Recommendations needed please! Controlling gain. - Gearslutz.com Gearslutz.com
 


All Advertisers
Go Back   Gearslutz.com > The Forums > So many guitars, so little time!

Recommendations needed please! Controlling gain.
Topic: New Reply New Reply Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 16th June 2012   #1
Gear nut
 
Ree Fungorio's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 80

Thread Starter
Send a message via Skype™ to Ree Fungorio
Recommendations needed please! Controlling gain.

Hi I'm wondering if someone makes an OD pedal or other controller that would work with an analog OD like this: I would like to be able to go from clean (just amp) to high gain (in my case a fulltone OCD) using a treadle type foot control. I know I'll have to split the guitar signal before this but there are plenty of options for that. Basically heel-down, clean; toe down, all overdrive, and a mixture of the two in between I guess.

Is there a foot pedal that will mix two 1/4 inputs and allow you to mix them with your foot? Basically what I want is to be able to switch between overdriven and somewhat clean but not so abruptly as I have to by turning the OCD on and off. I am the only guitar player in a 3 piece so it would be nice if I could come out of a chorus and ease into a verse or vice versa.

I love the sound of my amp (Savage Macht 12) and it loves the OCD. I just am looking to switch the two gradually instead of on or off.

Am I just dumb and there's a well known pedal that will do this?

Thanks for any recommendations,

Peace, Ree
Ree Fungorio is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 16th June 2012   #2
Lives for gear
 
litepipe's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Location: Brooklyn

Send a message via AIM to litepipe
Most people ride their volume knob on their guitar for this. It just a volume pedals before the OCD. Back if volume, cleans up.
__________________
Mark Marshall
www.guitaristmarkmarshall.com
litepipe is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 17th June 2012   #3
Lives for gear
 
fastlanestoner's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 2,639

Send a message via AIM to fastlanestoner Send a message via MSN to fastlanestoner
Agreed it would be hard to control that in the heat of battle. You're better of using the pots like the above poster said, or fixing your pups so that your bridge has a volume boost. splitting hairs
__________________
Guitar/Backline Tech and Mobile Recording services in the Los Angeles area!
Custom stompboxes and cabling for stage and studio.

Audio Ecstasy

Die-hard Phila Eagles fan!
fastlanestoner is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 17th June 2012   #4
Gear nut
 
Ree Fungorio's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 80

Thread Starter
Send a message via Skype™ to Ree Fungorio
Thanks for the replies; I know the volume knob is probably the best but 1) I need to do it while I'm playing and singing, and 2) I mainly use an Eastwood 3P DLX, and the volume knob is very poorly placed for this. I was just hoping there was something like an a/b/y box that could be controlled with a "treadle" type instead of a switch.

I can do it with my line 6 M13 and an expression pedal but I don't want to lug it around just for that. I suppose I could invest in the M5 or whatever the single one is called but I am not a huge fan of the ODs/dist in there. As far as a volume pedal, I want to keep the volumes somewhat the same, and have had not-so-good results mainly because I can't consistently get the backed-off position the same.

I remember there being some contraption like this with a cable that would actually turn the knob on the pedal but I can't seem to find it and it seemed a little hokey.

Thanks GSers, I'll keep trying to find a solution!

Ree
Ree Fungorio is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 17th June 2012   #5
Gear addict
 
Johnny Favorite's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 412

a volume pedal is like a volume knob, but at your foot. . just put it before the OD.

Can`t think of a better solution.
Johnny Favorite is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 17th June 2012   #6
Gear addict
 
Johnny Favorite's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 412

Ahhhh! 'little contraption that turns knobs". It`s called 3rd Hand. wish I had 6.

Musictoyz.com: Tone In Progress 3rd Hand
Johnny Favorite is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 17th June 2012   #7
Gear addict
 
Johnny Favorite's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 412

But then again, you`d turn what? OD gain? doesn`t it make you louder as you increase it? you`d screw your mix at every step. Volume pedal seems to be the most elegant solution.
Johnny Favorite is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 24th June 2012   #8
Lives for gear
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,092

Pigtronix Keymaster and a $50 CV pedal, done. From the manual:

"Keymaster lets a musician crossfade between different effects (or entire pedal boards) with a standard expression pedal. "

Since it has a million other uses in the studio, it's a good investment! If you want a cheaper alternative, ask Loooper or This1smyne to build you a parallel effects loop pedal with the mix knob replaced by a CV jack.
drbob1 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 25th June 2012   #9
Gear addict
 
Johnny Favorite's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 412

I just recomended the keymaster on other thread and forgot all about it on this one.

Keymaster it is.
Johnny Favorite is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 25th June 2012   #10
Lives for gear
 
Silent Sound's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,445

Boss made a PD-1 distortion pedal that does that. Interesting, but I don't care for the sound of the distortion.

If I were going to go about this, I'd probably take a wah or volume pedal and rewire it myself to sweep between two different loops. I'd probably try a dual ganged pot so I'd be seeping both the input and output of each line (clean/distortion). Hard to say what would be the best way to go about this without trying a couple of different ways though. I'm not an electrical engineer.

Also, I always hate how so many people always say "use the volume knob on your guitar" like that's the only right way to control overdrive. There are so many ways to go about this, and none of them are wrong. It's as valid as any other for sure, but by no means the best. It's also not the "purist" way to control OD for all you elitists out there. That would be controlling dynamics with your hands by picking and fretting with sensitivity, just like people have been doing for hundreds of years on acoustics.

... Sorry. Narrow mindedness, especially from the old guard, is a hot button of mine. And my rant wasn't directed at anyone here specifically. It's just a common theme among questions like this on the internet.
Silent Sound is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 27th June 2012   #11
Gear nut
 
Ree Fungorio's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 80

Thread Starter
Send a message via Skype™ to Ree Fungorio
Thank you for the keymaster. It's exactly what I want to try but had a hard time explaining.

Thanks a million folks!

Ree
Ree Fungorio is offline  
Reply With Quote
New Reply New Reply Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook  Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter  Submit Thread to LinkedIn LinkedIn 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Similar Threads
Thread Thread starter Forum Replies Last Post
Support needed in London/UK, please...! XLR Remote Possibilities in Acoustic Music & Location Recording 0 11th March 2008 07:05 PM
NEW ENGLAND (Boston), PLEASE HELP: Split Snake Needed (Rent or Borrow)!! nerogtr Remote Possibilities in Acoustic Music & Location Recording 7 29th October 2007 06:39 AM
+4 dBu vs Lo Gain on Fireface? Joost So much gear, so little time! 20 22nd March 2007 08:55 AM
Need advice on new control room layout Brad McGowan So much gear, so little time! 11 3rd March 2007 04:41 PM
gain vs autogain on compressors mattianlaseppia So much gear, so little time! 4 5th February 2007 01:43 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:25 PM.

Home - Search Forum - Contact Us - Terms Of Use / Privacy Policy - Advertise on Gearslutz - All Advertisers - Top
 
 
Powered by vBulletin®
Gearslutz.com LTD - UK Company Number 7597610.
Registered Office - 35 Ballards Lane, London, N3 1XW.
Hosted by Nimbus Hosting.

By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies.

SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.