Hanging a cloud without putting hooks in a ceiling

audiovisceral · 15th January 2007, 09:41 PM

I own many Ready Acoustics acoustic panels (2'x4') which I find quite helpful in recording. Since I am still in school and thus in my parents basement (which is very well appointed), I am limited in my options for placing hooks. I find leaning my bass/hf traps against the walls does well enough rather than hanging them. However, I am having difficulty finding a non-destructive way to use any of the 2" panels as clouds above my drums and baby grand piano as well.

Obviously I can't have the things fall on either instrument, so I need the solution to be relatively stable. My best idea has been either to use a boom cymbal or mic stand, weight the bass with circular dumbell weights (as I do with my overheads), tighten the joints as much and set as high as I can, using a mic clip or other fastener as a hook to hang the panel from.

I am not sure if there are better or more obvious ways to go about this. I am hoping before I really go with this I could get some pointers or approaches I could give a go with instead.

Thanks.

shangoe · 15th January 2007, 10:23 PM

maybe this could help you. take a look at my thread about basstraps. as you can see the cloud is fixed to the side wall not the cealing, because its not stable enough. i was able to mount this cloud alone with no help. the position can be adjusted with screws....it wont work with a room which is not high enough, mine is 3,20meters but 2,50 would be ok...

my insprirations for DIY basstrap builders

mute pink · 15th January 2007, 10:28 PM

I'm going to have to figure out a way to do this pretty soon too. I was thinking about using the springloaded things you hang curtains on but just extending them so they are long enough for my room. Just put a few above whatever and lay the panels on top. It would be easy to move around and try out differnt spots too. I haven't figured out how I will get it to work yet but when I do I will try to remember to take pictures and post them.

pkautzsch · 15th January 2007, 11:11 PM

A more stable version of those springloaded curtain things is used in film&tv lighting. Google "auto-pole" - that's where I've seen 4 2.5kW lamps suspended from. should work out nicely.

CrazyBeast · 15th January 2007, 11:21 PM

I use these now, so I don't have to permanently mount things...

http://modtrap.com

uncle duncan · 15th January 2007, 11:42 PM

Visualize a kids swingset - A-frame on each end with a bar across the top. You could do that with 2X4's (painted black, of course) and it would probably cost you about $15. It would be like building a 7 foot high sawhorse. You could stand on a chair to mount your panels, and then you and the drummer get on each end and move it into position. Put a couple of nails in it and you've got places to hang your cords and your headphones.

MATTI · 15th January 2007, 11:55 PM

Yep, Autopoles by Ianiro and the like, not cheap but versitale.
In general these light stands etc. are practical for sound purposes also,
i.e. very high stands for classical or making a quick booth with the help
of these Autopoles and some acoustic materials etc.
Regards
Matti

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15th January 2007, 09:41 PM	#1
audiovisceral Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 836	Hanging a cloud without putting hooks in a ceiling I own many Ready Acoustics acoustic panels (2'x4') which I find quite helpful in recording. Since I am still in school and thus in my parents basement (which is very well appointed), I am limited in my options for placing hooks. I find leaning my bass/hf traps against the walls does well enough rather than hanging them. However, I am having difficulty finding a non-destructive way to use any of the 2" panels as clouds above my drums and baby grand piano as well. Obviously I can't have the things fall on either instrument, so I need the solution to be relatively stable. My best idea has been either to use a boom cymbal or mic stand, weight the bass with circular dumbell weights (as I do with my overheads), tighten the joints as much and set as high as I can, using a mic clip or other fastener as a hook to hang the panel from. I am not sure if there are better or more obvious ways to go about this. I am hoping before I really go with this I could get some pointers or approaches I could give a go with instead. Thanks.

15th January 2007, 11:11 PM	#4
pkautzsch Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 992	A more stable version of those springloaded curtain things is used in film&tv lighting. Google "auto-pole" - that's where I've seen 4 2.5kW lamps suspended from. should work out nicely. __________________ Microphones always make me sound louder and better! -- Guitar Girl

15th January 2007, 11:21 PM	#5
CrazyBeast Gear addict Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 423	I use these now, so I don't have to permanently mount things... http://modtrap.com __________________ http://www.crazybeast.com http://www.myspace.com/crazybeaststudio

15th January 2007, 11:42 PM	#6
uncle duncan Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,933	Visualize a kids swingset - A-frame on each end with a bar across the top. You could do that with 2X4's (painted black, of course) and it would probably cost you about $15. It would be like building a 7 foot high sawhorse. You could stand on a chair to mount your panels, and then you and the drummer get on each end and move it into position. Put a couple of nails in it and you've got places to hang your cords and your headphones. __________________ "You're either with a native DAW, or you're with the terrorists." G.W. Busch Lite

15th January 2007, 10:23 PM	#2
shangoe Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: berlin Posts: 467	maybe this could help you. take a look at my thread about basstraps. as you can see the cloud is fixed to the side wall not the cealing, because its not stable enough. i was able to mount this cloud alone with no help. the position can be adjusted with screws....it wont work with a room which is not high enough, mine is 3,20meters but 2,50 would be ok... my insprirations for DIY basstrap builders

15th January 2007, 10:28 PM	#3
mute pink Gear nut Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 91	I'm going to have to figure out a way to do this pretty soon too. I was thinking about using the springloaded things you hang curtains on but just extending them so they are long enough for my room. Just put a few above whatever and lay the panels on top. It would be easy to move around and try out differnt spots too. I haven't figured out how I will get it to work yet but when I do I will try to remember to take pictures and post them.

15th January 2007, 11:55 PM	#7
MATTI Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 954	Yep, Autopoles by Ianiro and the like, not cheap but versitale. In general these light stands etc. are practical for sound purposes also, i.e. very high stands for classical or making a quick booth with the help of these Autopoles and some acoustic materials etc. Regards Matti

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