How Do You Use Your Reflexion Filter?

montanasan · 7th February 2007

Just wondering what uses you've found for the SE Reflexion Filter? I've used it on vocals and today I'm going to use it while recording my Vox 4×12 cab. What do you do with yours?
joe.

warhead · 7th February 2007

I use it on cabs when I want to tighten up the room sound.

Some vocals too.

War

cramseur · 7th February 2007

Hmmm I think I'll try mine on guitar cab with a ribbon to close out some of the room on the back side of the fig-8.

**Riccardo** · 7th February 2007

Kick!

Veej007 · 8th February 2007

i don't have one, but it looks like it'd be great for getting really delicate, detailed vocals. slap an omni in there and scoot your vocalist in real close, then tighten up the reflexion filter so it's effectively cardioid again.

anyone tried this? does it work?

Bassace · 8th February 2007

i always put one in front of the drummers face so i dont get the grunting and snorting ruining the snare sound

montanasan · 8th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bassace

i always put one in front of the drummers face so i dont get the grunting and snorting ruining the snare sound

You should try one up each nostril. Much better results.

joe.

feyshay · 8th February 2007

It would seem pretty awkward to use with recording acoustic guitar. SDC mics too far away, too long to be effectively used within the Filter. I suppose you could close mic with an LDC and sit close to the filter.
Anybody have any success with using it with an acoustic guitar?

Engine Room · 8th February 2007

We've used ours for isolating speakers in cabinets, isolating kick-drums, wacky effects with room mics and of course for vocals.

It's pretty effective at getting rid of a lot of room noise if you need to track a vocal live with the band. The A/B between with and without was remarkable.

We got a Neutrik cable that bends at a 90 degree angle to give another inch or so with longer, front-address mics (57's etc) when you jam the thing in there. I also added a washer to the mic mount to add some stability on the slide rail.

All in all, this thing is tres-cool, and I'd like us to get another one.

Alas, our next purchase is going to be a dedicated isolating, balancing power transformer. The electric company has decided that our area is a test-market for the new wave of AC-based television and internet, and it causes a horrific "frying-bacon" sound system-wide.

Thanks IPL! tutt tutt

Bassace · 8th February 2007

actually i looked at one in a music store and i poked it a bit,it had a funny resonance
to me ..i mean it doesnt" ring " neutral its far to stiff..amyone else notice this colouration or is this a problem?...i would be more concerned with the back wall reflections then the front ones anyway cos i can put up a piece of foam in the front if its a problem ....and its cheaper too

montanasan · 8th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bassace

actually i looked at one in a music store and i poked it a bit,it had a funny resonance
to me ..

Maybe they're not designed to be poked.
I find it has made a big difference in every application I have used it. I'm glad I have one and I may even get another.

Bassace · 8th February 2007

"Maybe they're not designed to be poked."

hahaha

sekim · 8th February 2007

BTW, I managed to come up with a much more sensible and balanced way to mount the thing on a stand using only the stock hardware but ditching a few pieces. I'll take a pic and post it if folks are interested.

feyshay · 8th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by sekim

BTW, I managed to come up with a much more sensible and balanced way to mount the thing on a stand using only the stock hardware but ditching a few pieces. I'll take a pic and post it if folks are interested.

Please do.

Engine Room · 8th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by sekim

BTW, I managed to come up with a much more sensible and balanced way to mount the thing on a stand using only the stock hardware but ditching a few pieces. I'll take a pic and post it if folks are interested.

Yes, please do!

sekim · 8th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engine Room

Yes, please do!

No problem, I'll do it tonight.

sekim · 9th February 2007

Here's some pics of how I mounted mine:

http://skitron.oplink.net/SNAG-1.gif

http://skitron.oplink.net/SNAG-2.gif

It's alot less prone to tip over and it's easier to adjust.

Plus no problems putting up a popfilter in the normal way...

Johnkenn · 9th February 2007

BTW - I'm selling my Reflection Filter for $175.00 if anybody wants one...mint condition - PM me if interested...

burst · 9th February 2007

We've used ours on the back side of ribbons for guitar cabs, and to cut room ambience from room mics (um, that didn't work out so well... or it worked REALLY well, I should say, but it defeated the purpose of the room mic, I guess).

Just did a project where we tracked all the lead vocals in the control rooom, live, with speakers on (no phones). Korby mic, right in the middle of the room, tons of rock n roll vibe on the takes, and the bleed was really manageable. It really allowed the singer to feel less like he was in a studio, more like he was performing. I know cutting vocals in the control room isn't ground breaking, but the Reflexion Filter worked surprisiingly well to help cut the band from the vocal track.

Omicron_9 · 9th February 2007

Greetings.

Has anyone tried using one in a M/S or Blumlein setup?

Regards,
-0.9

Engine Room · 10th February 2007

That's an interesting idea, I'll get right on it!

Oh, and thanks Sekim for the pics, I just woke up and I'm trying to figure out what parts are missing.

vodka gimli · 11th February 2007

Well, I bought johnkenn's Reflexion Filter today and used it tonight on three fiddle overdubs and two backing vocals. A definite improvement over the tracks I did in the same room without treatment. Lovin' it so far.

tomlee · 2nd August 2010

Has anyone had comparative experience of comparing the Pro and the Project Studio Version. The project version is half the price.

Is it worth the extra for the Pro ?

What are the differences
Build Quality? Absorption ? Portability/Lightness of construction?

Thanks

phas3d · 3rd August 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bassace

i always put one in front of the drummers face so i dont get the grunting and snorting ruining the snare sound

ROFL

7th February 2007	#1
montanasan Gear addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: West Coast of Scotland Posts: 339 Thread Starter	How Do You Use Your Reflexion Filter? Just wondering what uses you've found for the SE Reflexion Filter? I've used it on vocals and today I'm going to use it while recording my Vox 4×12 cab. What do you do with yours? joe.

7th February 2007	#2
warhead Jai guru deva om Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 11,910	I use it on cabs when I want to tighten up the room sound. Some vocals too. War __________________ Warren Dent - Owner of: www.ZenProAudio.com Where You Get Gear Now & Zen Email via Gearslutz

7th February 2007	#3
cramseur Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cedarhurst, NY USA Posts: 1,095	Hmmm I think I'll try mine on guitar cab with a ribbon to close out some of the room on the back side of the fig-8. __________________ :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: "I am the source." - The Real MC Powerman has spoken!

8th February 2007	#6
Bassace Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 181	i always put one in front of the drummers face so i dont get the grunting and snorting ruining the snare sound __________________ even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and again........ Fletcher

9th February 2007	#19
burst Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 283	We've used ours on the back side of ribbons for guitar cabs, and to cut room ambience from room mics (um, that didn't work out so well... or it worked REALLY well, I should say, but it defeated the purpose of the room mic, I guess). Just did a project where we tracked all the lead vocals in the control rooom, live, with speakers on (no phones). Korby mic, right in the middle of the room, tons of rock n roll vibe on the takes, and the bleed was really manageable. It really allowed the singer to feel less like he was in a studio, more like he was performing. I know cutting vocals in the control room isn't ground breaking, but the Reflexion Filter worked surprisiingly well to help cut the band from the vocal track. __________________ Daniel Holter "After silence that which expresses the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley

7th February 2007	#4
Riccardo Mastering Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Always on the Run Posts: 2,570	Kick!

8th February 2007	#5
Veej007 Gear nut Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 100	i don't have one, but it looks like it'd be great for getting really delicate, detailed vocals. slap an omni in there and scoot your vocalist in real close, then tighten up the reflexion filter so it's effectively cardioid again. anyone tried this? does it work?

8th February 2007	#8
feyshay Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,359	It would seem pretty awkward to use with recording acoustic guitar. SDC mics too far away, too long to be effectively used within the Filter. I suppose you could close mic with an LDC and sit close to the filter. Anybody have any success with using it with an acoustic guitar?

8th February 2007	#9
Engine Room Gear nut Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 116	We've used ours for isolating speakers in cabinets, isolating kick-drums, wacky effects with room mics and of course for vocals. It's pretty effective at getting rid of a lot of room noise if you need to track a vocal live with the band. The A/B between with and without was remarkable. We got a Neutrik cable that bends at a 90 degree angle to give another inch or so with longer, front-address mics (57's etc) when you jam the thing in there. I also added a washer to the mic mount to add some stability on the slide rail. All in all, this thing is tres-cool, and I'd like us to get another one. Alas, our next purchase is going to be a dedicated isolating, balancing power transformer. The electric company has decided that our area is a test-market for the new wave of AC-based television and internet, and it causes a horrific "frying-bacon" sound system-wide. Thanks IPL! tutt tutt

8th February 2007	#13
sekim Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 363	BTW, I managed to come up with a much more sensible and balanced way to mount the thing on a stand using only the stock hardware but ditching a few pieces. I'll take a pic and post it if folks are interested.

9th February 2007	#18
Johnkenn Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nashville Posts: 3,810	BTW - I'm selling my Reflection Filter for $175.00 if anybody wants one...mint condition - PM me if interested...

9th February 2007	#20
Omicron_9 Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA Posts: 736	Greetings. Has anyone tried using one in a M/S or Blumlein setup? Regards, -0.9 __________________ "Signature-line free since 2004!"

10th February 2007	#21
Engine Room Gear nut Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 116	That's an interesting idea, I'll get right on it! Oh, and thanks Sekim for the pics, I just woke up and I'm trying to figure out what parts are missing.

11th February 2007	#22
vodka gimli Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 592	Well, I bought johnkenn's Reflexion Filter today and used it tonight on three fiddle overdubs and two backing vocals. A definite improvement over the tracks I did in the same room without treatment. Lovin' it so far. __________________ "Directly or indirectly, all questions connected with this subject must come for decision to the ear, as the organ of hearing; and from it there can be no appeal." — Lord Rayleigh

2nd August 2010	#23
tomlee Gear addict Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 408	Has anyone had comparative experience of comparing the Pro and the Project Studio Version. The project version is half the price. Is it worth the extra for the Pro ? What are the differences Build Quality? Absorption ? Portability/Lightness of construction? Thanks

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