Wanted: Fuzz Maniac Expert

[irishgrungerkid]

anyone?

[monsieur x]

A pedal? I have plenty of solutions for you ITB, I really love the way the Delay Designer distorts in Logic. Crank the feedback and let it blow up in there.


Pedals? ZVEX Fuzz Factory?

Cheers,

[irishgrungerkid]

hey zvex is opposite of what im looking for but its cool, and i gig so cant be logic. so ya a pedal

[darkhorse]

Wampler Levathan Fuzz

Wampler Triple Wreck -super high gain, note/chord articulate uses a fuzz for a selectible boost circuit, the Triple Wreck can do a Big Muff on steroids like what Gilmour has done on some of his ultra heavy sustaining.

Others are a toy compared. The inside of the Triple Wreck looks like something Nasa designed.

[Blast9]

Hey, give Nick Williams a call - He builds various high quality classic fuzz clones and would definitely be able to do you a custom pedal... Friendly bloke too!

williamsaudio.co.uk

[irishgrungerkid]

hey thanks guys!! appreciate the help so much and I'll definitely ring him up. And you nailed it darkhorse, im after that sustain, bright punchout.

[gabriel_au]

look at the Creepy Fingers line, they build nothing but amazing fuzz pedals (and a couple boost pedals)
hand built by Fu Manchu's bassist, a true fuzz-head

[irishgrungerkid]

oh ya fu manchu makes sense. And i apologize, I should have been more clearer in beginnning I guess. Any pedal with big muff tone but craziness of Blender?

[NikMuso]

Diabolical Devices Fuzz Burglar. FYI I don't use the oscillator feature... I bought it for its fuzz.

[darkhorse]

Originally Posted by irishgrungerkid

oh ya fu manchu makes sense. And i apologize, I should have been more clearer in beginnning I guess. Any pedal with big muff tone but craziness of Blender?

Listen to samples of the Triple Wreck not only does it range through a super intense overblown Big Muff that Gilmour has rendered on some Pink Floyd tunes but also through intense JCM and Rec tones with chord articulation a cheap fuzz does not have. It's stomp on boost is a fuzz circuit on top of the super high gain tone. Listen to the better samples, (Brett Kingman) this pedal kills.

The Levathan Fuzz is also more intense and controllable than most.

Wampler Pedals have great attributes or being more natural and transparent to the guitar tone rather than just a washout fizz fest.

[Jazz Noise]

Really crazy fuzz? Opposite of a Fuzz Factory?

Build a Harmonic Percolator or an Octavia. Maybe a Rat. It sounds like you want something really jagged and heavy!

[darkhorse]

Originally Posted by Jazz Noise

Really crazy fuzz? Opposite of a Fuzz Factory?

Build a Harmonic Percolator or an Octavia. Maybe a Rat. It sounds like you want something really jagged and heavy!

Best thing for a Rat is de-con.


Nasty, intense, pure fuzz????

Wampler Pedals: Leviathan Fuzz - YouTube

[Jazz Noise]

Sounds great, like a Big Muff with the high and low pass filter seperated! The Ge/Si diode switching is something myself and Jim Williams discussed here before - there's lots of great ways to clip a signal.

Some simple mods to currently owned pedals can simply be replace a single diode for another for assymetrical fuzz (more even order harmonics) or replacing them for ones with different on/off times for V/I curves (LED's = bright, fast on/off. Ge = soft, mushy). This is why we have so many variants on these old circuits.

Give the Rat a break, it does what it does!

[darkhorse]

Sorry a few pedals, I dislike, the Rat is on that short list. Jeff Beck's tone was terrible when he was using one.

The Wampler Leviathan Fuzz is a killer if you like pure fuzz.

Myself I think the Triple Wreck is the most intense versatile uber gain articulate pedal I have ever come across. It does the muff thing but it carries chords w note definition. The Muff is a pretty overated "classic", I had a few so long ago could not tell you the year.

[eve69]

Death By Audio shit like Fuzzgun
Devi Ever shit like Godzilla or Bit Legend of Fuzz
New Earthquaker Hoof Reaper Octaver

[stickers]

"Give the Rat a break, it does what it does!"

I recently started using the Rat. Its a strange critter but what it does you can't get from anything else, good and bad. A little bit of tweaking goes a long way.
The rat is capable of putting out some cool fuzz tones.

[Jazz Noise]

Originally Posted by eve69

Death By Audio shit like Fuzzgun
Devi Ever shit like Godzilla or Bit Legend of Fuzz
New Earthquaker Hoof Reaper Octaver

She puts schematics on her site too, if you're so inclined. Most are simple 2 Bjt jobbies.

The Muff clipper circuit is ubiquitous in Fuzz. It's basicaly everywhere. If you can imagine we have 3 sorts of clipping, shunt, saturation and feedback. Rat, Fuzz Face, Big Muff. In comporary terms that could be: Tube Screamer, Fuzz Factory, Levithian Fuzz.

It's the filters that make the difference. My Big Muff has a bypass on the filter that I use more often than I'd like to admit. The whole bandpass thing is a little much, alot of the pedals you're favouring here use Bass/Treble style shelf filters. Not that there's any implications to that, I just like saying it.

[irishgrungerkid]

Man I love you guys so much.
Keep 'em coming. and Jazz Noise, thats what I'm pretty much after, jagged and heavy, mainly voodoo child mixed with geek usa mixed with icky thump solo

[Jazz Noise]

The Icky Thump solo uses a POG feeding a Fuzz. Fuzz could be anything, including a Fuzz Factory.

If you're referring just to Rhythm of Geek Of USA then that's Big Muff and maybe amp distortion. I remember reading Billy started using a rackmount compressor around Melon Collie - Tubby would have a similar tone, I'd wonder if he was doing the same then. Voodoo Chile is a Fuzz Face, pure and simple.

These are very different tones! I'm not willing to put my hand up and name a pedal than can do all 3. What guitar are you using? 2 of the guitarists named are Strat-heads. Jack likes his obscure hollowbodies and stuff.

[darkhorse]

Originally Posted by stickers

"Give the Rat a break, it does what it does!"

I recently started using the Rat. Its a strange critter but what it does you can't get from anything else, good and bad. A little bit of tweaking goes a long way.
The rat is capable of putting out some cool fuzz tones.

I guess that is why I do not have one anymore.
Gee I've been playing for decades, what is tweaking?
Listen to Jeff Becks's live at BB Kings around 2000, terrible muddy, distortions maybe he is just not tweaking it.
You cats enjoy your "fuzz" and all that vintage wonder. The Leviathan kills most of them, but there again you have to actually play one.

[irishgrungerkid]

hello my friends. sorry for delay way to busy. I usually use a Fender Jagstang when i play, that or jaguar, strat.
Have you guys any experience with devi ever, they all look so good but i cant decide for shit.

[gouge]

devi ever godzilla could be considered close.

[gouge]

here are another 2

Recovery Sound Desctruction Device - YouTube

Fuzzbox Girl Fuzz Fatale multi function guitar effects pedal review - YouTube

edit'''''' forgot to add this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efplyS_9BBo

[irishgrungerkid]

aye i agree. I think i have narrowed it down perfectly. The guitar sound of the Deep Purple Hit "Hush" and that short, soloish riff on the Black Key's "Gold on the Ceiling"
Any recs on those?

[gouge]

some type of super fuzz pedal should do it.

i had a listen to both of those songs. now don't take this as gospel as i am NOT a good guitar player.

but

the thing that i hear most is what sounds like a hollowbody guitar tone. could be wrong but that's what i hear.

[irishgrungerkid]

ya true dat, you mean the univox line of pedals

[gouge]

something like that. i think he uses a shin ei pedal.

any germanium fuzz pedal with the guitar volume pulled back a little will get you in the ballpark. you don't need to spend multiple hundreds on vintage pedals.

boutique pedals are awesome. have a look on youtube.

[Frank_Case]

Originally Posted by irishgrungerkid

Anyone got a pedal that combines the kickassness of the Big Muff and Fender Blender.

Skreddy Supa Tone does this.

[irishgrungerkid]

I think i might go with a superfuzz clone, they seem the right direction. either the one by wattson electronics or the china fuzz by MJM. MJM just makes a great line of fuzzes
and frank, i do like that skreddy i still gotta think though, especially with recently discoving wattson and MJM