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24th April 2013
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Need a third amp

I have a jmp -79 Master volume 100w and a 6505, and i need another head for modern punk/rock/metal tone. But all the amps i find interesting costs a fortune, e.g Rivera KR100, bogner extacy. Are there other candidates with aprox same price level as 6505, or maybe a little higher?
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24th April 2013
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How 'bout Blackstar S-1 - the one with 6L6 tubes?

The 200 watter is probably overkill but it does sound "metal"

I really like the EL34 50 watter!
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25th April 2013
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Used Fender Bassman head. Handwired, 50 watts, easy for people to work on and you can make them scream stock or slightly modded. Silverface are cheaper and still work fine.
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25th April 2013
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Used Fender Bassman head. Handwired, 50 watts, easy for people to work on and you can make them scream stock or slightly modded. Silverface are cheaper and still work fine.
Fender for metal?? Seriously?
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25th April 2013
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Do you need the amp for recording or for gigs?
In case of recording, how about an amp with lower wattage, like a THD univalve? Swap tubes for different tones and you're good.
Doesn't the Peavey do a decent metal tone?
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25th April 2013
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Do you need the amp for recording or for gigs?
In case of recording, how about an amp with lower wattage, like a THD univalve? Swap tubes for different tones and you're good.
Doesn't the Peavey do a decent metal tone?
Mostly for recording but it doesn't hur if it is gig-able

Yes the Peavey does a fine job, but would be nice to have a similar
but different tone to put in the other speaker.

I find the jmp too grainy and too ac/dc-ish sometimes...
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25th April 2013
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The Jet City JCA 100HDM is a great Soldano-ish amp and the Bugera 333XL is another great high gain head for cheap.
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Mostly for recording but it doesn't hur if it is gig-able

Yes the Peavey does a fine job, but would be nice to have a similar
but different tone to put in the other speaker.

I find the jmp too grainy and too ac/dc-ish sometimes...
Hit the JMP with a tube screamer. Max the level, only a touch of drive. It'll get you to higher gain territory nicely.

For a third amp, I'd recommend the Laney GH50 head. It's in the Marshall tone territory, but with more gain and a killer crunch. It's very bright, so pair it with a dark cab and you're golden, pony boy. It can also be dialed in for a very nice clean tone if you need that too.
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Fender for metal?? Seriously?
Modern Punk and rock were listed first, which is what caught my eye - didn't even really see metal. That being said, OP already has a 6505 so yes a Fender would be different than the others, but at under $600 used I wouldn't discount it.
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Fender for metal?? Seriously?
Plus a lot of metal players like their sparkly cleans. I know I've seen a bunch of threads asking "what amp has Fender cleans and Marshal dirt". The answer is a Fender and a Marshall using a A/B pedal. Also, since they make such good pedal platforms, they're great for those guys who prefer to just run a clean amp with heavy distortion pedals.

The Mesa Dual Rec is always a popular choice. You might be able to find a used one that comes within budget.
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I will try my jmp with my TS, thx.

Arent those rectifiers hard to dial in?
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28th April 2013
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The rectos are only hard to dial in if you expect the controls to work the same as the Marshall.

Use your ears instead of your eyes while you turn the knobs and you'll be all good.
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You might be interested in the Blackstar or Egnater lineups, good sounding, modern and not too expensive amplifiers.
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30th April 2013
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The rectos are only hard to dial in if you expect the controls to work the same as the Marshall.

Use your ears instead of your eyes while you turn the knobs and you'll be all good.
Yeeh I suppose so but usually when I test a new amp i set all controls straight up (12 o clock) excpet master volume haha... and start there.
And in my experience different marshalls require different settings, my old jmp -79 wouldnt be set up like a jcm 2000....
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You might be interested in the Blackstar or Egnater lineups, good sounding, modern and not too expensive amplifiers.
Hmm tried both.. didnt impress me too much though
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If you find a used Framus Dragon, definitely check it out. The Cobra is more "metal' but the Dragon covers your needs. Great amp also based on the SLO design.

Only negative is they have tons of bottom end, which seems to be common with a lot of those high gain amps.
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If you can find... The Friedman modded Jet City amp sounds great and are cheap.

I bought a Peavey JSX some weeks ago, didn't have any expectations but got it dirt cheap. Sounds really great too for heavier music!

I'm also a big fan of amps modded by Tommy Folkesson here in Sweden, have tried and heard his Marshall MK VI mod, Laney Super PA 100 mod, and now latest with the tiny terror. They all sound superb! Search on youtube for clips.
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If you can find... The Friedman modded Jet City amp sounds great and are cheap.

I bought a Peavey JSX some weeks ago, didn't have any expectations but got it dirt cheap. Sounds really great too for heavier music!

I'm also a big fan of amps modded by Tommy Folkesson here in Sweden, have tried and heard his Marshall MK VI mod, Laney Super PA 100 mod, and now latest with the tiny terror. They all sound superb! Search on youtube for clips.
Yeah I have already made a boost channel mod att folkesson to my jmp, but i dont know about making the class a mod, too much money.
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I'd say not only the tubescreamer but also get a THD hotplate on that Marshall. I think that combination will get you what your looking for. Iron Maiden/Priest/Gorilla Biscuits can do those sounds. Cheaper than buying a third amp.
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So would the dual rec be a good partner for the 6505? Are there big differences on the old and new ones? Is a 90's a must?
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The early Mesa Rectifiers had a different saturated quality to the newer ones but they all deliver a rectifier sound. Personally I like the newer multi watt type. They're punchy and more transparent when driven which suits my taste. A TS boosting the preamp and an EQ in the loop and you're golden.
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I'm with cortisol on the recto designs as well; I think the newer amps sound tighter with less fizz on the top end...

If you are looking at the rectos, don't forget to check out the 25-watt mini. It might be a little under powered for giging, but it could be a killer studio amp (and it's a lot lighter on the wallet than the full sized version).


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I'm with cortisol on the recto designs as well; I think the newer amps sound tighter with less fizz on the top end...

If you are looking at the rectos, don't forget to check out the 25-watt mini. It might be a little under powered for giging, but it could be a killer studio amp (and it's a lot lighter on the wallet than the full sized version).


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Thx I will check it out, I'm actually going to sell my JMP -79, or is it a keeper? I dont use it much at all...
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