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Old 23rd January 2004, 01:49 PM   #1
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Mytek v Apogee??

Firstly, my apologies if this has been done to death, but I'm new here, and I couldn't find anything this specific with a search.

I want a significant upgrade to the AD converters in my DIGI001.
95% of the time I'm only recording 1 or 2 tracks at a time, so a stereo unit is fine.

I've been looking at the Apogee Rosetta as it always seems to get good wraps. But I've seen a few people talking about how Mytek is now affordable.

It seems that I can get a Stereo96 ADC AND a Stereo96 DAC for about the same price or maybe a touch more than a Rosetta (which is ADC only).

How do these units compare? And if the Myteks are below the Rosetta, what other converters are around the Apogee quality?

Thanks for your time.

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Old 23rd January 2004, 06:06 PM   #2
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If you're going to do it you might as well do it right. Pre-order the new Apogee AD and DA 16X. That'll give you 16 channels in and out and the Big Ben clocking technology (Apogee's C777 clock). They are bar none, the best sounding converters ever produced in my opinion. Very reasonably priced too.

If you want something right this second and don't need 16 channels of I/O then the Apogee Rosetta 800 is the choice. 8 channels of I/O in one unit with the Intelliclock (add Big Ben into the mix and you'll be blown away). There is a choice of 96khz or 192khz on that unit with a little under a grand difference in price.

Nothing sounds as close to tape as the Apogee boxes. I love em.
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Old 23rd January 2004, 07:34 PM   #3
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A 001 system and the AD16 or DA16 would be next to useless together. Teh 001 only allows 8 channels of lightpipe I/O. As for the posters question, there are so many good converters on the market you probably will be happy with any 2 channel or 8 channel unit you purchase in the price class you are looking in.
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Old 23rd January 2004, 08:32 PM   #4
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If you're going to do it you might as well do it right. Pre-order the new Apogee AD and DA 16X. They are bar none, the best sounding converters ever produced in my opinion. Very reasonably priced too. Nothing sounds as close to tape as the Apogee boxes. I love em.

Okay. But then in a post summarized below also from today you admitted that you have not even heard them but that Apogee 'told' you they were the 'best'.

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I was told today by Apogee that they are the best sounding converters ever produced and they basically told their engineers to do whatever it took to make the absolute top converter on the planet. I haven't heard them yet but I've never been steered wrong with Apogee. Btw, you can





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Nothing sounds as close to tape as the Apogee boxes. I love em.
Of course you do, because its probably 20% of your income. I will betcha you have never heard Prism, Mytek, Benchmark, Lavry, dcs, Crane Song, or Manley or you would not be quite so adamant about the Apogee which you have not heard either by your own admission. Not that they are bad, but they are not god either. You are also doing them a disservice because the transparency of your biased comments in order to just sell stuff is embarrassing at best to you and them. Makes me not even want to give them a try.

I would not have noticed at all, but you proceeded to shit all over the board today with 12 out of your total 14 posts after Fletcher red-assed you over 4 months ago.

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Nice start I nominate you for a Darwin award.
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Old 23rd January 2004, 09:16 PM   #5
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I second the nomination, to bad we couldn't have caught this a generation earlier. Idiot!!
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Old 23rd January 2004, 10:49 PM   #6
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Pre-order the new Apogee AD and DA 16X. That'll give you 16 channels in and out and the Big Ben clocking technology (Apogee's C777 clock). They are bar none, the best sounding converters ever produced in my opinion. Very reasonably priced too.
How much are they list/street?

And: why does Apogee "force me" to buy 16 outs when I only need 2 or 4 or max 8 (but o the same quality)?
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Old 23rd January 2004, 11:16 PM   #7
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Jackassman:

My apologies. My post was worded incorrectly. That's what you get for typing too fast and not reading every little detail before posting. What I was getting at is I have heard the Rosetta 800 clocked with Big Ben and it sounds incredible (world's better than the PSX-100SE in fact, which was dissapointing because I use that unit everyday and now I'm going to have to buy some new toys). Apogee told me that AD and DA 16X units (which have not yet been released) sound night and day different than the Rosetta 800 and include Big Ben clocking right in the box. To me that would only mean that once again Apogee has outdone themselves and these new boxes are sure to amaze.

Sorry for the confusion.
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Old 23rd January 2004, 11:32 PM   #8
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This is all very interesting
but as my price limit it probably about the Rosetta (About $3200 aussie), I'd still like to know how the Rosetta compares to the Mytek Stereo96, or any other 2 channel converter in that price range.

I basically want the best quality for that sort of money. We are only talking about a backyard project studio here.

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Old 23rd January 2004, 11:44 PM   #9
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Mark:

The best thing to do is always let your ears decide. If you can, find a dealer in your area that can setup a listening test between the converters you are interested in. Make sure that all converters are calibrated to the exact same specs. Then record through each one and listen for yourself. When you have recorded everything close your eyes and let someone else play you the tracks (out of order so you don't associate tracks with converters) and be the judge for yourself. The one that sounds the best to you is the one you should purchase.

nativeaudio: the estimated list price on the new ad and da 16x is $3495 which means street price will be somewhere in the neighborhood of $3145.50
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Old 24th January 2004, 12:11 AM   #10
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I'd love to compare myself, but the biggest hurdle for me there is that I live about 2.5 hours drive from Melbourne and there is no one closer who would stock this kind of thing.

Also, I can't even find an Australian distributor for Mytek, so I'd have to buy online.
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Old 24th January 2004, 12:20 AM   #11
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In terms of outboard A/D the best that you can buy right now for under $1k is the Mytek. It is a very nice converter. We make a two channel A/D as well but it is just a bit more money and has more features, some of which you may not need. Good luck with your search!!
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Old 24th January 2004, 02:41 AM   #12
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so atticus,

when will we see reviews of the adc-1 pre?
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Old 24th January 2004, 03:05 AM   #13
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so atticus,

when will we see reviews of the adc-1 pre?
As soon as it's ready, and no sooner. It's gonna be the best and very much worth the wait.
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Old 24th January 2004, 09:28 AM   #14
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sorry guys... but id recommend the WAVES L2 Hardware

if you are looking for a cheap good stereo solution, stick with it, and its a good limiter either...

you can use the aes ebu out for the L2, i just dont know if 001 has aes ebu inputs... just y 2 cents
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