how much gain in 3124?

13th January 2004, 09:37 AM

they say it uses the same stuff as in the consoles, but the consoles have a trimmer and a fader. so how much gain? enough for a ribbon even?

picksail · 13th January 2004, 10:11 AM

65 db. Plenty of gain for ribbons, if you consider about 55db to be optimal.

13th January 2004, 10:26 AM

that gain is all in one knob right? i cant find a high res picture, but i dont think i see any trimmer...

just curious

picksail · 13th January 2004, 10:39 AM

Yeah, just one knob. Also includes: -20db pad, 48v Phantom power, polarity invert and direct in buttons. This is truly a great peice of gear. It is amazing on just about anything. It really shines on drum overheads. For a seemingly utopian overhead set-up, let me offer you my 'typical' signal chain: AEA R84(figure 8)(Blumlein w/baffle)>API>Distressors (set to NUKE). Very simple but effective. The API inherently have a very smooth top end and matched with a pair of AEA R84 it is pure bliss.

ZEUSS · 13th January 2004, 06:20 PM

Tons of gain. Even with the pad engaged on a snare drum i cant even go past 11' O clock on it.

13th January 2004, 09:32 PM

excellent. im excited about trying it out.

gem · 14th January 2004, 09:39 PM

hi picksail
have you compared them?
would be interesting.

NathanEldred · 14th January 2004, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gem
hi picksail
have you compared them?
would be interesting.

Yep. Quite different microphones. Aside from differences in the way they handle the transients (R84 is a longer thinner ribbon) the R84 tends to have more in the low end (not just in proximity either), and less in the higher mid area (1-3k). Both are excellent microphones, and are useful in the same mic locker. If you want something to be made more mellow they will both work well, the Royer will sound more upfront and in your face, the AEA R84 will be more linear and flat sounding in the high mids with a very fat low end so it doesn't come at you as much. If you don't want to have as "euphonic" a sound as the R84, and also don't want the high mid rise of the 121, there is a middle ground, found in the Royer SF-1/SF-12. It's probably the most "accurate" sounding ribbon I've heard, in a way it's like splitting the difference between the 121 and R84.

frist44 · 14th January 2004, 10:08 PM

very helpful nathan. I have an r121 and was thinking about checking out the r84 sometime, but it seems like I would be more worthwhile to get a second r121 to have a pair. I hope to one day have a sf-12, that would be lovely. I do mostly rock stuff and like the agressive sound of the r121, easily the best one mic guitar sounds I've ever gotten

thanks,
Brandon

Jason Poulin · 16th January 2004, 01:52 AM

LOTS!

Jay

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chikkenguy Guest Posts: n/a	how much gain in 3124? they say it uses the same stuff as in the consoles, but the consoles have a trimmer and a fader. so how much gain? enough for a ribbon even?

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13th January 2004, 10:11 AM	#2
picksail Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 3,326	65 db. Plenty of gain for ribbons, if you consider about 55db to be optimal.

13th January 2004, 10:26 AM	#3
chikkenguy Guest Posts: n/a	that gain is all in one knob right? i cant find a high res picture, but i dont think i see any trimmer... just curious

13th January 2004, 10:39 AM	#4
picksail Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 3,326	Yeah, just one knob. Also includes: -20db pad, 48v Phantom power, polarity invert and direct in buttons. This is truly a great peice of gear. It is amazing on just about anything. It really shines on drum overheads. For a seemingly utopian overhead set-up, let me offer you my 'typical' signal chain: AEA R84(figure 8)(Blumlein w/baffle)>API>Distressors (set to NUKE). Very simple but effective. The API inherently have a very smooth top end and matched with a pair of AEA R84 it is pure bliss.

13th January 2004, 06:20 PM	#5
ZEUSS Gear addict Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 352	Tons of gain. Even with the pad engaged on a snare drum i cant even go past 11' O clock on it.

13th January 2004, 09:32 PM	#6
chikkenguy Guest Posts: n/a	excellent. im excited about trying it out.

14th January 2004, 10:08 PM	#9
frist44 Gear addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: West Chester, PA Posts: 488	very helpful nathan. I have an r121 and was thinking about checking out the r84 sometime, but it seems like I would be more worthwhile to get a second r121 to have a pair. I hope to one day have a sf-12, that would be lovely. I do mostly rock stuff and like the agressive sound of the r121, easily the best one mic guitar sounds I've ever gotten thanks, Brandon