Chicago VI Console

soupking · 27th February 2007

Okay, I'm not really a Chicago fan, but the end of that song, 'Feelin Stronger Every Day' is amazing. I heard it on the radio and was really hooked.

Where or what was that album recorded on? The harmonic vocals and beat in that song are juiced!

soupking · 28th February 2007

bump

Mike Tholen · 28th February 2007

I found this page...
http://www.pmerecords.com/Olive.cfm

soupking · 1st March 2007

Cool, thanks Mike!

Gravity8058 · 1st March 2007

The preamps in that baby will color your world

analogtodd · 1st March 2007

The Olive story is neat, but I dunno if it has anything to do with the Chicago VI sound.

I always thought the 8016 replaced the Olive so quickly that nothing had ever even been recorded on it.

Gravity8058 · 1st March 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by monkeyt

The Olive story is neat, but I dunno if it has anything to do with the Chicago VI sound.

I always thought the 8016 replaced the Olive so quickly that nothing had ever even been recorded on it.

Baby, what a big suprise, I never realized that

Drumsound · 1st March 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravity8058

The preamps in that baby will color your world

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravity8058

Baby, what a big suprise, I never realized that

How many of these you got?

tutt

ArcCirDude · 1st March 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravity8058

Baby, what a big suprise, I never realized that

Go on, Grav, make me smile....

Gravity8058 · 1st March 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArcCirDude

Go on, Grav, make me smile....

Sorry for the corny puns guys, I had a suprise appendectomy the night
before last and I've been a little loopy on the pain killers, but I'm feelin stronger every day.

analogtodd · 1st March 2007

man...
Whats this world coming to?

ArcCirDude · 2nd March 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravity8058

Sorry for the corny puns guys, I had a suprise appendectomy the night
before last and I've been a little loopy on the pain killers, but I'm feelin stronger every day.

Pain killers, huh? Be careful... From my experience it's only the beginning. In fact, last Saturday in the park I took a vicadin at, I dunno, 25 or 6 to four and I can't remember the rest of the day. That was my introduction to barbituates. But hey, I'm a man and I can take it.

cgarges · 2nd March 2007

It's okay, Doug. Quitting the puns can be a hard habit to break.

Chris Garges
Charlotte, NC

Gravity8058 · 2nd March 2007

Tony, Chris, wow, there are a lot of closet Chicago fans out there, and happenin cats at that! I would get on my high horse and trumpet the fact that we're "in the know" with regard to early Chicago's worth but the more humble side of me asks -- does anyone really know what time it is?

cgarges · 2nd March 2007

Can't get away, can you, Doug?

Chris Garges
Charlotte, NC

w2w · 2nd March 2007

Cmon guys...before it gets too deep......Look Away.......If you see this thread walking by......Just Look Away......

ArcCirDude · 2nd March 2007

Where do we go from here?

cgarges · 2nd March 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by w2w

Cmon guys...before it gets too deep......Look Away.......If you see this thread walking by......Just Look Away......

But, if you leave it now, this thread will lose the biggest part of you.

We've got, what, twenty five albums of this or something?

Chris Garges
Charlotte, NC

Gravity8058 · 2nd March 2007

Guess what new thread I just noticed:

"How to get that ultra-transparent acoustic sound like in some Eagles and early Rush?"

teeeeemmmmppppttttiinggggg.................

analogtodd · 2nd March 2007

man...
I thought I was being subtle
you guys just trounced in with Chicago VI and a little V
and probably even some IV and lookie at what happened!

dang

Gravity8058 · 2nd March 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by monkeyt

man...
I thought I was being subtle
you guys just trounced in with Chicago VI and a little V
and probably even some IV and lookie at what happened!

dang

"Bein' Subtle" ---- hmmm, is that on Chicago XII?

OKden · 3rd March 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgarges

Quitting the puns can be a hard habit to break.

Oh, don't stop now, I'm quite enjoying the dialogue.

ArcCirDude · 3rd March 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by monkeyt

man...
I thought I was being subtle
you guys just trounced in with Chicago VI and a little V
and probably even some IV and lookie at what happened!

dang

Yeah, I guess we're just a bunch of oldies (or Old Days, as I found out years later...)

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analogtodd · 3rd March 2007

dang..
anyway you want it I guess
I'm just gonna go hideaway

lets see if i can fit 3 in one post

/till we meet again

studio1117 · 19th July 2007

As far as I've heard it was that neve 8016. If you watch the clips from "chicago at the ranch" or whatever it was called, you see them tracking the song on that NEVE. I've touched and fondled that console in the past. Actually, it's kind of a custom desk with PPM meters etc, the story goes is that the OLIVE was/is/will always be a real POS and George Martin helped Jim get the NEVE in a hurry to replace the disaster that was the OLIVE. I've read where olive claims that a few hits were recorded or mixed on it, I seriously doubt it though. I was told the board never worked.
I think todd probably has a few pics he can post that we took while visiting all the old Chicago gear. You know...all the gear that was burned up in the fire....

Jim Williams · 19th July 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravity8058

Guess what new thread I just noticed:

"How to get that ultra-transparent acoustic sound like in some Eagles and early Rush?"
teeeeemmmmppppttttiinggggg.................

Console preamps.

None of these favorite sounding records used outboard preamps, just the one's that came with the console they booked with the studio.

So what's the difference between today's "sound" and these well recorded classics?

Look on the other side of the glass, it's what's in front of the mic, not what happens behind it.

Jim Williams
Audio Upgrades

studio1117 · 19th July 2007

I'd have to agree with Jim on that to some extent. Although I think gear can influence a sound (such as the introduction of the wah, distortion, that damn stupid Cher vocal pitch piece of crap trick, etc.)
I think people just don't know how to create space anymore. Very few bands have those songs that are catchy and arranged well.
It brings me to another problem as I take us further off topic. Why the hell do all of these new bands think they have more to say than their 60's-70's counterparts...make the songs 3 minutes again...even if a song has a catchy hook these days, after 4 and 1/2 minutes I'm pretty well wore out of hearing it appear 6 times in the song. KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID You are a pop artist not somebody from mensa.

soupking · 19th July 2007

Quote:

Why the hell do all of these new bands think they have more to say than their 60's-70's counterparts...make the songs 3 minutes again...even if a song has a catchy hook these days, after 4 and 1/2 minutes I'm pretty well wore out of hearing it appear 6 times in the song. KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID You are a pop artist not somebody from mensa.

I agree. If 6 people cover a song each one's going to sound different. People put too much emphasis on being creative. There's 8 notes, 12 tones, do what's already been done your own way. Simplify and re-vitalize, there's only 7 colors in the rainbow, but what's done with them paints the picture.

nyarlothothep · 19th July 2007

a lot of music is simple enough as it is, personally I prefer it when a band does something experimental and complex and 3 mins isnt substantial imo, its feels throwaway

soupking · 19th July 2007

Well, as they say in Spinal Tap, it's a fine line between brilliant and stupid.

27th February 2007	#1
soupking Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,337 Thread Starter	Chicago VI Console Okay, I'm not really a Chicago fan, but the end of that song, 'Feelin Stronger Every Day' is amazing. I heard it on the radio and was really hooked. Where or what was that album recorded on? The harmonic vocals and beat in that song are juiced!

28th February 2007	#3
Mike Tholen Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 901	Olive Console I found this page... http://www.pmerecords.com/Olive.cfm

2nd March 2007	#13
cgarges Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2004 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 903	It's okay, Doug. Quitting the puns can be a hard habit to break. Chris Garges Charlotte, NC __________________ On tour with Mitch Easter

19th July 2007	#25
studio1117 Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2004 Location: Salina, Kansas Posts: 713	As far as I've heard it was that neve 8016. If you watch the clips from "chicago at the ranch" or whatever it was called, you see them tracking the song on that NEVE. I've touched and fondled that console in the past. Actually, it's kind of a custom desk with PPM meters etc, the story goes is that the OLIVE was/is/will always be a real POS and George Martin helped Jim get the NEVE in a hurry to replace the disaster that was the OLIVE. I've read where olive claims that a few hits were recorded or mixed on it, I seriously doubt it though. I was told the board never worked. I think todd probably has a few pics he can post that we took while visiting all the old Chicago gear. You know...all the gear that was burned up in the fire.... __________________ Aaron Householter www.studio1117.com www.recordingservicesandsupply.com Fine Audio Equipment Sales

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1st March 2007	#4
soupking Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,337 Thread Starter	Cool, thanks Mike!

1st March 2007	#5
Gravity8058 Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,765	The preamps in that baby will color your world

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analogtodd Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2006 Location: Denver Colorado Posts: 1,199	The Olive story is neat, but I dunno if it has anything to do with the Chicago VI sound. I always thought the 8016 replaced the Olive so quickly that nothing had ever even been recorded on it.

2nd March 2007	#16
w2w Lives for gear Joined: Sep 2004 Location: Chicago IL Posts: 505	Cmon guys...before it gets too deep......Look Away.......If you see this thread walking by......Just Look Away......

2nd March 2007	#17
ArcCirDude Lives for gear Joined: May 2005 Location: Nesna, Norway Posts: 1,175	Where do we go from here?

3rd March 2007	#24
analogtodd Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2006 Location: Denver Colorado Posts: 1,199	dang.. anyway you want it I guess I'm just gonna go hideaway lets see if i can fit 3 in one post /till we meet again

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nyarlothothep Gear Head Joined: Apr 2007 Location: the universe Posts: 32	a lot of music is simple enough as it is, personally I prefer it when a band does something experimental and complex and 3 mins isnt substantial imo, its feels throwaway

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