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[loke]

I am looking for some mics for toms and was thinking about the Studio Projects B1.

What do you use for toms? Anyone have any comment on the Studio Projects B1´s ?

ALEX

[ozraves]

They'll do OK.

[loke]

Would it be better than a MD 421 or a SM 57 for Rock recordings ???

[drundall]

I actually like 421's for toms. They'll need some EQ. The B1's might get you a little more cymbal bleed, if you care about that. I guess everyone mutes the tom tracks these days...

[jdier]

I have multiple SM57's, Beta 57's and B1's. For toms I have chose the SM57's. I instead use the B1's for rooms on a kit.

Hope this helps.

If you would like to hear the results using B1's as rooms, Oktavas 012 for overhead, SM57 for snare, Beta57 for bottom of snare, Beta 52 + SM57 for kick, you can hear it here:

More of a country sound:
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/2/da...ybandmusic.htm

Hope this is of some use.

B1's also used on some of the acoustic guitar work.

[fatty]

b1's sound great on toms.

[Brad McGowan]

I think the B1's are pretty decent tom mics. I also use 421's as well. I would say the B1 has a bigger, larger than life sound, with more of a detailed attack when used for close-miking toms. The 421's seem to accentuate more of the thud and boom. What a crappy description. Here's an MP3 (not the best sounding one unfortunately) where B1's were used on toms through a John Hardy mic preamp...it was a maple Ludwig kit with coated Ambassadors:

http://www.marismatheband.com/marisma-smokescreen.mp3

You can hear tom fills right at the beginning (0:02) and around 1:46-1:53.

Hope that helps,
Brad

[Scinx]

Nice job Brad. Couple questions: What kind of snare was used, what mic did you use on snare, what compressor did you use...I liked the drums

[BradD]

Just a correction from Lomola's post above. Dan Richards (aka Dot) is the Listening Session's guy, whereas Dan Kennedy makes the Great River pres.

[jeronimo]

Originally posted by jdier
I have multiple SM57's, Beta 57's and B1's. For toms I have chose the SM57's. I instead use the B1's for rooms on a kit.

Hope this helps.

If you would like to hear the results using B1's as rooms, Oktavas 012 for overhead, SM57 for snare, Beta57 for bottom of snare, Beta 52 + SM57 for kick, you can hear it here:

More of a country sound:
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/2/da...ybandmusic.htm

Hope this is of some use.

B1's also used on some of the acoustic guitar work.

I liked the song better than the toms w/ B1s

[Brad McGowan]

Originally posted by Scinx
Nice job Brad. Couple questions: What kind of snare was used, what mic did you use on snare, what compressor did you use...I liked the drums

Thanks. The snare was a Ludwig Black Beauty with a coated Ambassador on top. I'm pretty sure that it was miked with an SM57, but it may have been a Radio Shack 33-3032 (don't laugh--yeah the ones that look like clip-on Sennheiser drum mics). I would have to double check. The compressor is called an Altec 1589B mic preamp. I neglected to use a pad, so the mic preamp got super crunchy and really clipped the snare a LOT. So I didn't have to use a compressor at all really to control the level. The Altec really adds some grit and presence to snares that I like. During mixdown, however, I started regretting my super crunchified snare sound, so I tried to restore some snap with a UAD EX-1 channel strip compressor plugin (4:1 ratio, attack=40 ms) and a transient shaper plugin called Dominion which is free at Digitalfishphones. Then there was a little EQ and that was about it. The rest of the snare sound comes from the overheads which was a Royer SF12 through an API.

To be honest I felt like I kind of botched those drums between the Altec level setting mishap and my choice of D112 for kick. I swear that's the last time I'll ever use that mic on kick again.

Brad

[jeronimo]

Brad, are you playing in Marisma or did you just record them?

[Brad McGowan]

Yes, I did the recording. I do not play in Marisma, although they are my friends and I did contribute a couple guitar tracks and background vox on the recording. They practice in my studio.

Brad

[jeronimo]

That's a nice band...
I never heard a singer sound that much like Page Hamilton!!!
I like that!

[Brad McGowan]

Well I'll have to pass the compliment along to the band. I'm sure he would appreciate that.

Brad