What guitar effect could this possibly be???!?!?!

CherryFive · 10th January 2007, 08:05 AM

I'm ripping my hair out trying to find out what this effect is. I've heard this guitar sound used about twice, both in the early `70s. The guitar player of Yes uses it on a certain record, and this band I just found out about called "Mellow Candle" uses it also. If there is any way, I would like for someone here to sample a song by this group, and listen to the effect on the guitar and inform me of what it is.
This might be more appropriate on some sort of guitar effect forum, but I couldn't find any that displayed the quality posters like this place has..and this pertains to recording because I'm desparate to track this effect down and record it!

The link below brings you to the Mellow Candle page at Progarchives which has a free streaming song. All you have to do is click on the "play" button. When the song starts, wait for about 10-15 seconds and the effect on the guitar comes in clearly in the right hand speaker. The song was recorded in 1972 so this effect or pedal is definitely quite old.

http://www.progarchives.com/Progress...sp?band_id=790

If anyone has any idea what this might be, please do let me know. Is this a chorus pedal?

Thank you

5down1up · 10th January 2007, 08:11 AM

sounds like a clean guitar picking with a chorus on stereoids and a ton of reverb to me. what they used for real ? i know the fulltone chorus can sound like this.

Santiago · 10th January 2007, 08:40 AM

Maybe it could also be a Leslie, sounds a bit like it.

Hope this helps

Santiago

CoteRotie · 10th January 2007, 08:58 AM

Another vote for the Leslie.

Regards,

John

Improv · 10th January 2007, 09:06 AM

Definitely a leslie... are you certain it's not an actual organ part... played very dynamically with volume swells and drawbar manipulation?

Sounds pretty dry on the right, delay with mono verb on the left. Like, retro maaaan.

If not an organ, it's certainly through a leslie whatever it is. Reminds me of The Doors, "Strange Days" quite a bit!

tINY · 10th January 2007, 09:19 AM

It's a leslie speaker - maybe mic'd in a stairwell....

The old Alesis quadraverb had a leslie simulator that was pretty good. I'd work in a pinch (or a denser mix).

-tINY

CherryFive · 10th January 2007, 09:24 AM

No shit?! A Leslie? Wow!

I appreciate all of your help !

Looks like I'll be buying or building a leslie. I had one, a cheap one built inside of poly/analog mid 70's hammond organ, but I got rid of it.

If I got one like this.... http://cgi.ebay.com/Leslie-Tremolo-U...QQcmdZViewItem .... and found a way to increase the motor speed I might just be able to get close. .

I have a 1973/74 Mutron Phaser pedal and when set to really high intensity and speed can actually sound kind of like this ....but this sound we're talking about seems to have a more "chorusy" sound to it...

Interesting stuff!
Thanks!

monkeyt · 10th January 2007, 01:55 PM

Fast Leslie
If you are really only looking for that sound
its pretty easy to obtain in a pedal
DanElectro Rocky Road
all the way up to some VERY expensive units
A really good chorus will get you there as well.

IMO its MUCH easier to replicate a fast leslie
in a pedal than the sound of sloooow leslie.

If you want to do slow, you HAVE TO HAVE a Leslie

This sound... not so much so

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10th January 2007, 08:05 AM	#1
CherryFive Gear nut Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 81	What guitar effect could this possibly be???!?!?! I'm ripping my hair out trying to find out what this effect is. I've heard this guitar sound used about twice, both in the early `70s. The guitar player of Yes uses it on a certain record, and this band I just found out about called "Mellow Candle" uses it also. If there is any way, I would like for someone here to sample a song by this group, and listen to the effect on the guitar and inform me of what it is. This might be more appropriate on some sort of guitar effect forum, but I couldn't find any that displayed the quality posters like this place has..and this pertains to recording because I'm desparate to track this effect down and record it! The link below brings you to the Mellow Candle page at Progarchives which has a free streaming song. All you have to do is click on the "play" button. When the song starts, wait for about 10-15 seconds and the effect on the guitar comes in clearly in the right hand speaker. The song was recorded in 1972 so this effect or pedal is definitely quite old. http://www.progarchives.com/Progress...sp?band_id=790 If anyone has any idea what this might be, please do let me know. Is this a chorus pedal? Thank you __________________ http://www.myspace.com/jjjoohhhhnnn

10th January 2007, 08:11 AM	#2
5down1up Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 1,355	sounds like a clean guitar picking with a chorus on stereoids and a ton of reverb to me. what they used for real ? i know the fulltone chorus can sound like this. __________________ http://www.kaiportolano.com http://www.myspace.com/kaiportolano

10th January 2007, 09:24 AM	#7
CherryFive Gear nut Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 81	No shit?! A Leslie? Wow! I appreciate all of your help ! Looks like I'll be buying or building a leslie. I had one, a cheap one built inside of poly/analog mid 70's hammond organ, but I got rid of it. If I got one like this.... http://cgi.ebay.com/Leslie-Tremolo-U...QQcmdZViewItem .... and found a way to increase the motor speed I might just be able to get close. . I have a 1973/74 Mutron Phaser pedal and when set to really high intensity and speed can actually sound kind of like this ....but this sound we're talking about seems to have a more "chorusy" sound to it... Interesting stuff! Thanks! __________________ http://www.myspace.com/jjjoohhhhnnn

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10th January 2007, 08:40 AM	#3
Santiago Gear nut Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 103	Maybe it could also be a Leslie, sounds a bit like it. Hope this helps Santiago

10th January 2007, 08:58 AM	#4
CoteRotie Gear addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 347	Another vote for the Leslie. Regards, John

10th January 2007, 09:06 AM	#5
Improv Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 1,367	Definitely a leslie... are you certain it's not an actual organ part... played very dynamically with volume swells and drawbar manipulation? Sounds pretty dry on the right, delay with mono verb on the left. Like, retro maaaan. If not an organ, it's certainly through a leslie whatever it is. Reminds me of The Doors, "Strange Days" quite a bit!

10th January 2007, 09:19 AM	#6
tINY Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 5,822	It's a leslie speaker - maybe mic'd in a stairwell.... The old Alesis quadraverb had a leslie simulator that was pretty good. I'd work in a pinch (or a denser mix). -tINY

10th January 2007, 01:55 PM	#8
monkeyt Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Denver Colorado Posts: 466	Fast Leslie If you are really only looking for that sound its pretty easy to obtain in a pedal DanElectro Rocky Road all the way up to some VERY expensive units A really good chorus will get you there as well. IMO its MUCH easier to replicate a fast leslie in a pedal than the sound of sloooow leslie. If you want to do slow, you HAVE TO HAVE a Leslie This sound... not so much so