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18th May 2012
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Variable Crossover Stompbox

Hey slutz, I am pretty surprised that there seems to be such a shortage of pedals offering this ability. I am looking to run my bass through the pedal, so the low frequencies go through a specific fx line, and the high another. I have seen good reviews for the Peavey BAC-2 (although not variable), but it doesn't seem to be made anymore. Same with the SFX X&M.

I see tons of crossover products, but most seem to be line level (like Rane AC-22S ), so they would not work plugging my bass into them. If the pedal has a cool effect that would be awesome, but I am also satisfied with just the crossover aspect. (the Boss CEB-3 looks like it may be able to do this, without being variable, but I would like something true-bypass if possible)
Thanks a ton in advance!
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Any recommendations of guys that do custom pedals? Maybe this thread is in the wrong spot.
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Hey slutz, I am pretty surprised that there seems to be such a shortage of pedals offering this ability. I am looking to run my bass through the pedal, so the low frequencies go through a specific fx line, and the high another. I have seen good reviews for the Peavey BAC-2 (although not variable), but it doesn't seem to be made anymore. Same with the SFX X&M.

I see tons of crossover products, but most seem to be line level (like Rane AC-22S ), so they would not work plugging my bass into them. If the pedal has a cool effect that would be awesome, but I am also satisfied with just the crossover aspect. (the Boss CEB-3 looks like it may be able to do this, without being variable, but I would like something true-bypass if possible)
Thanks a ton in advance!
Line level would be fine as long as you had some other buffered pedal before it. Even a tuner. Lots of pedals operate at line level.

I don't know of a variable crossover in a stompbox, but would be easy to build if you were so inclined. You could ever get by with splitting the signal into two graphic EQ or parametric shelving pedals.

Lanois used a crossover on his guitar often when not touring with a bass player. Custom job his brother built.
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You may check out the nitewalker bass preamp, not sure if you can bypass it.
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I make all sorts of custom stompboxes. I think this is a cool idea and would love to discuss it a little more. Hit me up via PM and we can talk about it!
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Cool idea. Could I recommend a splitter and mixer in the same pedal? Imagine one input (passive or active levels selectable) with a mono send output and a stereo return and stereo output. If this was set at unity gain, you could use 1/4" jacks where the pots normally go. I don't mind RCA jacks either - another option if space is tight.

The stereo sends and returns would revert to mono if only one plug inserted.

That would allow, for example, a fuzz box to be layered over the top of a dry bass. And you could insert a stereo flanger over the fuzz too if you wanted.

Probably a switch with preset crossover frequencies (and an off option for simply layering stuff with no filter).
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Thanks a bunch for the responses guys. Here is a link to what I am basically looking for, unfortunately that particular product is not being made right now. [sfx]:Crossover and Mix
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Line level would be fine as long as you had some other buffered pedal before it. Even a tuner. Lots of pedals operate at line level.

I don't know of a variable crossover in a stompbox, but would be easy to build if you were so inclined. You could ever get by with splitting the signal into two graphic EQ or parametric shelving pedals.

Lanois used a crossover on his guitar often when not touring with a bass player. Custom job his brother built.

I guess I am still pretty ignorant to how this works. I am assuming before I could plug my bass into something like this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...A2IFYT7JVWTGRN , I would need to go into a preamp to increase the signal to line level. Preferably I want to avoid using a preamp until after my signals have gone through the pedal chain. However if no other options are available, I may have to reconsider. Thanks a bunch again.
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I guess I am still pretty ignorant to how this works. I am assuming before I could plug my bass into something like this Amazon.com: Rolls SX21 Crossover 2 Way, 1/4 Inch Unbalanced Input and Outputs, Low and High Output Controls: Musical Instruments , I would need to go into a preamp to increase the signal to line level. Preferably I want to avoid using a preamp until after my signals have gone through the pedal chain. However if no other options are available, I may have to reconsider. Thanks a bunch again.
It's more about impedance than level. Any buffer pedal will work. Pretty much anything that isn't true bypass will work, even a tuner. You can go into a proper preamp after the split.
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