design (planning) new 55 m2 studio. help with design.

ddanyboy · 8th January 2007, 01:52 PM

hï

have a new studio and soon we are going to do the planning and building. the studio is about 55 m2.

this is the studio without walls:

this is how we were thinking to build it:

you have to walk trough the small room(2 doors) to get to the bigger liveroom where the drums are. the room to the upper right is going to be a small kitchen.

the controlroom are 22 m2 and the drumroom 17 m2.
how does that look?
do you think the listening in the controlroom will be ok? Will ofcourse put in absorbers ers etc.

Thanks for reading this, help apriciate.

ddanyboy · 8th January 2007, 04:47 PM

if it looks ok, ideas of where to put bass traps, absorbers and diffusion are welcome! thanks

did i put it in the right forum btw?

Ozzy · 8th January 2007, 07:17 PM

Hi man.
Go over to John L Sayers forum;
http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/index.php

I think it will be more use.
Oh and to get you started, hes a rough sketch of an alt. layout.

Oz

Ethan Winer · 8th January 2007, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddanyboy

this is how we were thinking to build it

The problem as you drew it is there are corners behind the mix position and behind the drummer. Those focus the sound, which is not great. Ozzy's proposed layout is a good solution, though I'm not keen on the live room being so long and narrow. But it's not too bad. Also, if you do make both rooms side by side like that, be careful to plan the window placement so it doesn't end up at a first reflection point for the loudspeaker on that side.

--Ethan

ddanyboy · 8th January 2007, 09:24 PM

thanx for your replies! i was planning to make same bass traps to put in those corners. would that improve it?

Ozzy · 9th January 2007, 01:25 AM

I really think it would be better not to have those angles at the back of the cr room, with or without bass traps. Draw a line from the speaker and you.ll see that in your design the first reflection will come straight back at you head. Not good. On mine its pushed around the room, eventually to the back wall which you can treat. Im no expert tho so please take the above with a pinch of salt! Oz

ddanyboy · 9th January 2007, 01:30 AM

ok, i understand. thanks a lot!
the thing is that the budget are very limited and i dont want to loose space. therefore i cant affor building walls into the walls that are already there. i hope you understand my bad english.

i like your suggestion, but i would like the liveroom to be a little bit bigger (wider)

the upper room to the left is reserved for kitchen.

Thanks again, and if you have more suggestions please post!

Ozzy · 9th January 2007, 01:47 AM

My suggestion is go to the sayers forum and have a good read! :) If isolation is not an issue, there are loads of options, but tbh they've been covered so much on the sayers forum, your better off reading it yourself and understanding the strengths and weaknesses of each one, rather than waiting for someone to explain them all. Good luck with the studio. Oz

ddanyboy · 9th January 2007, 02:23 PM

hi
new suggestion here:

please tell me what you think. i like it. even though i made the controlroom smaller its more space.

thanks!

ddanyboy · 9th January 2007, 10:49 PM

and another one..
ive made the control room a little bit bigger. what do you think!?

thanks!

ddanyboy · 10th January 2007, 02:07 AM

btw, ive read a lot on John L Sayers forum now, but im having troubles with the language. therefore i just want confirmed that it looks good..

the last one are we (studio owners) happy about.

Ozzy · 12th January 2007, 03:25 PM

Looking much better

Make sure tho that the back and front wall are parrallel.

Oz

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8th January 2007, 01:52 PM	#1
ddanyboy Gear maniac Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 191	design (planning) new 55 m2 studio. help with design. hï have a new studio and soon we are going to do the planning and building. the studio is about 55 m2. this is the studio without walls: this is how we were thinking to build it: you have to walk trough the small room(2 doors) to get to the bigger liveroom where the drums are. the room to the upper right is going to be a small kitchen. the controlroom are 22 m2 and the drumroom 17 m2. how does that look? do you think the listening in the controlroom will be ok? Will ofcourse put in absorbers ers etc. Thanks for reading this, help apriciate.

8th January 2007, 07:17 PM	#3
Ozzy Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent UK Posts: 299	Hi man. Go over to John L Sayers forum; http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/index.php I think it will be more use. Oh and to get you started, hes a rough sketch of an alt. layout. Oz Attached Thumbnails

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8th January 2007, 04:47 PM	#2
ddanyboy Gear maniac Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 191	if it looks ok, ideas of where to put bass traps, absorbers and diffusion are welcome! thanks did i put it in the right forum btw?

8th January 2007, 09:24 PM	#5
ddanyboy Gear maniac Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 191	thanx for your replies! i was planning to make same bass traps to put in those corners. would that improve it?

9th January 2007, 01:25 AM	#6
Ozzy Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent UK Posts: 299	I really think it would be better not to have those angles at the back of the cr room, with or without bass traps. Draw a line from the speaker and you.ll see that in your design the first reflection will come straight back at you head. Not good. On mine its pushed around the room, eventually to the back wall which you can treat. Im no expert tho so please take the above with a pinch of salt! Oz

9th January 2007, 01:30 AM	#7
ddanyboy Gear maniac Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 191	ok, i understand. thanks a lot! the thing is that the budget are very limited and i dont want to loose space. therefore i cant affor building walls into the walls that are already there. i hope you understand my bad english. i like your suggestion, but i would like the liveroom to be a little bit bigger (wider) the upper room to the left is reserved for kitchen. Thanks again, and if you have more suggestions please post!

9th January 2007, 01:47 AM	#8
Ozzy Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent UK Posts: 299	My suggestion is go to the sayers forum and have a good read! :) If isolation is not an issue, there are loads of options, but tbh they've been covered so much on the sayers forum, your better off reading it yourself and understanding the strengths and weaknesses of each one, rather than waiting for someone to explain them all. Good luck with the studio. Oz

9th January 2007, 02:23 PM	#9
ddanyboy Gear maniac Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 191	hi new suggestion here: please tell me what you think. i like it. even though i made the controlroom smaller its more space. thanks!

9th January 2007, 10:49 PM	#10
ddanyboy Gear maniac Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 191	and another one.. ive made the control room a little bit bigger. what do you think!? thanks!

10th January 2007, 02:07 AM	#11
ddanyboy Gear maniac Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 191	btw, ive read a lot on John L Sayers forum now, but im having troubles with the language. therefore i just want confirmed that it looks good.. the last one are we (studio owners) happy about.

12th January 2007, 03:25 PM	#12
Ozzy Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent UK Posts: 299	Looking much better Make sure tho that the back and front wall are parrallel. Oz