New tc electronic toneprint pedal series

[darkhorse]

I just experimented with the toneprint downloads on the delay and chorus and it was a bit of a learning curve to figure it out. I followed the instructions but got "no connection" issue. Problem is they neglect to tell you that you need to not only battery up the pedal, put the USB to the PC, and stick a plug in the input to turn on the pedal power. Once I did that my PC loaded the drivers and ran the upload function quick and easy. Takes like 2-3secs.

The Chorus had an error requesting a new firmware version be installed before the Toneprint could work. Instructions on this one were complete and accurate.

Remove battery and all cables, connect USB, hold down button and insert a 9v power supply line (did not need a plug in the jack to turn it on) unit went green and drivers loaded, downloaded the new firmware (3secs) LED red and back in business, Toneprint went right in. I am trying out the cool ones from ProGuitarShop guy first as they sounded like they would be pretty interesting. A dual chorus voice and a EP delay mimic to match an old EP tape unit A/B. I think I could spend months with the download options on these pedals.

Sweet pedals, I've had few things that impressed me so much for the money and quality. What is in the water over there in Denmark? These guys make wicked tone magic.

[Fisticuffs]

TC's always made great sounding styuff. I like that they've expanded the guitar pedal line so much. the classic Chorus and phaser pedals were great, the Nova series are great, I'm not surprised to hear good things about toneprint. Now if they only made some more specifically for bass. I'd take individual fuzz, synth, and octave from them in any form. They could take the multi band comp out of my RH450 and sell them as well. My store just got in a Blacksmith head. I'm afraid to try it out honestly as I don't have the money or need the power.

[Spudmurphy]

The switch is very low (much lower than the stomp switches on the pedals next to it). I was hitting the switch with my size 9 feet and was hitting the selection knobs - not good, infact quite embarrassing. I made an aluminium shield which screws to the base of my board and fits between the switch and the control knobs - basically a barrier. Ergonomics of this pedal are not good !! but the sound is fantastic !!Here's the pic of my pedal board with the "barrier" in place to stop me inadvertentlyhitting the knobs on the TC pedal. Gonna use it again live tonight and see if it cures my problem.


Their customer service sucks though. tutt

[darkhorse]

Can't see the pic.

The solution some on the pedal board thread have come to is raising the height of some pedals in order to have clearance for stepping. I had the same problem in trying to make a more dense compact board, the pedals, of all types were just too close and I have an 11 foot I was constantly not able to hit switches. My solution was to go back to my larger board and run my effects more in a straight chain of 2 levels. My 2nd level chain is my loop.

Just an FYI on the issue of true-bypass and buffer pedals. As most know or have become aware the best signal from a chain of effects does not come from using ALL true by-pass nor all buffer pedals. The best configuration is using both. A buffer near or in front and one at the end of the chain works the best with everything else being true bypass. The TC pedals have a unique option of turning on the pedal buffer circuit if needed. My loop had all true by-pass pedals and I had some slight noise floor, I switched on the TC delay's buffer and presto pristine quiet.

If any are wondering how do you know if something is really true bypass, it will pass the guitar signal when the battery and power are removed. A buffer circuit will not. Too many buffers are loading to the signal and screw up the tone, all true-bypass does not save you from cap load and signal loss, it helps and is infinitely better than bad tone sucking non bypass, but a good buffer circuit can really improve your signal and tone.

[darkhorse]

Hey, this thread just got a mention on TC's home page with a thanks for talking about the new series. I am also on the forum using my real name. Paul A. They have a nice forum on there for TC gear.

Two requests TC magicians: a Phaser model and some glimmer of hope that somewhere down the line you will release the toneprint editor software for us mere mortals. The idea of being able to completely model a pedal to exactly what one wants it to do, sorts of keeps me awake thinking at night.

Seems some of the players were complaining of noise in their chain when using several of the new boxes. It's a matter of just turning on one of the box's buffer option circuit (inside, top switch). If you run a large board like I do you have to have a mix of true bypass and at least 1 good buffer circuit. Most of the time it's good to have a buffer circuit first in chain and some recommend one at the end w all true bypass in between. Having all true bypass is a myth of not loading your tone or losing signal, you have to have at least one good buffer circuit which only improves your tone. The TC cats were cool enough to provide an option switch on the TonePrint models for their buffer circuit, there is also a cool dry mute switch option that is useful for different aps like a parallel loop.

I had a series of all true bypass in my loop and noticed a little annoying noise floor when not playing, clicking on the buffer option switch on the delay/looper took it right out. My amp in chain has a mix of bypass and buffer.

I like the new MojoMojo overdrive so far, I have it set for a really clean boost, fattener that is working out really well. I tend not to like really gainy ODs and the beauty of this pedal is that it gets totally clean with the drive down unlike some of my other drives. I still like the ICE 9 quite a bit and I use both of these for differing options.

[darkhorse]

Originally Posted by Spudmurphy

The switch is very low (much lower than the stomp switches on the pedals next to it). I was hitting the switch with my size 9 feet and was hitting the selection knobs - not good, infact quite embarrassing. I made an aluminium shield which screws to the base of my board and fits between the switch and the control knobs - basically a barrier. Ergonomics of this pedal are not good !! but the sound is fantastic !!Here's the pic of my pedal board with the "barrier" in place to stop me inadvertentlyhitting the knobs on the TC pedal. Gonna use it again live tonight and see if it cures my problem.


Their customer service sucks though. tutt

I am still kind of wondering why you are stepping on the whole pedal?? I have trouble on densely packed boards with my Sasquatch feet but that is a matter of hitting pedals next to each other w no room.

[organsymphony]

Originally Posted by Spudmurphy

The switch is very low (much lower than the stomp switches on the pedals next to it). I was hitting the switch with my size 9 feet and was hitting the selection knobs - not good, infact quite embarrassing. I made an aluminium shield which screws to the base of my board and fits between the switch and the control knobs - basically a barrier. Ergonomics of this pedal are not good !! but the sound is fantastic !!Here's the pic of my pedal board with the "barrier" in place to stop me inadvertentlyhitting the knobs on the TC pedal. Gonna use it again live tonight and see if it cures my problem.

Their customer service sucks though. tutt

I fail to see how having more room to hit the button causes you to hit the controls? Are you overstepping the footswitch?

[ping panic]

I bought HOF and it's really really nice!!!

[darkhorse]

Originally Posted by ping panic

I bought HOF and it's really really nice!!!

OK, what's a HOF?

Just wondering, but does the guy above step on the switch with his heel?????



(response from TC: they are considering the response to release a public toneprint editor software.)

[Fisticuffs]

Hall Of Fame Reverb

[darkhorse]

Originally Posted by Fisticuffs

Hall Of Fame Reverb

I would have gotten this one as well but I had just gotten a new Reverb a few months ago. The Hardwire Reverb is pretty sweet, Lexicon reverbs and I got it on a goof misprice sale for only $49, I couldn't believe it. Really a great reverb unit, very deep and musical the best I have ever had. I am sure the new TC reverb is amazing but I could not justify dropping my new Hardwire which sounds great.

Getting great sounds out of the delay, the more I mess w it the more I like and appreciate just how well it functions and is so musical, and not brittle, the modes are really great. Some of the modes sound so good it is hard to move on and try other ones. I am hard pressed to really pick favs among them as I find uses for any of them that inspire new tunes. My fav toneprint so far is the ProGuitarShop EP3 mimic by Andy, killer echoplex A/B of his personal EP unit.

It took me a while to experiment w the Chorus but I am now getting used to it and have found some really great tones for clean and gained tones. The PGS print for this one is also very good. Right now I have the TC alternate Tri-Chorus toneprint I am messing with.

The thing I have noticed about the Chorus is its digital platform, for a digital it is extremely good sounding. Perhaps the reason why they do not have a phaser is because digital phasers have a hard time beating the amazing sweep ratio and depth of an analog. Digital is perfect for DDL and Reverbs and the TC rules that realm as far as I am concerned.

You might find a Chorus you like better on a analog platform but the options on the TC are pretty cool. The SCF mode has a Flange based undertone other than a phase based undertone which gives it a unique character. (Hence they have the Vortex Flanger.) I have this cool Eric Johnson type chorus for clean and w the Delay it is pretty damn fun to play. It is a great chorus and the more I use it and integrate it the more I like it. I like it more than the usual Boss chorus (I am just not a fan of Boss, I sort of got away from them) but I can tell you I had a Visual Sound Chorus and that puppy was a really good sounding "liquid" chorus. I really like some of the Visual Sound pedals and their internal buffer circuit is one of the best you can get.

Anywho...back to the playing, it is such a hoot to get some new boxes to mess with, but, now I realize I have to make some new cables for rearranging my board.

[darkhorse]

The more I mess w the various tone prints the more it makes me want to be able to program my own. The editor is so complex one would need to sit down for hours tweaking and then go back and retry it fresh. Some are done way too quickly which might amaze the kids but I do not have a use for over modulated chorus or delays that go insane.

So far I am able to adjust in on the pedal some really great tones, having the editor would allow more fine tuning the knobbies cannot do. Still in all honesty speaking from the ones I have, the Flashback Delay/Looper is hands down the best sounding delay I have ever had the pleasure of messing with. The chorus is unique and has it's own sound, probably not as deep and moving as a really good analog platform but for only $130 it is a really nice unit, very musical like all these pedals they seem to blend into your tone and playing much better than most. I still have to say that Visual Sound Liquid Chorus was a really great chorus for the bucks.

I suspect the reverb is on par w the delay as they are so related, I just did not need a new reverb. I can see why they have not done a phaser as a digital platform phaser is just no where the depth of the analog ones. One reason why modelers are just not quite there on pedals that sound better analog.

[darkhorse]

I have been messing w these pedals considerably on my board. Both the Delay and Chorus are in my loop which is where I get the best and fullest tone.

What I have noticed regarding the tone-print software is that there are an amazing number of parameters inside these units that can only be accessed through the software editor. Until the software is available for us mere mortals we cannot truly take these pedals as far as their capability permits.

For the most part the toneprints of the notable players consist of a TC tech working the knobbies while the player noodles around trying to locate something they like. Whereas, someone like me, or perhaps you, would sit for hours tweaking and adjusting to get the most perfect tone possible, one can also limit the knob ranges so that the magic tone cannot be screwed up too far with adjustment.

So the available toneprints are not really of the artist tweaking away like a mad scientist, but a TC tech adjusting while the artist noodles about. So it is limiting in that regard. I would probably take days fine tuning and exploring each option in detail. It would take you the better part of day to fully understand all of the adjustments and their scope on the tone. I get the issue of having the TC tech fly the plane, as it where, but one can imagine a real pedal tweaking maven could really come up with some more musically useful and better patches. A lot of them are just out of control or set to some oddity that is only useful for some weird effect.

Not to knock Orianthi, because she is so hot, and is certainly a guitarist you would pick to play a part and nail it, as she seems to work them out until perfect. I can see why MJ picked her to reproduce his hits. Plus she looks so good on stage as to be hypnotic. She does not strike me as an improvisor or a spin on her heel player, she seems to be really rehearsed and planned. But like I said she is so hot and a girl who can play at that caliber is so nice to see. She is a pro but not an improvisor. But, I got the idea when she was doing the tone-prints she had no idea how to really use a chorus and her option was way over modulated to speed and not very musically useful. As any effect maven knows on a chorus, modulation goes up, speed comes down, else you get this out of control warble that does not sound good. For someone first hearing a chorus it might be interesting, but it's a little like mistaking the tracking glitch on a whammy pedal as part of the musical artifact.

When the release the software for pedal customer the gates will open on these pedals. And I can probably see TCs most likely thoughts that the average player is rather lacking in tech to have this much edit capability. If you're one of those players who just sticks with the factory patches on a multiprocessor this is a capability far beyond your needs, but, if you are one of those cats who likes to get into 13 params on a reverb, these are pedals from Asgard.

Imagine a Chorus, Delay, Vibrato, Flanger or Reverb programmed in all parameters for your exact picky personal taste and ear. This is far beyond merely getting a boutique pedal and dialing in the knobbies to find a sweet spot tone.

[darkhorse]

While I do think the digital platform pedals are peerless in tone, quality and price, I just cannot really get behind the Overdrive all that much. I found I just do not like the gain structure or voice on this OD.

I am using it for a clean boost w the drive all the way down, it cleans up all the way and is transparent without coloring the tone but here again unlike the digital platform pedals there is no option switch on the bottom to click on the TC buffer circuit. Thereby, it would have been a good buffer pedal/boost first in chain.

Maybe some might like the voice on this drive, it is definitely not a simple tubescreamer clone. To me it sounds like bad gain on an SS amp knob marked gain.

It gains up quite a bit, which for me is a not care as I do not really like gainy ODs. I like less gain more push and tonal drives. Something about the voice and gain structure on this pedal that just does not do it for me even mixed with other high gains or tube gain channels. I've tried really hard lately to integrate it in my chain trying to adjust it all over the place. But in an A/B on my board no matter the combination or scene the ICE9 kills it as a an OD. The ICE 9 does not clean up as well but its voice and interaction works well in many different uses.

I did not mess with the high gain Dark Matter as I could tell just in the demos it does not have the sort of gain structure I like. I do love the toneprint platforms but the OD or the high gain, not so much. I cannot say it does better than my Fat Boost for clean boost and the ICE 9 never fails to deliver the goods especially in front of other gains or high gain tube channels. I would actually prefer the M I Audio Boost and Buffer first in chain. True by pass is great and all that but sometimes you need a good buffer circuit in there to really have good chain signal strength.

So bottom line, the delay, reverb, vibrato, flanger in this series are superb. For OD I would hold out for Barber myself. For high gains I have the Ibanez Tube King TK999HT which I just love and a Satchurator which is a little more toned down and less intense than the Ibanez. These pedals always deliver goods if I want some really high gain tones without using my amp high gains. That Ibanez burns. Real tube dist at 100v internal, not as much as the DarkStar 300v platform pedals but it does really sound great. The ICE9 in front of these pedals or a gained up tube channel is just excellent. The ICE9 is a great drive and not merely a typical TS clone. I plan to get into some Barber when I build my budget back up. Barber has the best drives especially low gain like I prefer and the Small Fry which does both really well. If you are looking for a superior delay or reverb the TCs are peerless. For $160 that delay never ceases to amaze me w its options and modes. Even without the toneprint extra patch capability it is an amazing DDL w more features than pedals costing much more.

[Blast9]

darkhorse - as usual very informative.

Does the delay have the lfo wobble like the deluxe memory man.

I have the Nova system which is great but the delay doesn't have the pitch wobble feature.

overdrive - I assume it is the same as the one in the Nova system

[Blast9]

Originally Posted by darkhorse

Hey, this thread just got a mention on TC's home page with a thanks for talking about the new series. I am also on the forum using my real name. Paul A. They have a nice forum on there for TC gear.

Cool TC!

[darkhorse]

Originally Posted by Blast9

darkhorse - as usual very informative.

Does the delay have the lfo wobble like the deluxe memory man.

I have the Nova system which is great but the delay doesn't have the pitch wobble feature.

overdrive - I assume it is the same as the one in the Nova system

If it is the same OD I am glad I never got the Nova as I looked at that quite a bit. I hope their dist is better as well. I am picky on ODs and high gains and I go through them a lot looking for the magic tone that works for me. Like I said the TC quality is peerless on their digital platform effects. I am not in love w the overdrive or dist and I think they could have done a better tonality of them. I am super picky on overdrives and high gains and I tend to use several of them for different options. My board is pretty loaded these days. I use the OD as a clean boost w the EQ adding some more body to the sound but having the option of the TC buffer switch like the others have would have also been a decent feature. I still use my ICE9 OD and I quite like that box the way it combines w other pedals and hits the tube front end. It does not clean up that well, not like the TC so each has its uses. They will do until I eventually experiment w some Barber drives.

The wobble or flutter effect is preset on the tape mode delay. There are a ton of adjustable parameters within the toneprint editor software that experienced pedal mavens would be able to adjust all sorts of fine tunings. I am sure it is adjustable in the editor. I've seen it on the screen during their sessions.

They are talking about a public release of the software editor, the potential of these pedals will really open up when they do. Andy at ProGuitarShop.com has designed a really nice A/B mimic of his personal EP unit into a toneprint. Several others have chosen the tape mod to build their patches, so I am sure someone has kicked up that option more than the default.

The tape preset mode is set to sound and feel like a tape echo, I think it does a decent job, too much warble or flutter becomes ineffective to a point and starts becoming a less musical effect.

I have to tell you I was shopping through a lot of delays and I have had a fair number of them. I get really frustrated by delays and have often just taken them off line preferring my reverb set on deep trail. I love that sort of long throw reverb Jeff Beck gets. But there is a lot to be said for that under tone echo repeat that is subtle. I do not like to lose my tone or feel in delay, I like to keep them down in the background like a trail. The DYN 2290 delay mode dampens the repeats when you are playing fast or complex and then lets them trail on a pause or stop. Pretty major coolness for a delay costing around $160. I like so many of the modes for different delay feel and tone it is hard to nail a fav. The analog and lo-fi modes have this great warm high end roll off tone that just sound better than any DDL in that realm I used.

This delay is just fun to mess with and it has that cool 1/4 note std, plus 1/8 note or both like a dual tap delay for that kind of U2 Edge repeat thing. For $160 nothing touches this units 11 modes w reverse, tap, 6 sec and 40 sec loop. The tap timing temp feature is rather unique on this pedal, you just hold down the button and pick or strum your rhythmic timing and in three notes it has the tempo set (and the timing set is not heard). Release the button and presto your tempo ms is adjusted to your tune. Sure beats having to stomp on a timing pedal button or stomping on the pedal button to set it.

I like the Vox JS Timemachine delay but for $200 it cannot beat this unit. An A/B of similar priced delays like the Boss or even the Hardwire (which I think is a damn good delay) still cannot touch the TC even excluding the toneprint feature. It is just that good of a musical sounding and useful delay.

I am waiting on some new couplers to come in so I can run some different connection lines. I had to drop all my gold solid couplers because the manufacturing was just terrible on them. Not a one of them actually had straight barrels on the plug stems not even the supposed "straight" one, the offset ones are just terrible. Shame really because I was digging the gold. I ordered some of those angle offset ones by Hose that seem to be straight and I have seen a lot of boards using them. FYI, the pedalboard thread is pretty sweet here to see a ton of different rigs and layouts, I love that sort of thing myself, gives you some great ideas. Some of these cats have some serious bucks.

Sometimes the true-bypass myth just goes a little too far. The first custom pedal boards built for the high rollers like Bradshaws rigs always had a good buffer circuit in front to kick the high impedance down and make the signal quality as good as possible. All true by pass does not save you from cap load and signal degrade. You need a good buffer in their somewhere, most prefer at the front of the chain. Likewise too many buffer circuits, like a chain of Boss effects can muffle your tone and make it sound too artificial. The TC pedals have completely transparent bypass and if you need a decent buffer circuit they do quite well on that option as well. I clicked on the delay buffer in my loop to kill some of the noise floor and it did a great job and I do not run a noise gate or a noise reduction pedal. Clicking on the buffer option on the delay also gives you trails when you step the effect off and you can use the dry kill switch in that mode as well. Really useful for a parallel loop if you have one.

[darkhorse]

Just FYI
I sent back the Mojo OD, just did not dig the drive voice on it. No matter where I adjusted it, it just was not the sort of tone I like in a drive. The rest of the toneprint series is superb but this is not a toneprint platform and they do not offer the optional buffer circuit switch. Cleans up all the way to nice clean boost and if it had the buffer option I might have used it for that. Regretfully I returned it.

Also BTW,
hard pedal couplers
I have about three different models of these (8 ea) and the gold ones. Had to give up on the gold ones, as NONE of them have straight in-line barrels on the plugs, ALL are crooked, even the supposed straight one had crooked plug alignment. I did like the Hosa right angled couplers (not made in gold) they are nice and straight made and good quality, just that not applicable on all pedals. They are rather close mounted and could not clear the difference on some of my stereo jacked pedals. They work great on some connections, if the jacks are close mounted to the box you might want to put a piece of tape on the jack as to not ground to the box, this can give you some noise.

Bottom line Toneprint series superb. Love the Delay and the Chorus, would not hesitate to get the Reverb, Flanger or Vibrato but the overdrive and dist, not so much.

[Tiger]

I bought 4 of these babies today (reverb, delay, flanger, chorus) after doing thorough research about them. I do have "lots" of pedals gathered from over 35 years of playing, incl. the "Hardwire" delay, chorus and reverb pedal. But the main reason that I bought the TC pedals is that I use all effects in a stereo effectloop along with several plexi Marshall's. And while the Hardwire DL-8 is a great pedal itself, it won't ping pong left and right (stereo out) if "both" inputs are fed from another stereo output pedal before that one, which therefore makes the Hardwire pedals less useful in a "stereo" setup unless it's used first in the chain with one input only.

However, as for the TC pedals this doesn't matter. They are designed differently and their "own" effect are stereo out regardless if both inputs are connected from another stereo out pedal.

Tiger

[darkhorse]

I think they are tremendous pedals for bucks and that is without considering the toneprint function. I wish they would release the public editor software although I think that screws up their celebrity patch base they seem to be want to develop. That's all fine and good but get some more notable players or give us the editor. Edge delay settings would be great. I think their celebrity toneprint issues are going to run thin in time. I do not tend to look to Nashville players for tone ideas, but that's just me. Huff does have an excellent TriChorus download I like a lot. For the most part I prefer to dial in my settings.

I have recently decided to move over to Wampler pedals but that will probably not effect my TC pedals which are in my loop chain. Wampler does make a great Chorus but I cannot see replacing my current Chorus, Delay or Reverb as they pretty much deliver the goods no matter the styles I throw at them. The Delay in particular I think is really better than perhaps is known at this time, it is the best sounding delay I have ever used and I have been through a few of them over time. I just moved my gear into a bigger sound room and I kicked on that delay and it just filled the room with some excellent sounding tape mode delays.

[Fisticuffs]

Bought the Chorus for my bass pedal board. It does the job. Would love to see some toneprints dedicated to bass though. TC? Help a brotha out.

[Tiger]

Well, I did a thorough test of all 4 pedals today linked to each other in stereo. And what can I say, Holy crap! (pardon my french)

I totally agree with the above statements. All of these are top notch if not better. I was also happy to see that even though all pedals are linked together in stereo, you still have the choice to use the chorus in mono (if desired) by simply turning the little switch to the up position. Sometimes, when already using a nice stereo reverb (hall or church type) or a stereo delay, a mono chorus may then sound better in some cases. And if not, just turn the little switch to the middle or down position to get a mighty and wide stereo chorus instead.

The Hall of Fame reverb is nothing less than insane and a chapter by it's own and the same thing goes for the delay. I totally agree that this is the best delay pedal around, period. The crystal clear ping pong mode and stereo separation is perfect, but the "2290" mode with the little switch set to down position are maybe even cooler. Then the delay not only goes from left & right but to 9 o'clock position as well. I also love the "old fashion" made knobs and the little space they need on the pedalboard with these handy small jack adapters: http://www.jam.se/produkt/3093/

For this kind of quality (and money) it almost feels like walking out of the store with 2 pedals but got 6 in the bag by some mistake

These are the very best "stereo" stompbox pedals around. No question in my mind

Tiger

[Kiwi]

Have you tried the Line6 Pod HD or M series?

[Tiger]

Nope, the only thing I have as far as "Line 6" is their excellent Relay G30 wireless on my Pedaltrain 2 board and everything on there are powered by the Voodoo PP2+ in a bracket underneath. I even use the courtesy outlet from the pp2+ to power the HarmonyMan who have stereo outs + true bypass. That one goes in the stereo effectloop as well. I also have the X2 XDR95 (90 meter range) but that one has now (as everybody knows) been replaced with the new Relay G90 for "worldwide" use.

I prefer using individual effects because a combination of both true bypass and buffer circuit pedals are the "ideal" solution from a technical point of view. Not one or the other. All my pedals in the stereo effectloop chain are true bypass except from the first and last one who is a buffer circuit pedal. However, as far as the signal that goes from the guitar to the front input of my 1987x Marshall amp, they are ALL true bypass. Among other the YJM 308 (modded to true bypass + Led by analogman.com) and Crybaby 535Q (revision F = true bypass version) etc. Since I always use a digital wireless instead of a cable it means that there are no signal loss or resistance and therefore no point with a buffer circuit pedal somewhere in the middle. The combined length of the guitar signal cable (Evidence Audio) incl. top notch patch cables/adapters from the pedalboard to the 1987x Marshall are not longer than 7 meters in total anyway, which is fully acceptable.

I have a large amp setup but very short, the Marshall 1987x speaker output goes in to one of the 3 Marshall SE-100's (speaker emulators) that I have in my studio. The SE-100 only function as a "dummy load" for the 1987x. No speaker cab. A very "low" line out signal from the SE-100 are then split in 2 and goes to the front input of 2 "1959" 100 watt plexi Marshall's. The speaker output from each of the 100 watt Marshall's then goes in to their own THD Hotplate 16 ohm and Marshall 1960AX cabinets. The Hotplates are frequency compensated and therefore the two 100 watt Marshall's will always sound exactly "equal" when both 1959 Marshalls are at the same volume and the Hotplates have the same settings.

Effectloop "send" goes from one of the 100 Watt 1959 Marshall's to the pedalboard and then "stereo" return left/right back to each of the 1959's effectloop return.

This can be compared to using Photoshop. You already have a very good picture to begin with and with the correct use of the program you end up with a perfect final result. This way the 1987x can be cranked at full blast and the large 100 watt Marshall's will only help out the little brother by simply "emphasizing" the beautiful tone characteristics from the first one and then add clean stereo effects and tons of pure power in addition. More 1959 Marshall's can be added from the "low" line out signal if desired but that is usually not needed due to the extreme power of these monster amps. However, if you are playing on a large (wide) scene this can be an advantage though. Using regular Marshall "rack" type slave amps will not give the same excellent result compared to the "real" thing, 1959 plexi amps.

As far as guitars, I use a desert burst Gibson Les Paul Standard 2008 and have also finally ordered yesterday a Gibson Les Paul Custom (custom shop) Alpine "white". Takes up to 2-3 months to get here though. Can barely wait for that one. Other than that, I have a YJM Strat from 2007 og 3 older Fender Strats from the 70/80/90's with great pickups.

For over 31 years, I have never used amps the "traditional" way and I'll stick to my story for the next 30 years as well!

Tiger

[darkhorse]

Cool rig line, You just answered my question I have been pondering about getting a second amp for stereo spread and panning but running the two amp loops in a R/L split on the loops.

I have been all the way around the block on effects pedals from cheese to big old style chain, to huge rack mount rig back, back to pedal board, then trying several multi-effects processors, now back to pedal board again and ever moving to higher end quality pedals.

Agree with the bypass and buffer chain. I run a high end Radial PB-1 buffer front of chain on amp-in followed by true by-pass and sometimes sandwich my loop chain with a buffer. Zero noise on my rig without using any noise reduction.

[darkhorse]

Originally Posted by Fisticuffs

Bought the Chorus for my bass pedal board. It does the job. Would love to see some toneprints dedicated to bass though. TC? Help a brotha out.

I am on their website and we constantly bitch about them releasing the editor software so we can create out own custom pedals. Seems like they are stuck in the mode of having "names" create patches, I find few to my tastes. You might try the Huff TriChorus toneprint. Best one for my tastes so far on the chorus. I have yet to find a magic one on the delay besides what I can just dial in myself. Keep the tone on the chorus rolled off for bass??? Although a little treb might add to the attack and punch.
Have you ever tried a BBE Sonic Maximizer floor pedal? I love that puppy, it stays on all the time on my board. Adds to the clarity and punch of all tones and pedals (keep the knobbies around 12:00 it is not an "effect" but a frequency phase correction circuit).

[BarbieDoll]

There is a good review of the series here:
TC Electronic TonePrint Series Review : TC Takes Your Fingerprints - Audiofanzine

[darkhorse]

Been a while and I still like my Corona Chorus and Flashback delay. Just great pedals for the price and superb quality. I have yet to go nuts over any of the download toneprints, really not what I would design in a patch, we all still wait to see if TC will ever give us the editor software. The Dan Huff chorus remains one of my favs and I tend to go all over on the delay usually ending up with my own adjusted mode.

I also like the Hardwire series, two great reasonably priced pedal lines.

BTW, FYI, zZounds.com has just added my fav Wampler pedal line to their inventory, what is cool is they offer up to 4 monthly payments, no credit check, no qual and no finance charge. Great way to get several cool pedals and pay them out! I am so excited about Wampler as now I can get several of them at once and pay it out.

[nedorama]

LOVE the flashback delay - tried it out in the store and the Tape setting is fantastic - I kicked my Boss DD6 off the board. Like that it has the adjustable buffer or true bypass settings - nice. Haven't bothered with the Toneprint yet as I'm still happy with all the existing presets.