How to get a snare to sound like this? - Page 2

Kiwiburger · 24th February 2007, 11:44 AM

When he does the rolls, it's very obvious the share is tuned very tight for a crisp piccalo sound. That Roland drum machine sound that comes in on the 2 & 4 is obviously seperate, and I would guess sequenced along with a lot of the keyboard stuff.

norman_nomad · 24th February 2007, 12:40 PM

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but that snare is either a trigger or a sample.

Oh yeah and it sounds bad. I'm not sure if that's been mentioned either.

So just to be clear: trigger, sample, sounds bad.

gatekeeper · 24th February 2007, 01:16 PM

thank got drum sounds and audio is based on own personal opinions, I honestly think it sounds nice!! Well thats just me.

Jamz · 25th February 2007, 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warhead

I was wondering, he seemed to be "hands free" for part of the clip.

He's playing the organ.

War

LMAO! Good one Warrren.

Drumsound · 25th February 2007, 06:57 AM

Metal snare tuned tight. Rimshots. VINNIE!

Mike Caffrey · 25th February 2007, 07:07 AM

Those of you who think it's a trigger should listen again very closely wihtout watching the video. Just listen to beats 2 and 4 for the first minute or two and it should become clear that it's not a trigger.

chymer · 25th February 2007, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatekeeper

thank got drum sounds and audio is based on own personal opinions, I honestly think it sounds nice!! Well thats just me.

When I was studying at art school we were taught that NICE = BAD.
So yeah, that snare is very very nice.

Jack Ruston · 25th February 2007, 04:53 PM

With snares you have to find the sound in the source itself rather than the mic or position if you know what I mean. This is especially true with a dry sound like that where you dont have a big room sound providing half of it for you. What the close mic and the overheads hear is sort of what you get.

I dont know about whether there was a trigger or whatever going on in the clip. I can say that it wasn't really my thing. I can appreciate how impressive it is, but it's just such a total snooze-fest! Just my opinion of course.

allencollins · 25th February 2007, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatekeeper

Obviously besides the drummer and drum etc etc, how do you get a snare to sound like either one of these samples. In this video, vinnie colauita on drums, he's using one of those beta shure mics, I mean nothing out of this world, but it sounds AWESOME!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBClHJ7xNzw

Check out the wack on that snare

There was one more type of snare sound I was looking for but can't find a decent sample at the moment.

That snare sound would be easy to get. Just tune it improperly. Its way out of tune.
Out of tune and about an octave too high atleast. Could that be sampled?
Ive never heard a real snare sound that bad. Youd probably break the lugs
tuning it that high

That band does kick complete ass though. too bad the drum sound ruins it

Blast9 · 25th February 2007, 05:17 PM

Jezz you guys are harsh! LOL

I agree with Mike Caffery./.. Playing along toa sample, not triggering. That's a mic clip guys.

ANyway that snare sound is easy for a drummer to get with a hi-pitched piccolo as mentioned. Helmet, anyone?

...and the old James Brown stuff --- very similar.

... And Electric Outlet by John Scofield/Steve Jordan --- very similar tone/approach, and playing along to samples/drum machine. And that was back in 1983

... and just about any modern R n B live drummer

So is that Mike landau on gtr?

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24th February 2007, 11:44 AM	#31
Kiwiburger Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,816	When he does the rolls, it's very obvious the share is tuned very tight for a crisp piccalo sound. That Roland drum machine sound that comes in on the 2 & 4 is obviously seperate, and I would guess sequenced along with a lot of the keyboard stuff. __________________ Once you let the magic smoke escape, you can't expect it to work again unless you take it to a wizzard and have him put more smoke inside ... tINY

24th February 2007, 01:16 PM	#33
gatekeeper Gear Head Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 67	thank got drum sounds and audio is based on own personal opinions, I honestly think it sounds nice!! Well thats just me. __________________ Nobody cares what the impedance is; all they care about is when you can walk into the room, set up a mic, turn the knobs, hit record, and make everybody go “wow.” -Chris Lord-Alge

25th February 2007, 06:57 AM	#35
Drumsound Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bloomington Il Posts: 3,597	Metal snare tuned tight. Rimshots. VINNIE! __________________ Tony Oxide Lounge Recording See the Oxide Lounge! WWJMD? Come see me on the Tape Op boards! "If I have to flip flop more than three times in an A/B test to figure out what the difference is, I lose interest in that difference.'--Tchad Blake

25th February 2007, 05:17 PM	#40
Blast9 Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: London Posts: 2,816	Jezz you guys are harsh! LOL I agree with Mike Caffery./.. Playing along toa sample, not triggering. That's a mic clip guys. ANyway that snare sound is easy for a drummer to get with a hi-pitched piccolo as mentioned. Helmet, anyone? ...and the old James Brown stuff --- very similar. ... And Electric Outlet by John Scofield/Steve Jordan --- very similar tone/approach, and playing along to samples/drum machine. And that was back in 1983 ... and just about any modern R n B live drummer So is that Mike landau on gtr? __________________ :: my band is called protoangel My guitars: Atkin OM (sitka spruce top walnut back: sweet mids):: Atkin Small Jumbo (cedar top, rosewood back: big bottom, sparkly top):: Jap Tele with fat frets (rude and fat):: . My amps: 1973 Hiwatt DR504::Framus Dragon ... Latest purchases Kel Audio HM-2d TC Electronic Nova System, Chameleon Labs 7602 Digi 002 + PTLE, Addictive Drums

24th February 2007, 12:40 PM	#32
norman_nomad Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 1,975	I'm not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but that snare is either a trigger or a sample. Oh yeah and it sounds bad. I'm not sure if that's been mentioned either. So just to be clear: trigger, sample, sounds bad.

25th February 2007, 07:07 AM	#36
Mike Caffrey Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 2,603	Those of you who think it's a trigger should listen again very closely wihtout watching the video. Just listen to beats 2 and 4 for the first minute or two and it should become clear that it's not a trigger.

25th February 2007, 04:53 PM	#38
Jack Ruston Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Wimbledon Posts: 706	With snares you have to find the sound in the source itself rather than the mic or position if you know what I mean. This is especially true with a dry sound like that where you dont have a big room sound providing half of it for you. What the close mic and the overheads hear is sort of what you get. I dont know about whether there was a trigger or whatever going on in the clip. I can say that it wasn't really my thing. I can appreciate how impressive it is, but it's just such a total snooze-fest! Just my opinion of course.

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