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Describing tone: tweed deluxe vs. champ : breakup vs. kazoo
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25th April 2013
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Describing tone: tweed deluxe vs. champ : breakup vs. kazoo

Please bear with me: I love 5e3s. They rule. In some situations though, they may be too loud before breaking up. People have suggested a tweed champ as an even lower wattage alternative.

But to me there is a significant difference in tone in the two amps. To me the champ seems to be clean...then it just rolls over into being over-driven without a fight. It goes from clean to kazoo really fast. There's not much in between.

The tweed deluxe however seems to fight against being fully over-driven. It doesn't just roll over to kazoo tone. There is a long range where the break-up becomes greater as the amp is pushed harder. The tweed deluxe puts up more of a fight. It seems much more intense/powerful (and I'm not talking volume or wattage) .

Am I crazy? Am I full of it? Is this just part of the difference in wattage? or is there a real difference? Anyone?
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I'm betting the transformer has something to do with it? Not sure but I notice that too. You can get some great tones out of the tweed champ. The thing is there is no real substitute for a larger amp cranked. Not better or worse just different headroom.
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I've been using a Barber eq pedal with my tweed champ lately and I think it helps a bit. The tweed champs are a bit dark by nature. The eq brightens it up and seems to allow me to hear more detail before kazoo.
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....The eq brightens it up and seems to allow me to hear more detail before kazoo.
Interesting suggestion. I also saw Victoria makes one with a 12 inch speaker. I wonder if that might limit the kazoo effect.
Hmmmm
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