Somebody please help me before I throw my gear out the window!!!

[RadioBox]

Originally Posted by Sqye

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hey radiobox, even though drbill's words might have seemed a bit harsh,

he's right.

there's almost ALWAYS more to learn - especially HERE,
and judging from your posts thus far -
you are coming across like somwhat of a newbie.

i hardly think you would've caught michael wagener posting questions
on the same pretty basic connection issues.

however, drbill and many other here have offered you some good perspective and help,
whether or not you choose to see it that way or accept their help, graciously.

forget the ego - there's always MORE to learn,
especially, it sounds like, at your level.

and, hey, i'm no genius, i have LOTS to learn from these guys, as well.
this is only one of the main reasons to be here. (obviously, GS is ALSO a BLAST).

as soon as you reach geoff tanner, michael wagener, jim williams, etc. status,
then you can serve up your posts with a bit more f*ck you.

anyhoo, good luck, and remember, most of us ARE here to help,
even if you do sometimes get a little 'holier than thou' mixed in with the advice.

You're right. I've never been good with the "holier than thou" attitude, though. It's something I'm working on.

[Sqye]

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i hear you man - i know the feeling,

however, in the end, it's more important to find the answer to your problem,
than it is to be "right" or "cool".

you can go to a sportscar forum for that.

(hey, if you were Japanese 30 years ago,
you could've jumped off an office building after drbill told you off )

sometimes, part of the price of learning from experienced people
(who also might just happen to be willing to help you out),
is sliding the ego to the back burner.

i'll tell you straight up, i'm just greatful for the ridiculous amount
of knowledge, experience and resources in this data base,
in addition to the ABSOLUTE INSANITY here at GS.

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[midnightsun]

Originally Posted by raal

i'm not Radiobox but maybe you can help me:

yes.

sometimes.

varies alot, but i have PT Accel, G5, 2 X192s and 1 X 16X, folcrom and much outboard. sometimes do ITB, sometimes hybrid.

do you mean while connected to each other? many times there's plenty of gear off when it's not in use.

thanks.

PROBLEM-- Crappy, crappy sound coming from my console no matter what I did. The problem came and went and was a total ****ing mystery to me. I live in Alaska and we have "dirty" power so I falsely blamed that.
SOLUTION-- (just before everything went out the window)--
If a piece of equipment (e.g. tape deck or converters) is getting output from somewhere (e.g. console) and the device that it is feeding is turned off there can be a complex array of resistors and diodes that can result in distortion in the equipment feeding the device that is turned off. When the device (e.g. tape deck) is powered on the amplifiers then have bias and they become high impedance devices. For me this was a problem when I had equipment mult'd from my patchbay to devices that were turned off. My solution was to keep the receiving device turned on, or disconnect the device, or feed the device with a dummy patch cord. This was a very gratifying solution. It is of note that the one of device that was causing the problem was a high end piece of equipment. What threw me off was presuming that I had a grounding problem which is a problem that I have occasionally delt with.


PATCHBAY PROBLEMS-- 5 or so years ago I was getting mystery distortion from my setup. I always seemed to trace it to my patchbay. I would clean it and screw around with it and the problem came and went. My solution then was to literally tear the patchbay out and drop it off at the dump transfer station give away pile!!! The problem went away. Now I have Audio Accessory patch bays but I can't help but wonder if the original patch bay was okay and I unwitingly had a device turned off that was being fed a signal. On the other hand, they may have been a problem with the patch bay.

(disclaimer-- I am not a electronic tech and only know about the above because it was a problem I struggled with and fortunately others who were more knowledgable than I helped me out and give an explaination.)

[RadioBox]

Originally Posted by Sqye

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i hear you man - i know the feeling,

however, in the end, it's more important to find the answer to your problem,
than it is to be "right" or "cool".

you can go to a sportscar forum for that.

(hey, if you were Japanese 30 years ago,
you could've jumped off an office building after drbill told you off )

sometimes, part of the price of learning from experienced people
(who also might just happen to be willing to help you out),
is sliding the ego to the back burner.

i'll tell you straight up, i'm just greatful for the ridiculous amount
of knowledge, experience and resources in this data base,
in addition to the ABSOLUTE INSANITY here at GS.

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Oh, I've definitally soaked up a lot of great knowledge on here. I'm sure after getting flamed over tech things a couple more times I'll learn to deal with it a little better. Maybe I should do a post about starting a studio and needing to know the best way to spend my $300,000 budget on outboard to complement my mbox. Five minutes of that will definitally have me used to being talked down to. Or I could get a real job and get talked down to everyday while doing something I hate. What's the deal with the 30 years ago/japanese business men/rooftops thing? Maybe I am a noob because that was before I was born. They say it's how old you feel that's important, and I feel I should be on a fixed income.

[ImJohn]

Originally Posted by RadioBox

I actually tried that, with the same problem. I disconnected everything and rewired it, and everything was fine. I was probably just missing something that was staring me in the face. Now everything's working in perfect harmony.

Cool! Glad you got it working again.

[CorkyTart]

I'm a 'little person' and I dont screw donkeys, i have sex with ducks....

[Sqye]

Originally Posted by RadioBox

What's the deal with the 30 years ago/japanese business men/rooftops thing?

i'm just saying, it's not a big deal.....

in our culture, we tend to wave our 6 guns at people who offend us
(by showing us our inadaquacies)...

wheres, in other cultures, as for instance in older japanese culture,
one might commit hari cari after being spoken down to in a professional environment....

that's all.

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[uncle duncan]

Ducks? Do you work for AFLAC?
I had a similar problem. Right after I discovered that my motu cuemix software would allow multiple mixes for headphones. My talkback was routed into the HP mix, I muted channels 1&2 (default channels for monitoring inputs) and the talkback was still on! Oh my God! I thought I was losing my mind. Then I remembered cuemix was also sending talkback to 3 more stereo pairs that were still on. Duh!
I had a friend up in Idaho who had ducks. No girlfriend though.

[RadioBox]

Originally Posted by Sqye

i'm just saying, it's not a big deal.....

in our culture, we tend to wave our 6 guns at people who offend us
(by showing us our inadaquacies)...

wheres, in other cultures, as for instance in older japanese culture,
one might commit hari cari after being spoke down to in a professional environment....

that's all.

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I thought they disembowed themselves after being spoke down to in a professional environment. Jumping off a rooftop isn't a good way to restore your honor. Anyhoo, I've got about 1.23 million dollars to invest in a recording studio. I don't have any contacts, I've never recorded anyone, and I didn't know that tubes can go microphonic until today, but my friends are always impressed when I adjust the eq on their car stereos. I just need to know what to buy. Thanks!

ducks instead of donkeys, eh? interesting.

[Melodija]

Hello,

I have registered on gearslutz because I have the same problem:
Taping on table or ADL600 gives me the same sound from RadioBox's sample in first post. And I can hear buzz noise (50,100,150,200Hz...) on Ch2. On Ch1 there is no buzz noise, but there is much more of hiss noise (noise you hear on all other preamps when they are on full gain). On Ch2 there is also a lot of hiss, but less then Ch1.
Noise is inaudible when gain is at minimum. You can hear it on 25%. On 50% (what is minimum for SM7b when recording speach) is more then audible.
There is no problem when I use condenser mic that don't need much gain but recording speach with SM 7b is inposible because it needs a lot of gain.
Using line, problem is much less audible because less gain is used, but you can still hear hiss when you stop playback.
When there are NO CABLES ON INPUT, noise it THE SAME, only without mic, or line, or instrument signal.
I tried with ground lift (ADL600 screws on the back), different cables, different plug box...

ADL600 owners, help

RadioBox, did your problem ever come back? What did presonus support/dealer say?

Thanks.