Guitar splitting again...

AlexLakis · 7th February 2007

I'm looking for a guitar signal splitting solution for multiple amping/DI. I know this has been covered a couple of times, but I have a few questions:

How can I use the Sansamp Bass Driver DI for this? Can I run it "naked" and split it 3 ways at a time (or two ways "clean" and one "sansampified?") What would the sonic implications of this maneuver be?

Also, what's the difference between the Sansamp Bass Driver DI and the Sansamp Para Driver DI?

Would the SmartGuitar DI be a better solution? I figure if the Sansamp could do it, I'd go for that since I could always use it for it's amp features (plus, it's cheaper!) I don't want to compromise Johnny McNo-Tone's signal, tho...

What do you guys think?

P.S. Please don't suggest the JD-7 or PCP, those things are over $1,000, and that's just insane.

DeathMonkey · 7th February 2007

I will once again tout the mighty Voodoo Labs Amp Switcher. Ground lifts, powered to buffer the signal, and level controls for each of the four outs, as well as a dedicated tuner out.

$229 at MF

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/produ...tor?sku=153512

AlexLakis · 7th February 2007

Hey, thanks, DM! That one slipped thru the cracks in my previous search! So, no hum/gremlins/etc. with all 4 running, huh?

**James Lugo** · 7th February 2007

I've been using the Voodoo Labs all day, it's flawless!!!!

AlexLakis · 7th February 2007

Good looking out, James! I'm glad you got this issue solved for yourself as well! Sounds like a winner.

Still interested in the answers to the Sansamp questions for posterity's sake.

WidgetNinja · 7th February 2007

I believe MW's new box does this, with extras.

There's the whole Radial line too, which is what I use. When I record though, I run direct, back out of the sound card to the reamp, to the amp for monitoring. Then I just replay the track into different amps. If I had more reamps, I'd just do the same thing.

allencollins · 7th February 2007

how's the redeye?

AlexLakis · 11th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexLakis

How can I use the Sansamp Bass Driver DI for this? Can I run it "naked" and split it 3 ways at a time (or two ways "clean" and one "sansampified?") What would the sonic implications of this maneuver be?

Also, what's the difference between the Sansamp Bass Driver DI and the Sansamp Para Driver DI?

Bump on this (and Allen's Red-Eye query)

Unclenny · 11th February 2007

Voodoo Labs>>>> Carvin VT112 + Fender Blues Jr. + Fender Deluxe 112 + Peavey Classic 30

DeathMonkey · 11th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexLakis

Hey, thanks, DM! That one slipped thru the cracks in my previous search! So, no hum/gremlins/etc. with all 4 running, huh?

I've had pretty good luck with it so far. It's also nice if I know I am going to use certain amps in a session, even if not all at once - I don't get hum if I have three amps connected, and only one of them on, for example. I have pretty dirty power, but it keeps the sludge to a minimum for me.

I'm still tempted to get the Radial 7 output jobby (or whatever it is) and basically hook all my main amps to it, use it kinda like a big guitar patch bay

I'm using the Radial passive A/B in my live rig (wet/dry pair of VHT 100/CLs) and it works really well, too.

24 I/O · 4th April 2012

How about splitting the signal with-out any volume pots or anything? Can it be done with a simple "Y" cable? Or will that create noise or just not work?

I'm looking for a very basic way of doing this, out-put of a stomp-box to 2 amp's that don't have any line out's or pre-out's.

I don't have a lot of cash to spend on this but I have made more cable's than I care to admit.

Thanks for help.

nedorama · 4th April 2012

I have the Radial Bigshot ABY switch. Passive, has iso transformer in case of ground issues with the 2 amps as well as phase reverse. Sound is transparent - a good thing. built like the rest of Radial's line like a tank.

$80 new.

Mine is on the top left next to the Voodoo Lab Pedal Power. Goes out to usually the Bandmaster and the Dr. Z.

Graham Tobias · 4th April 2012

I've used this box before with positive results. Tonebone Switchbone - introduction It's a radial box.

frans · 4th April 2012

Boxes from Palmer, either the two-way split
Splitter for Guitars
or
Amp Selector

You want something with a transformer in it to stay avoid ground loops. Polarity switch doesn't hurt either.

Fletcher · 4th April 2012

Did any of you guys notice that the OP's issue happened 5 years ago? I think he's probably found the appropriate Littlelabs device in that time...

nedorama · 4th April 2012

the dreaded zombie thread. Sorry Fletcher; only saw the post above mine.

motone · 5th April 2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by nedorama

I have the Radial Bigshot ABY switch. Passive, has iso transformer in case of ground issues with the 2 amps as well as phase reverse. Sound is transparent - a good thing. built like the rest of Radial's line like a tank.

$80 new.

Mine is on the top left next to the Voodoo Lab Pedal Power. Goes out to usually the Bandmaster and the Dr. Z.

I second that - a great little device, and the one thing that always helps when there's any hum / ground issues ... not just when 2 amps are hooked up .. have 3 in the studio, and carry one now for liveshows as well

fastlanestoner · 5th April 2012

Voodoo labs is great. The tonebone amp switcher is a good one too, not sure if it's the same company.

7th February 2007	#1
AlexLakis Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2005 Location: Annapolis, MD/Los Angeles, CA Posts: 3,631 Thread Starter	Guitar splitting again... I'm looking for a guitar signal splitting solution for multiple amping/DI. I know this has been covered a couple of times, but I have a few questions: How can I use the Sansamp Bass Driver DI for this? Can I run it "naked" and split it 3 ways at a time (or two ways "clean" and one "sansampified?") What would the sonic implications of this maneuver be? Also, what's the difference between the Sansamp Bass Driver DI and the Sansamp Para Driver DI? Would the SmartGuitar DI be a better solution? I figure if the Sansamp could do it, I'd go for that since I could always use it for it's amp features (plus, it's cheaper!) I don't want to compromise Johnny McNo-Tone's signal, tho... What do you guys think? P.S. Please don't suggest the JD-7 or PCP, those things are over $1,000, and that's just insane.

7th February 2007	#2
DeathMonkey Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 832	I will once again tout the mighty Voodoo Labs Amp Switcher. Ground lifts, powered to buffer the signal, and level controls for each of the four outs, as well as a dedicated tuner out. $229 at MF http://www.musiciansfriend.com/produ...tor?sku=153512 __________________ Screaming Monkey Studio - Seattle, WA teebes on Soundclick www.MySpace.com/djteebalicious www.MySpace.com/thissoilisdiseased

4th April 2012	#12
nedorama Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,242	I have the Radial Bigshot ABY switch. Passive, has iso transformer in case of ground issues with the 2 amps as well as phase reverse. Sound is transparent - a good thing. built like the rest of Radial's line like a tank. $80 new. Mine is on the top left next to the Voodoo Lab Pedal Power. Goes out to usually the Bandmaster and the Dr. Z. __________________ nedorama Monkey Boy Studios Summit 2BA-221, TLA-50 mBox Pro 3, Pro Tools 10.1.3 Radial JDI x 2, ProD2, ProRMP '65 Bandmaster 2x12 combo with Dr. Z Brake Lite, '65 Showman, '74 Princeton, '77 Princeton Reverb, Dr. Z. Mini Z Head, Dr. Z 1x12 Cab, pedals, George L's cabling

4th April 2012	#13
Graham Tobias Gear maniac Joined: Nov 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 281	I've used this box before with positive results. Tonebone Switchbone - introduction It's a radial box. __________________ Graham Tobias Chief Engineer/ Owner • GT Mobile Productions MediaStructura, Inc. Boston, MA http://www.grahamtobias.com graham@mediastructura.com

4th April 2012	#14
frans Lives for gear Joined: Sep 2004 Location: Bavaria, Germany Posts: 1,648 1 Review written	Boxes from Palmer, either the two-way split Splitter for Guitars or Amp Selector You want something with a transformer in it to stay avoid ground loops. Polarity switch doesn't hurt either. __________________ Property is not ability. Buying a drumset won't make you a drummer and buying gear won't make you an engineer.

7th February 2007	#4
James Lugo Moderator Joined: May 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 6,997	I've been using the Voodoo Labs all day, it's flawless!!!!

7th February 2007	#6
WidgetNinja Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 507	I believe MW's new box does this, with extras. There's the whole Radial line too, which is what I use. When I record though, I run direct, back out of the sound card to the reamp, to the amp for monitoring. Then I just replay the track into different amps. If I had more reamps, I'd just do the same thing.

7th February 2007	#7
allencollins 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended. Joined: Oct 2004 Location: Rosedale Cemetery Singing Beach, MA Posts: 4,873	how's the redeye?

11th February 2007	#9
Unclenny Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2007 Location: Terra Firma Posts: 6,366	Voodoo Labs>>>> Carvin VT112 + Fender Blues Jr. + Fender Deluxe 112 + Peavey Classic 30

4th April 2012	#11
24 I/O Gear interested Joined: Nov 2009 Location: Burlington, North Carolina USA Posts: 6	How about splitting the signal with-out any volume pots or anything? Can it be done with a simple "Y" cable? Or will that create noise or just not work? I'm looking for a very basic way of doing this, out-put of a stomp-box to 2 amp's that don't have any line out's or pre-out's. I don't have a lot of cash to spend on this but I have made more cable's than I care to admit. Thanks for help.

4th April 2012	#15
Fletcher member no 666 Joined: Jun 2002 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 10,110	Did any of you guys notice that the OP's issue happened 5 years ago? I think he's probably found the appropriate Littlelabs device in that time... __________________ CN Fletcher Professional Affiliations: R/E/P Professional Recording Engineer and Producer forums - serious hobbyists welcome SoundPure.com mwagener wrote on Sat, 11 September 2004 14:33 We are selling emotions, there are no emotions in a grid Roscoe Ambel once said: Pro-Tools is to audio what fluorescent is to light

5th April 2012	#18
fastlanestoner Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2010 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 1,753	Voodoo labs is great. The tonebone amp switcher is a good one too, not sure if it's the same company. __________________ Guitar/Backline Tech and Mobile Recording services in the Los Angeles area! New AEP site is up! Custom gear and cabling! Custom DAWs! Die-hard Phila Eagles fan!

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