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Achieve a very liquid phaser type sound (example provided)

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it's been a few years now I've been trying to get a very watery type of phaser effect. I have bought a few phasers such as the Mutron Biphase, moogerfooger phaser, the old racked moog MKPH phaser and still havent managed to produce the sound I'm after.I've uploaded a file with 4 extracts which seem to all have the same effect I'm after. It does sound to me like some kind of phaser but mine do sound quite far away from it. I'm even doubting if it's even a phaser at all or something else that would produce it? (flanger? leslie?)

I'm guessing it's some old analog gear, some vintage guitar effect...

I've uploaded a file with 4 extracts which seem to all have the same effect on a lead synth, any insight would be appreciated !
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The first one has a pretty high resonance. I agree, it sounds like more than you can get out of a biphase or moogerfooger. Since it's on a synthesizer, I'll take a guess that it could be a BP filter driven by a triangle wave, rather than a dedicated phaser.

The last one sounds like a talk box with an envelope filter. I find it annoying.

It would be cool to find out what they are. I love a good phaser.
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Yeah I understand it being annoying, the first three are from a guy making mostly experimental stuff.

As for a bandpass, I have a few analog synths and when controlling the filters with voltage I never get such a liquid sound if you see what I mean. It does sound a bit like a formant filter on some notes...
My first guesses were that it was a lush phaser controlled with an external voltage, but it didnt seem to be that when I tried it with the few phasers I have.
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The last one sounds like a talk box with an envelope filter.

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The Ensoniq samplers and rack FX had that "formant" effect 0 sounded exactly like that - very cool

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The freebie Kjaerhus "classic" VST phaser can get the sound in the first one
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No question, it's NOT a phaser. There's too much of that "pukey" sound you get from increasing the resonance around the filter point. So, what you need is a filter with an LFO, triangle wave, resonance set tastefully, probably low-pass but with the center frequency fairly high. Almost any synth, and things like the MF LPF will do this for you.
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