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sE Electronics RNR-1
sE Electronics RNR-1
Published by Yellowbears
29th December 2011
sE Electronics RNR-1

What happens when an old master of circuit technology and an ambitious studio microphone manufacturer join forces to share their knowledge?

In the case of Rupert Neve and Siwei Zou an extraordinary ribbon microphone that sets a new benchmark for performance and active microphone circuitry.

Last week me and my friend got the chance to test the first mic designed by Rupert Neve in our little studio: the sE Electronics RNR-1. I'm sorry if my English is not perfect, I'll try my best and I hope it won't stop you from reading on!

Let's take a look at the microphone. Oh yeees! It is an eye-catcher. The unusual long design reminds me of the silhouette of the Shanghai Business Towers. The mic is very well built, it should be very resistant against scratches! A strong stand will be necessary, especially for boom operation. This weight is a mark of quality- powerful magnets, good casing( RF protection) and two transformers should never result in low mass.

The newer ribbon mics are usually trying to compensate the same disadvantages, a low output and their mechanical sensibility, by different approaches. However the frequency response rapidly drops at about 10-15kHz. The reason is that the output level will be too soft and will be covered by the noise floor of the mic. So the goal of the creators of the RNR-1 was to develop the first ribbon mic that reproduces the whole available human frequency range linearly.

Because of the high output the RNR-1 doesn't have any special provisions for the preamp. Of course every mic profits of a good preamp, but because even low signals are "transformed" into a lot of output voltage, even the preamps in the fireface 800, as an Avalon 737-Channel Strip gave comparable results. In both tests the result were amazing: An openness and transparency that was never heard before when recording with ribbon mics, but still keeping the typical ribbon mic sound! Immediately the mic convinced us for vocal recordings! In the higher frequency range the vocals are reproduced perfectly straight away. S-Sounds are very smooth and discreet- No need for a De-esser! As opposed to other ribbon mics the RNR-1 served us with a more plastic and natural Top-End! Just great! The integrated High-Pass-Filter was a nice help to avoid too much bass. Anyhow a Pop-Filter and an exact adjustment of the mic shouldn't be missed.
What really surprised us is when we recorded an acoustic guitar. In the past this was a " banned "area for ribbon mics. The very low noise floor with the extended high range gave the possibility to reproduce fantastic results: It sounded so natural, even better than with a condenser mic! This is probably a real secret for all guitar players and engineers.
This response is consistent across all sources: drums, electric guitar, bass guitar, voice, harmonium and upright piano. The mid-range has the classic smoothness and clarity for which ribbon mics are renowned!

Summary:

The sE Electronics RNR-1 fulfills all ribbon-mic-expectations. In terms of high frequency definition the RNR-1 outshines all other ribbon mics. Because of this characteristic the mic is usable for everything! It gives voice and instruments an own, smoky character, with a nice body! This mic is really a hot recommendation. The only minus point this mic gets is, that it is relatively expensive. If I had enough money, I would grab myself one for sure; I hope I can do so in the near future!

Thank you very much for reading, I hope you liked it!

All the best from Switzerland

Oliver
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By dsykut on 4th January 2012
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More on the SE RNR1

I too had the opportunity to spend time with this impressive new mic, the RNR1 from Se. Going in I had very high expectations..I had previously purchased (and reviewed here) a pair of the RN17's, the small diaphragm condensors from the SE/Neve lineup. The 17's had exceeded my expectations, and the rep from Fingerprint Audio (USA distributor) had me salavating at what the RNR1 might offer...a great sounding ribbon mic with all the characteristics we know and love...PLUS great, open, shimmery high end response. Could it deliver?

The previous posting says it nicely....this is a great sounding microphone all around. But I wanted to add a few specifics from my trials.

I'm a big proponent of traditional stereo microphone techniques....M/S, Blumlein, you name it I've probably used it and will use it again. Some reflections on the RNR1 used in this way.....

1)In M/S array with a LDC tube microphone....recording a live concert, used to capture a string quartet, recorded via the a Grace M201 w/ AD option. This was one of my first runs with the mic, and I certainly wasn't used to it's frequency response yet. But it was hard to tell the difference, monitoring pre MS summing between the tube LDC and the RNR1....LDC wasn't particularly high end, a Sterling ST69 tube multi-pattern. This was disconcerting for a few reasons...1)the sterling has a somewhat audible noise floor, suggesting that maybe the RNR isn't quite so quiet? 2) The character and detail between the two wasn't all that different...certainly not what I expected puting a high end, big price tag ribbon against a $500 condensor.

2)In blumlein, coincident figure of 8's.....this is where the units really shines. I had two demo models, and set them up twice...solo acoustic guitar and solo cello. I had to admit some skepticism moving into this part of the test after the string quartet experience. On the noise floor issue....well, the noise floor wasn't there this time, even when compared to my Rn17's which run at relatively high gain because of their immense head room. My sense is that the null points in the pattern are not entirely null, and during the live performance i was catching an HVAC vent that I hadn't noticed while setting up. In the solo situations, working in a pair, the mics were awesome. The solo acoustic player showed influences of Phil Keaggy and some strong fingerstyle chops, stylistically adding in finger percussion on the instrument's top, harmonics, etc....the signals from the mics reflected all very well, and I found myself greatful for the extra top end...the reproduction of the harmonics was well balanced, had no stridency, and was detailed. The cello recording, after some finesse on the positioning, was equally impressive. I got a sense of the complete picture of the performance, a nice mix of the resonant parts of the cello sound mixed with bow noise.

Not related to stereo usage...

1)These mics sound great, but are not easy. What I experienced was that they were very subject to their placement. I might almost call them finecky. Out of the sweet spot, which my first attempts in using them apparently were, they were disappointing. You have to spend some time and find the right spot for them...it's like focusing a camera, it's obvious when the lense is dialed in properly. It's interesting to note that I was also testing out SE's 4400a's and had a very similar experience....the mics just seem to be very particular in their positioning.

2)I had chosen my Grace preamp for the test precisely because it is neutral, transparent, and musically detailed...it also has a ribbon mode, not needed here because the RNR1's are active. What surprised me is that I enjoyed the sound via the grace, however found the results when using a preamp with some color to be far better. Units tried here included a Neve 5024 and a UA 6176. Running the mics throuhg something with a little more attitude definitely brings out the best in them, brings them to life. They spent most of the week patched to pre's other than my grace after making this discovery.

3)Features...the fit and finish is what I've come to expect from SE...these are build substantially, the packaging (flight case, wood display box, etc) is actually over built. Where I hesitate to post this as a solid 9 is the shock mount. It might have been that the demo units I used had been through many hands and perhaps mistreated, but i found threading the mics onto the shockount to be less than easy. Taking a look it didn't look as if the threads on either had been cross thread or mangled in any way, so I have some reservations about the machining in this small but important detail. At the pricepoint I'd like to see a nice build on the shockmount over all, a feeling i had regarding the include shockmount from the Rn17's as well. The matte black is a nice touch for low visibility appilications (live recording, film, theater, etc) but the metal of the mounts themselves doesn't give me a sense of high end the way something from Neumann or korby or other top shelf makers does.

All in all, this is a great product and i find i'm really splitting hairs and offering observations to help a potential purchaser, not to discourage them. I've concluded after spending a week with the RNR1's I'm certain to add one if not two to my mic cabinet. They're certainly something you have to adjust your expectations of.....it's not going to sound like a Royer or an AEA or a Coles....but it's definitely a ribbon sounding mic...just minus the need to bump the high end or augment with a second mic to catch the HF you always missed with one.

Worth the price....it's steep, but having played with these any other ribbons, you get what you pay for. If SE would address the shockmount question i'd give this a qualified 10.
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By cmartins10 on 21st February 2012
My RNR1 doesn't sound like your description.
The self noise is very high for it's price and the mic sound very harsh at sibilants...this is my second RNR1, the first one had the same problems and the factory replace it for this one. I have tried with 4 diferent preamps and the hiss noise is the same... This unit has other problem, captures electrical interferences when i turn on a light switch or when i touch the mic grill. I don't know what to do with this situation... I thought it was an wire electrical problem but i disconected my macbook pro from the electricity and use just it's battery and a Mbox3 usb connected to the RNR1...and those electrical interferences continues...I'm very disapointed
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