WAVES alternative plugins

C Heat · 23rd February 2007, 11:28 PM

Following an excellent suggestion by Scott Petito in this thread, it would be helpful to know equal or (in your opinion) better plugins as Waves alternatives.

For example:

Waves RenComp - [equal or better alternative plugin here]
Waves RenVox - [equal or better alternative plugin here]

iziphonics · 23rd February 2007, 11:43 PM

RenComp- URS 1980, PSP Mixpressor (both different, but I'd easly use them as a replacement)
R Vox- UAD-1 LA2A

Koed · 23rd February 2007, 11:52 PM

I'm a big fan of Kjaerhus plugins.
Their Gold series compressors/limiters and eq are better than their Waves equivalents imho.
Just nothing beats R-vox on vocals.

mOjO FET · 24th February 2007, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iziphonics

RenComp- URS 1980, PSP Mixpressor (both different, but I'd easly use them as a replacement)

Yep. The URS 1970 is also very nice, more analog.

Michael

C Heat · 26th February 2007, 10:10 PM

Hmmmm. I thought this thread was a good idea!

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Kenny Gioia · 26th February 2007, 10:48 PM

It is a good idea.

You just need to start with a list of all the current Waves plugins and let people keep adding their alternatives to the list.

Good Luck.

C Heat · 26th February 2007, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Produceher

It is a good idea.

You just need to start with a list of all the current Waves plugins and let people keep adding their alternatives to the list.

Good Luck.

Whoa! That's a BIG list -

AudioTrack

C1 Parametric Compander

C4 Multiband

DeBreath

DeEsser

Doppler

Doubler

Enigma

Q10 Equalizer

IR-1

IR-360

IR-L

L1 Ultramaximizer

L2 Ultramaximizer

L3 Multimaximizer

L3 Ultramaximizer

L3-16 Multimaximizer

Linear Phase Equalizer

Linear Phase Multiband

MaxxBass

MaxxVolume

MetaFlanger

MondoMod

Morphoder

PAZ Analyzer

PS22 Stereo Maker

Q-Clone

Renaissance Axx

Renaissance Bass

Renaissance Channel

Renaissance Compressor

Renaissance DeEsser

Renaissance Equalizer

Renaissance Reverb

Renaissance Vox

S1 Stereo Imager

SoundShifter

SSL E-Channel

SSL G-Master Buss Compressor

SSL G-Equalizer

SuperTap

S360° Surround Panner

S360° Surround Imager

IDR360° Bit Re-quantizer

LFE360° Low-Pass Filter

L360° Surround Limiter

C360° Surround Compressor

R360° Surround Reverb

M360° Surround Manager

M360° Surround Mixdown

TransX

TrueVerb

Waves Tune

Waves Tune LT

UltraPitch

V-Comp

V-EQ3

V-EQ4

X-Crackle

X-Hum

X-Noise

X-Click

Z-Noise

Mikem · 27th February 2007, 12:09 AM

I relax in calm waters (no Waves, get it?

), by relying primarily on UAD-1 plug-ins. And when I want to stay native, Voxengo. I own every Voxengo plug-in, and I've always been happy with the results.

Kenny Gioia · 27th February 2007, 12:13 AM

Whoa! That's a BIG list -

AudioTrack

C1 Parametric Compander

C4 Multiband - TCMasterX

DeBreath

DeEsser

Doppler

Doubler

Enigma

Q10 Equalizer

IR-1 - Altiverb, TLSpace

IR-360

IR-L - Altiverb, TLSpace

L1 Ultramaximizer - Massey 007

L2 Ultramaximizer - Massey 007

L3 Multimaximizer - Massey 007

L3 Ultramaximizer - Massey 007

L3-16 Multimaximizer

Linear Phase Equalizer

Linear Phase Multiband

MaxxBass

MaxxVolume

MetaFlanger

MondoMod

Morphoder

PAZ Analyzer

PS22 Stereo Maker

Q-Clone

Renaissance Axx

Renaissance Bass

Renaissance Channel

Renaissance Compressor - Massey CT4

Renaissance DeEsser

Renaissance Equalizer - Digi EQIII, Sony Oxford

Renaissance Reverb

Renaissance Vox

S1 Stereo Imager

SoundShifter

SSL E-Channel

SSL G-Master Buss Compressor

SSL G-Equalizer

SuperTap

S360° Surround Panner

S360° Surround Imager

IDR360° Bit Re-quantizer

LFE360° Low-Pass Filter

L360° Surround Limiter

C360° Surround Compressor

R360° Surround Reverb

M360° Surround Manager

M360° Surround Mixdown

TransX

TrueVerb

Waves Tune

Waves Tune LT

UltraPitch

V-Comp

V-EQ3

V-EQ4

X-Crackle

X-Hum

X-Noise

X-Click

Z-Noise

C Heat · 27th February 2007, 01:00 AM

Kiwiburger · 27th February 2007, 01:09 AM

The PSP stuff is great. I have the Total Pack. The Voxengo stuff fills in the gaps - and I like the odd Kjaerhus plugin.

PoorGlory · 27th February 2007, 01:27 AM

Just got the Massey Limiter and its out of control good.

Elemental Audio (Roger Nichols) Eqium destroys Q10 in every conceivable way.

The only Waves I still use are the Linear Multiband and the Rverb. I plan on replacing the multiband with Wave Arts (although I haven't demoed it yet) and moving to outboard for all verb duties.

I may be in the minority here, but I feel the Digidesign Digirack Compressor is pretty freaking good, and pretty much remains my go-to ITB comp.

gainstages · 27th February 2007, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikem

I relax in calm waters (no Waves, get it?

), by relying primarily on UAD-1 plug-ins. And when I want to stay native, Voxengo. I own every Voxengo plug-in, and I've always been happy with the results.

MikeM you look very familiar - I cut my teeth in the SLC area. what's your last name? where have you worked/played/studied???

Mikem · 27th February 2007, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gainstages

MikeM you look very familiar - I cut my teeth in the SLC area. what's your last name? where have you worked/played/studied???

Matt Mylroie -formally of "Crossfade Recording" in Logan UT

Email sent.

superbee · 27th February 2007, 03:44 AM

RenVox is really the only Waves plugin I reallly like. I wish I could find an alternative to that one.

The Massey CT4 is a great replacement for RenComp.

I have a new rig on the way and I am hoping I do not need to the Waves.

Great Thread!

zboy2854 · 27th February 2007, 04:00 AM

Anyone have any good replacements for these?

Metaflanger
Doppler
Mondomod
S1 Stereo Imager

robot gigante · 27th February 2007, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zboy2854

Anyone have any good replacements for these?

Metaflanger
Doppler
Mondomod
S1 Stereo Imager

Not direct replacements for every one of those per se, but Eventide Anthology II and GRM Tools will do the trick.

juniorhifikit · 27th February 2007, 10:29 AM

unfortunately, I have found no replacement for the RenDeEsser. I've tried everything (for ProTools HD) and nothing gets as close to my 902's than the waves - which sound and behave almost exact by the way. Bummer - had to shell out...

C'mon Steven Massey! You can do it!

sardi · 27th February 2007, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zboy2854

Anyone have any good replacements for these?

Metaflanger
Doppler
Mondomod
S1 Stereo Imager

Same.

No one ever mentions these plugs, but Metaflanger, Enigma and Mondomod are some of the main Waves plugs that I use very frequently. Also RenComp.

Seems to be bulk replacements for their EQ and Dynamics plugs, but not their Modulation plugs. :(

juniorhifikit · 27th February 2007, 11:46 AM

A REALLY good flanger that rivals tape would be handy

Mikey MTC · 27th February 2007, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juniorhifikit

A REALLY good flanger that rivals tape would be handy

Try the new Digi Real Tape Flanger when it's out.

living sounds · 27th February 2007, 12:30 PM

Is there a plugin (PC/MAC) to replace Maxbass/RBass?

juniorhifikit · 27th February 2007, 07:02 PM

"Lowender":

http://www.refusesoftware.com/lowender.html

Way better (IMHO). more like the DBX boombox...

robot gigante · 27th February 2007, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sardi

Same.

No one ever mentions these plugs, but Metaflanger, Enigma and Mondomod are some of the main Waves plugs that I use very frequently. Also RenComp.

Seems to be bulk replacements for their EQ and Dynamics plugs, but not their Modulation plugs. :(

I like the Eventide flanging better most of the time (you can get some really good flanger sounds out of the H949)- Metaflanger has some phaser sounds that are Ok though. The modulation stuff that some of the GRM Tools plugins do is simply sick! You can also do a lot of crazy modulation fx with the other Eventide plugins like H3000 Factory, Octavox, etc. Actually I'm not a fan of the Waves modulation plugins that much any more.

For RenComp I agree about the Massey CT4, there's also TL Aggro (which Massey had a hand in) and Smack.

marcan · 27th February 2007, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juniorhifikit

unfortunately, I have found no replacement for the RenDeEsser.

sptfish or iq4.
Both are free and (for me) way better than RenDeEsser. Iq4 is currently the only usable deesser for me. IMHO other deesser (like waves) kill the voice (if it's in split mode) or the intelligibility (if it's in wide band mode).
Actually, iq4 is not really a desser, it's a dynamic eq. Easy, very effective and transparent.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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Westex · 27th February 2007, 09:13 PM

These would be my Waves replacements:

EQs:
Tritone Hydratone
Voxengo HarmoniEQ
PSP Neon

Comps:
DPP Blockfish
Voxengo Marquis
PSP VW

Reverb:
Voxengo Prisitine Space

Delays:
Voxengo Analog Flux
PSP84

Modulation:
Voxengo Analog Flux
Phase90

Deesser:
DPP Spitfish

Transient/Envelope:
DPP Dominion

Pitch Shifters:
AD Discord
Madshifta

Misc:
MDA TestTone
Inspector XL

zboy2854 · 27th February 2007, 09:51 PM

The DPP stuff appears to have not been updated since 2005. I guess this means no UB versions for Mac, eh?

Westex · 28th February 2007, 06:37 AM

I can still run all the DPP stuff on my XP box.

Hopefully, Sasha will port his Samplitude plugs to UB Mac, though.

reid · 28th February 2007, 09:41 AM

S1 Stereo Imager - does anyone know if the PSP Stereo Pack on a par with this?

thethrillfactor · 28th February 2007, 09:52 AM

Are there any better alternatives to the Super Tap 6 delay?(the Waves plug i use most).

23rd February 2007, 11:28 PM	#1
C Heat Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In a house by the sea Posts: 2,642	WAVES alternative plugins Following an excellent suggestion by Scott Petito in this thread, it would be helpful to know equal or (in your opinion) better plugins as Waves alternatives. For example: Waves RenComp - [equal or better alternative plugin here] Waves RenVox - [equal or better alternative plugin here]

26th February 2007, 10:48 PM	#6
Kenny Gioia Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 4,784	It is a good idea. You just need to start with a list of all the current Waves plugins and let people keep adding their alternatives to the list. Good Luck. __________________

27th February 2007, 12:13 AM	#9
Kenny Gioia Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 4,784	Whoa! That's a BIG list - AudioTrack C1 Parametric Compander C4 Multiband - TCMasterX DeBreath DeEsser Doppler Doubler Enigma Q10 Equalizer IR-1 - Altiverb, TLSpace IR-360 IR-L - Altiverb, TLSpace L1 Ultramaximizer - Massey 007 L2 Ultramaximizer - Massey 007 L3 Multimaximizer - Massey 007 L3 Ultramaximizer - Massey 007 L3-16 Multimaximizer Linear Phase Equalizer Linear Phase Multiband MaxxBass MaxxVolume MetaFlanger MondoMod Morphoder PAZ Analyzer PS22 Stereo Maker Q-Clone Renaissance Axx Renaissance Bass Renaissance Channel Renaissance Compressor - Massey CT4 Renaissance DeEsser Renaissance Equalizer - Digi EQIII, Sony Oxford Renaissance Reverb Renaissance Vox S1 Stereo Imager SoundShifter SSL E-Channel SSL G-Master Buss Compressor SSL G-Equalizer SuperTap S360° Surround Panner S360° Surround Imager IDR360° Bit Re-quantizer LFE360° Low-Pass Filter L360° Surround Limiter C360° Surround Compressor R360° Surround Reverb M360° Surround Manager M360° Surround Mixdown TransX TrueVerb Waves Tune Waves Tune LT UltraPitch V-Comp V-EQ3 V-EQ4 X-Crackle X-Hum X-Noise X-Click Z-Noise __________________

27th February 2007, 01:09 AM	#11
Kiwiburger Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,078	The PSP stuff is great. I have the Total Pack. The Voxengo stuff fills in the gaps - and I like the odd Kjaerhus plugin. __________________ My carbon footprint is bigger than yours.

27th February 2007, 03:44 AM	#15
superbee Gear maniac Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: St. Petersburg, Florida Posts: 208	RenVox is really the only Waves plugin I reallly like. I wish I could find an alternative to that one. The Massey CT4 is a great replacement for RenComp. I have a new rig on the way and I am hoping I do not need to the Waves. Great Thread! __________________ Brian www.myspace.com/theditchflowers

23rd February 2007, 11:43 PM	#2
iziphonics Gear maniac Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Warsaw, Poland Posts: 195	RenComp- URS 1980, PSP Mixpressor (both different, but I'd easly use them as a replacement) R Vox- UAD-1 LA2A

23rd February 2007, 11:52 PM	#3
Koed Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 378	I'm a big fan of Kjaerhus plugins. Their Gold series compressors/limiters and eq are better than their Waves equivalents imho. Just nothing beats R-vox on vocals.

26th February 2007, 10:10 PM	#5
C Heat Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In a house by the sea Posts: 2,642	Hmmmm. I thought this thread was a good idea! me

27th February 2007, 12:09 AM	#8
Mikem Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 255	I relax in calm waters (no Waves, get it? ), by relying primarily on UAD-1 plug-ins. And when I want to stay native, Voxengo. I own every Voxengo plug-in, and I've always been happy with the results.

27th February 2007, 01:00 AM	#10
C Heat Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In a house by the sea Posts: 2,642

27th February 2007, 01:27 AM	#12
PoorGlory Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,673	Just got the Massey Limiter and its out of control good. Elemental Audio (Roger Nichols) Eqium destroys Q10 in every conceivable way. The only Waves I still use are the Linear Multiband and the Rverb. I plan on replacing the multiband with Wave Arts (although I haven't demoed it yet) and moving to outboard for all verb duties. I may be in the minority here, but I feel the Digidesign Digirack Compressor is pretty freaking good, and pretty much remains my go-to ITB comp.

27th February 2007, 04:00 AM	#16
zboy2854 Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 7,939	Anyone have any good replacements for these? Metaflanger Doppler Mondomod S1 Stereo Imager __________________ What the wise man does in the beginning, fools do in the end. --Warren Buffett The four most expensive words in the English language are: "This time it's different." --John Marks Templeton

27th February 2007, 10:29 AM	#18
juniorhifikit Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Paris/SanFrancisco Posts: 1,062	unfortunately, I have found no replacement for the RenDeEsser. I've tried everything (for ProTools HD) and nothing gets as close to my 902's than the waves - which sound and behave almost exact by the way. Bummer - had to shell out... C'mon Steven Massey! You can do it!

27th February 2007, 11:46 AM	#20
juniorhifikit Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Paris/SanFrancisco Posts: 1,062	A REALLY good flanger that rivals tape would be handy

27th February 2007, 12:30 PM	#22
living sounds Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 1,186	Is there a plugin (PC/MAC) to replace Maxbass/RBass?

27th February 2007, 07:02 PM	#23
juniorhifikit Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Paris/SanFrancisco Posts: 1,062	"Lowender": http://www.refusesoftware.com/lowender.html Way better (IMHO). more like the DBX boombox...

27th February 2007, 09:13 PM	#26
Westex Gear Head Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 38	These would be my Waves replacements: EQs: Tritone Hydratone Voxengo HarmoniEQ PSP Neon Comps: DPP Blockfish Voxengo Marquis PSP VW Reverb: Voxengo Prisitine Space Delays: Voxengo Analog Flux PSP84 Modulation: Voxengo Analog Flux Phase90 Deesser: DPP Spitfish Transient/Envelope: DPP Dominion Pitch Shifters: AD Discord Madshifta Misc: MDA TestTone Inspector XL __________________ Can't afford a vintage Neumann mic? Rent-to-own a Red Type B for only $65 a week!!! Find out how... JD Westex Media

27th February 2007, 09:51 PM	#27
zboy2854 Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 7,939	The DPP stuff appears to have not been updated since 2005. I guess this means no UB versions for Mac, eh? __________________ What the wise man does in the beginning, fools do in the end. --Warren Buffett The four most expensive words in the English language are: "This time it's different." --John Marks Templeton

28th February 2007, 06:37 AM	#28
Westex Gear Head Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 38	I can still run all the DPP stuff on my XP box. Hopefully, Sasha will port his Samplitude plugs to UB Mac, though. __________________ Can't afford a vintage Neumann mic? Rent-to-own a Red Type B for only $65 a week!!! Find out how... JD Westex Media

28th February 2007, 09:41 AM	#29
reid Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Berlin-London Posts: 883	S1 Stereo Imager - does anyone know if the PSP Stereo Pack on a par with this?

28th February 2007, 09:52 AM	#30
thethrillfactor Gear Guru Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 12,836	Are there any better alternatives to the Super Tap 6 delay?(the Waves plug i use most).

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