Is kick/snare multing overkill if doing whole kit parallel compression also?

Matt Grondin · 11th February 2007

The title says it all. I haven't really done a lot of multing, although I would think that it would be an easy way to compress and gate the donkey balls out of your kick and snare whilst still preserving the tone of the original source. I guess it's similar in ways, but in parallel comping, you're obviously treating the kit as a whole and gating would be rather pointless. Thoughts? Anyone here radical enough to do individual comps on kick/snare/toms, drum buss compression, parallel compression, and mults?

Talk about overkill.

superburtm · 11th February 2007

I don't think its overkill I do it quite often.thumbsup

Jack Ruston · 11th February 2007

No...It's never overkill. Mult away. And then mult again for good measure!

J

ewillo · 11th February 2007

I have to agree - never overkill. I'll mult a kick twice usually. On one, compress the snot out of it and leave nothing but the attack. On the other, just try to get as much bass as I can - usually boosting the low's with a pultec and then compressing that. Then blend them back with the original sound to taste. Great way to beef up a kick and keep the integrity of the original sound.

Matt Grondin · 11th February 2007

Cool, I was just worried about making all these copies, but I guess it's not an issue.

chymer · 11th February 2007

get some stephen slate samples...man they are really great.

recall · 11th February 2007

if it sounds good go with it. I often mult kick and snare to really dial it in with the rest of the drum sub.

Jason Poulin · 11th February 2007

no man... it's actually all part of the game!

I think as multing is for getting the sound I am looking for without over processing the one track and parralele compression is for the punch in the chest.

Jason

Matt Grondin · 12th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by chymer

get some stephen slate samples...man they are really great.

Thanks, but I'll pass. I have an amazing vintage Gretsch kit with the best drummers in town... I do not need, nor want, samples.

studilaroche · 12th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by dobby12

Thanks, but I'll pass. I have an amazing vintage Gretsch kit with the best drummers in town... I do not need, nor want, samples.

I know that Gretsch kit, and it is, in fact, a great souding drum kit.
Hi Matt!
Ben

Matt Grondin · 12th February 2007

Hey Ben, you checking up on all the stupid questions I'm asking around here? See, if you'd just let me be your intern then I wouldn't have to ask all these questions. I'm still waiting to hear back from ya on that stereo track mixing question. I know you're a busy man though. Be well.

studilaroche · 12th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by dobby12

Hey Ben, you checking up on all the stupid questions I'm asking around here? See, if you'd just let me be your intern then I wouldn't have to ask all these questions. I'm still waiting to hear back from ya on that stereo track mixing question. I know you're a busy man though. Be well.

Only some of your stupid questions!

I'll give you a call.
Ben

Brad McGowan · 12th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by dobby12

Thanks, but I'll pass. I have an amazing vintage Gretsch kit with the best drummers in town... I do not need, nor want, samples.

Not to get off topic here...but does anyone make samples that don't sound like the latest modern rock chart topper? I mean no disrepect to Bang and his producdt, but I'm talking about kicks that go "boom" and don't sound like a wet fish slapping me in the face.

Brad

11th February 2007	#1
Matt Grondin I like lamp Joined: Jul 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 1,402 Thread Starter	Is kick/snare multing overkill if doing whole kit parallel compression also? The title says it all. I haven't really done a lot of multing, although I would think that it would be an easy way to compress and gate the donkey balls out of your kick and snare whilst still preserving the tone of the original source. I guess it's similar in ways, but in parallel comping, you're obviously treating the kit as a whole and gating would be rather pointless. Thoughts? Anyone here radical enough to do individual comps on kick/snare/toms, drum buss compression, parallel compression, and mults? Talk about overkill. __________________ Matt Grondin The Parlor Recording Studio New Orleans, LA http://www.theparlorstudio.com http://www.facebook.com/theparlorstudio matt@theparlorstudio.com Follow our build!: http://tinyurl.com/8yzrt8v

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Jason Poulin Lives for gear Joined: Sep 2003 Location: Sudbury, On. Canada Posts: 1,780	no man... it's actually all part of the game! I think as multing is for getting the sound I am looking for without over processing the one track and parralele compression is for the punch in the chest. Jason __________________ If it don't sound like a record... don't press record

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superburtm Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2005 Location: LOS ANGELES Posts: 3,602	I don't think its overkill I do it quite often.thumbsup

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Jack Ruston Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2002 Location: Brighton UK Posts: 1,095	No...It's never overkill. Mult away. And then mult again for good measure! J

11th February 2007	#4
ewillo Gear interested Joined: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12	I have to agree - never overkill. I'll mult a kick twice usually. On one, compress the snot out of it and leave nothing but the attack. On the other, just try to get as much bass as I can - usually boosting the low's with a pultec and then compressing that. Then blend them back with the original sound to taste. Great way to beef up a kick and keep the integrity of the original sound.

11th February 2007	#6
chymer Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2005 Location: Sydney Posts: 734	get some stephen slate samples...man they are really great.

11th February 2007	#7
recall Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2006 Location: west wales Posts: 1,756	if it sounds good go with it. I often mult kick and snare to really dial it in with the rest of the drum sub.

12th February 2007	#11
Matt Grondin I like lamp Joined: Jul 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 1,402 Thread Starter	Hey Ben, you checking up on all the stupid questions I'm asking around here? See, if you'd just let me be your intern then I wouldn't have to ask all these questions. I'm still waiting to hear back from ya on that stereo track mixing question. I know you're a busy man though. Be well.