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Guitarist in the control room or in the live room?

How do you guys feel about the guitarist being in the control room vs live room? Too impersonal in the live room? Harmonic differences and/or lack of feedback?

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Harmonic differences and lack of feedback.
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really depends on what you are doing... I do a lot of work in the control room ... (me not my amp) but there are times when I need to be in the same room with the amp ...then I use earbuds and shooting range over ear protectors ... cuz that usually means LOUD
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I always prefer the guitarist in the control room if it's an overdub situation. If the bands playing together in the studio, I like to keep them all together out there. Usually get a more cohesive performance.

Personally, I do not like loud amps for recording, and it's been a while since feedback has been a necessity. If so, out in the studio you go.
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Harmonic differences and lack of feedback.
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I don't like the vibes and I don't dig the tones as much either. A few people I've tracked seemed to not give it there all when rolling in the CR.

With that being said, a couple guys I work with like to do it alot, so it ends up happening, in which case I won't complain; main priority is everyone being happy.
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As a guitarist I like to be in the room with my amp. Recording someone else, I like the guitarist to be nowhere near a mic

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If the guitar is buzzing or feeding back when you get too close to the amp,
then you either have to move away from the amp or work from the control room.

If you're going for controlled feedback between guitar and speaker, then sure,
the guitarist needs to be in the room with the amp.

For overdubs, it's probably easier from the control room, but again that depends on the sound source you are trying to capture.
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I like being in the control room when i am tracking guitar because i like to play without headphones sometimes - like for clean tones, and depending on the track it might be an advantage or not. Curiously, when recording something like bass direct i prefer headphones - even though i'm in the CR. If feedback is desired obviously you can get in the room with the amp.
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Surely its different techniques for different jobs right? Plus it depends if you are comping several takes and re-amping the guitar tones. If you want feedback you don't really have a choice, you could turn up the monitors but the sound isn't the same imo
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It's not so much *feedback* per se, but the liveliness the guitar has when you're playing close to the amp vs when you're far enough away from it that there's no interaction between the speakers/pickups/strings vibrating. A guitarist gets a different result playing in those two locations even if it's straight playing. Sometimes I want to be far away from an amp, where when a note ends it really ends. Sometimes I want to be close to it for how the string can vibrate slightly more in sympathy with the speaker, though I never play with what is considered feedback to the listener.

Both have their place : ) I do both, depending on what they want and what I want.
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either way... whatever works
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I typically record guitarists in the control room.

When I need feedback I'll split the guitar signal and run one line to a small practice amp in the control room. I'll crank it up and the guitarist can practically straddle the amp (if necessary) in order to drive the strings. The main rig sounds like it's feeding back and yet remains isolated.
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I like tracking bass from the control room. Those SVT's can get really loud, and if your going to be tracking for a couple hours, I'd much rather sit, on a nice comfy couch or next to a nice desk.
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I have heavy duty speaker cords running to the guitar room so we can run the head in the control room and and speakers in the iso room. For amps and speaker combos I have cabs with different kinds of speakers. I would rather run speaker cords than guitar cords over a distance. I'm a guitar player and engineer and prefer to be in the control room. I have also run a small extension speaker at the board if I want interaction between the guitar and speaker.

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I take any opportunity to get a musician out of headphones.
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As a guitarist, I like to hear myself in the mix, so I sit in the control room. As an engineer, I'd rather the guitarist stay with the amp.
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As a guitar player I prefer being with my amp, it changes the way I play, It feels much more live and causes me to play with a different energy than when I am sitting on a nice comfy chair in a control room.
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If he's a decent guy, the control room, if he's not, the live room.
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If he's a decent guy, the control room, if he's not, the live room.
lol, sometimes you just wanna get assholes outa your hair. I gotcha
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