT4 ...I liked the Rode alot and it was brighter .....maybe an inferior mic for ideal situations but it kind of made the gtr speak better with more snap . Is that what you mean about going for mics instead of pre`s and eq`s ????
here`s the thread with my samples ...scroll down to post 14 I think

Anyone tryed the Beyer MC 930?

thanks

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13th March 2007, 05:29 AM	#1
MooWahmBah Gear maniac Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 277	CHOOSE; EQ harware with PLUGIN Comp OR vice versa Hi ,,, given limited funds .....buy a hardware EQ with plugins for comp or spend the money on a hardware comp and use the box for EQ? My needs are for stereo tracking ....ac/el gtrs ...bass and voice WHICH of the above 2 is better suited to ITB ? opinions ? ,,,,thanks ,paul

13th March 2007, 05:39 AM	#2
junior Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 958	i dunno - i guess i'd go with the hardware comp and plug-in eq if i had to. __________________ "Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes. Art is knowing which ones to keep"... --Scott Adams

13th March 2007, 05:41 AM	#3
Chuck B Gear nut Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: chicago Posts: 143	hardware compressor for sure. the plugs won't give you the vibe of a high quality comp. just make sure that your tracking sounds are 90% there so you don't have to do anything to radical with the plugin EQ cheers __________________ Chuck ITB vs Analog "The two environments are so different that I have stopped trying to make them work or sound the same. I trust my instinct and my ability to make something sound pleasing ( very subjective here !!) and move forward." Kevin Killen

13th March 2007, 12:30 PM	#7
TornadoTed Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Wales Posts: 862	I can live with plugin EQ's, there are some very good ones about. I've never been totally happy with plugin compressors though. __________________ Ed Lewis Giant Wafer Studios, UK www.giantwafer.com www.myspace.com/giantwaferstudios

13th March 2007, 05:50 AM	#4
thethrillfactor Gear Guru Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 11,233	Why do you feel you need a stereo EQ or compressor for tracking guitars,bass or voice? Save the dough and buy the best mics,suitable mic pres and converters for your recordings.

13th March 2007, 06:32 AM	#5
tINY Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 6,057	You can live with a lot ITB, except for mics - they don't make microphone plug ins..... -tINY

13th March 2007, 12:23 PM	#6
mOjO FET Gear maniac Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Berlin Posts: 259	I have to agree with the two posters above. With great mics and pres you'll have less need to tweak you recording. Michael

13th March 2007, 12:46 PM	#8
The dman Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 988	Another vote for EQ plugins/hardware compressors. I've noticed even some of my middle of the road hardware compressors sound better than the plugins. __________________ My Hybrid Studio

13th March 2007, 07:07 PM	#10
tINY Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 6,057	Did you notice the advice about spending money on mics? Better idea than an outboard EQ or a new pre-amp. A good hardware compressor is sometimes handy - though you don't need it on electric guitar - they are already squashed to a narrow dynamic range. You can get away without the compressor on tracking too - if you have 24 bits and set your gain right...... -tINY

13th March 2007, 11:41 PM	#11
MooWahmBah Gear maniac Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 277	H i ,,,thanks ..oh yeah ! I`m paying close attention . So ...MICS ,huh? I thought a brighter mic (sort of what I`d need to get the definition I feel is lacking with the dark gtr and mid heavy pre ) was considered undesirable . I actually posted some samples of the Beyers,DPA`s and a Rode NT4 ...I liked the Rode alot and it was brighter .....maybe an inferior mic for ideal situations but it kind of made the gtr speak better with more snap . Is that what you mean about going for mics instead of pre`s and eq`s ???? here`s the thread with my samples ...scroll down to post 14 I think Anyone tryed the Beyer MC 930? thanks

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