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Old 23rd February 2007   #1
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WAVES alternative plugins

Following an excellent suggestion by Scott Petito in this thread, it would be helpful to know equal or (in your opinion) better plugins as Waves alternatives.

For example:

Waves RenComp - [equal or better alternative plugin here]
Waves RenVox - [equal or better alternative plugin here]
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RenComp- URS 1980, PSP Mixpressor (both different, but I'd easly use them as a replacement)
R Vox- UAD-1 LA2A
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I'm a big fan of Kjaerhus plugins.
Their Gold series compressors/limiters and eq are better than their Waves equivalents imho.
Just nothing beats R-vox on vocals.
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RenComp- URS 1980, PSP Mixpressor (both different, but I'd easly use them as a replacement)
Yep. The URS 1970 is also very nice, more analog.

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Hmmmm. I thought this thread was a good idea!

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It is a good idea.

You just need to start with a list of all the current Waves plugins and let people keep adding their alternatives to the list.

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It is a good idea.

You just need to start with a list of all the current Waves plugins and let people keep adding their alternatives to the list.

Good Luck.
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AudioTrack

C1 Parametric Compander

C4 Multiband

DeBreath

DeEsser

Doppler

Doubler

Enigma

Q10 Equalizer

IR-1

IR-360

IR-L

L1 Ultramaximizer

L2 Ultramaximizer

L3 Multimaximizer

L3 Ultramaximizer

L3-16 Multimaximizer

Linear Phase Equalizer

Linear Phase Multiband

MaxxBass

MaxxVolume

MetaFlanger

MondoMod

Morphoder

PAZ Analyzer

PS22 Stereo Maker

Q-Clone

Renaissance Axx

Renaissance Bass

Renaissance Channel

Renaissance Compressor

Renaissance DeEsser

Renaissance Equalizer

Renaissance Reverb

Renaissance Vox

S1 Stereo Imager

SoundShifter

SSL E-Channel

SSL G-Master Buss Compressor

SSL G-Equalizer

SuperTap

S360° Surround Panner

S360° Surround Imager

IDR360° Bit Re-quantizer

LFE360° Low-Pass Filter

L360° Surround Limiter

C360° Surround Compressor

R360° Surround Reverb

M360° Surround Manager

M360° Surround Mixdown

TransX

TrueVerb

Waves Tune

Waves Tune LT

UltraPitch

V-Comp

V-EQ3

V-EQ4

X-Crackle

X-Hum

X-Noise

X-Click

Z-Noise
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I relax in calm waters (no Waves, get it? ), by relying primarily on UAD-1 plug-ins. And when I want to stay native, Voxengo. I own every Voxengo plug-in, and I've always been happy with the results.
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Whoa! That's a BIG list -


AudioTrack

C1 Parametric Compander

C4 Multiband - TCMasterX

DeBreath

DeEsser

Doppler

Doubler

Enigma

Q10 Equalizer

IR-1 - Altiverb, TLSpace

IR-360

IR-L - Altiverb, TLSpace

L1 Ultramaximizer - Massey 007

L2 Ultramaximizer - Massey 007

L3 Multimaximizer - Massey 007

L3 Ultramaximizer - Massey 007

L3-16 Multimaximizer

Linear Phase Equalizer

Linear Phase Multiband

MaxxBass

MaxxVolume

MetaFlanger

MondoMod

Morphoder

PAZ Analyzer

PS22 Stereo Maker

Q-Clone

Renaissance Axx

Renaissance Bass

Renaissance Channel

Renaissance Compressor - Massey CT4

Renaissance DeEsser

Renaissance Equalizer - Digi EQIII, Sony Oxford

Renaissance Reverb

Renaissance Vox

S1 Stereo Imager

SoundShifter

SSL E-Channel

SSL G-Master Buss Compressor

SSL G-Equalizer

SuperTap

S360° Surround Panner

S360° Surround Imager

IDR360° Bit Re-quantizer

LFE360° Low-Pass Filter

L360° Surround Limiter

C360° Surround Compressor

R360° Surround Reverb

M360° Surround Manager

M360° Surround Mixdown

TransX

TrueVerb

Waves Tune

Waves Tune LT

UltraPitch

V-Comp

V-EQ3

V-EQ4

X-Crackle

X-Hum

X-Noise

X-Click

Z-Noise
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The PSP stuff is great. I have the Total Pack. The Voxengo stuff fills in the gaps - and I like the odd Kjaerhus plugin.
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Just got the Massey Limiter and its out of control good.

Elemental Audio (Roger Nichols) Eqium destroys Q10 in every conceivable way.

The only Waves I still use are the Linear Multiband and the Rverb. I plan on replacing the multiband with Wave Arts (although I haven't demoed it yet) and moving to outboard for all verb duties.

I may be in the minority here, but I feel the Digidesign Digirack Compressor is pretty freaking good, and pretty much remains my go-to ITB comp.
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I relax in calm waters (no Waves, get it? ), by relying primarily on UAD-1 plug-ins. And when I want to stay native, Voxengo. I own every Voxengo plug-in, and I've always been happy with the results.

MikeM you look very familiar - I cut my teeth in the SLC area. what's your last name? where have you worked/played/studied???

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MikeM you look very familiar - I cut my teeth in the SLC area. what's your last name? where have you worked/played/studied???

Matt Mylroie -formally of "Crossfade Recording" in Logan UT
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RenVox is really the only Waves plugin I reallly like. I wish I could find an alternative to that one.

The Massey CT4 is a great replacement for RenComp.

I have a new rig on the way and I am hoping I do not need to the Waves.

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Anyone have any good replacements for these?

Metaflanger
Doppler
Mondomod
S1 Stereo Imager
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Anyone have any good replacements for these?

Metaflanger
Doppler
Mondomod
S1 Stereo Imager
Not direct replacements for every one of those per se, but Eventide Anthology II and GRM Tools will do the trick.
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unfortunately, I have found no replacement for the RenDeEsser. I've tried everything (for ProTools HD) and nothing gets as close to my 902's than the waves - which sound and behave almost exact by the way. Bummer - had to shell out...

C'mon Steven Massey! You can do it!
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Anyone have any good replacements for these?

Metaflanger
Doppler
Mondomod
S1 Stereo Imager
Same.

No one ever mentions these plugs, but Metaflanger, Enigma and Mondomod are some of the main Waves plugs that I use very frequently. Also RenComp.

Seems to be bulk replacements for their EQ and Dynamics plugs, but not their Modulation plugs. :(
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A REALLY good flanger that rivals tape would be handy
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A REALLY good flanger that rivals tape would be handy
Try the new Digi Real Tape Flanger when it's out.
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Is there a plugin (PC/MAC) to replace Maxbass/RBass?
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"Lowender":

http://www.refusesoftware.com/lowender.html

Way better (IMHO). more like the DBX boombox...
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Same.

No one ever mentions these plugs, but Metaflanger, Enigma and Mondomod are some of the main Waves plugs that I use very frequently. Also RenComp.

Seems to be bulk replacements for their EQ and Dynamics plugs, but not their Modulation plugs. :(
I like the Eventide flanging better most of the time (you can get some really good flanger sounds out of the H949)- Metaflanger has some phaser sounds that are Ok though. The modulation stuff that some of the GRM Tools plugins do is simply sick! You can also do a lot of crazy modulation fx with the other Eventide plugins like H3000 Factory, Octavox, etc. Actually I'm not a fan of the Waves modulation plugins that much any more.

For RenComp I agree about the Massey CT4, there's also TL Aggro (which Massey had a hand in) and Smack.
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unfortunately, I have found no replacement for the RenDeEsser.
sptfish or iq4.
Both are free and (for me) way better than RenDeEsser. Iq4 is currently the only usable deesser for me. IMHO other deesser (like waves) kill the voice (if it's in split mode) or the intelligibility (if it's in wide band mode).
Actually, iq4 is not really a desser, it's a dynamic eq. Easy, very effective and transparent.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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These would be my Waves replacements:

EQs:
Tritone Hydratone
Voxengo HarmoniEQ
PSP Neon

Comps:
DPP Blockfish
Voxengo Marquis
PSP VW

Reverb:
Voxengo Prisitine Space

Delays:
Voxengo Analog Flux
PSP84

Modulation:
Voxengo Analog Flux
Phase90

Deesser:
DPP Spitfish

Transient/Envelope:
DPP Dominion

Pitch Shifters:
AD Discord
Madshifta

Misc:
MDA TestTone
Inspector XL

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The DPP stuff appears to have not been updated since 2005. I guess this means no UB versions for Mac, eh?
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I can still run all the DPP stuff on my XP box.

Hopefully, Sasha will port his Samplitude plugs to UB Mac, though.
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S1 Stereo Imager - does anyone know if the PSP Stereo Pack on a par with this?
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Are there any better alternatives to the Super Tap 6 delay?(the Waves plug i use most).
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