red capsules for decca tree

[deve]

Did anyone try Red's M50 capsules ( R4 i guess) with their Type A or Type B mic bodies or a gefell cmv 563 for decca tree? seems like a cheaper alternative

[MJGreene Audio]

Great question. I used a pair of Blue Bottles the Omni capsule for and orchestral session and although they were not M-50's they were very nice. I would love to try a pair of the Red's with the Omni capsules.

I bet it would sound very good.

[deve]

I saw gefell cmv563s for about 800 euros and red r4 capsules are about 850$ so for the price of one m150 I thought I coud have three decent mics.

[T.RayBullard]

Originally Posted by deve

I saw gefell cmv563s for about 800 euros and red r4 capsules are about 850$ so for the price of one m150 I thought I coud have three decent mics.

beware the mic technique handbook gestapo who will tell you that only m50s or m150s should be used and only XXX spacing with XXX preamps and XXX converters...

...interesting about the 563s...

[deve]

[QUOTE=T.RayBullard;928675]beware the mic technique handbook gestapo who will tell you that only m50s or m150s should be used and only XXX spacing with XXX preamps and XXX converters...

I don't care to much about the rest but I want to know what are those xxx preamps. Really, is there a standard thing that everybody uses? I have a sytek mpx4ii with burr browns on 3 and 4. Lynx aurora for conversion. Will sytek do the job assuming that I have decent mics or should I invest in what?

[T.RayBullard]

[QUOTE=deve;928761]

Originally Posted by T.RayBullard

beware the mic technique handbook gestapo who will tell you that only m50s or m150s should be used and only XXX spacing with XXX preamps and XXX converters...

I don't care to much about the rest but I want to know what are those xxx preamps. Really, is there a standard thing that everybody uses? I have a sytek mpx4ii with burr browns on 3 and 4. Lynx aurora for conversion. Will sytek do the job assuming that I have decent mics or should I invest in what?

there are standard mics that those who "stick to the book" use(DPA Microphones,NEWMANN microphones(u89, tlm170) Schoeps Microphones, Millennia Preamps, Prism or DcS converters, m50 or m150 for decca tree, blah blah blah) and the

(DPA>>>Millennia chain has to be the most boring, watching paint dry, lifeless chain of all time! the one time I used this chain for an entire concert, I walked out with a case of rheumatoid arthritis, a limp, 42 gray hairs, and an enlarged prostate!)!dfegad ....i have DPA and millennia..but those two together...ill pass thanks)


...but I aint one of those people, and many people whose work I admire aint by the book either..too many choices out there ! brave new world !!!!
the syteks are very respected, from what ive heard of them...from what people say here....a well respected and esteemed classical guru here,"plush" uses Sytec and brags on them...so that is an endoresment!

and I highly reccomend DAV Electronics amps(do a search on DAV BG-1) for this sort of work..but yes..the syteks will do a marvelous job im sure..

[hughesmr]

[QUOTE=T.RayBullard;928882]

Originally Posted by deve

(DPA>>>Millennia chain has to be the most boring, watching paint dry, lifeless chain of all time! the one time I used this chain for an entire concert, I walked out with a case of rheumatoid arthritis, a limp, 42 gray hairs, and an enlarged prostate!)!dfegad ....

Hmmm. your pic seems to indicate that you get pretty good distance, even with that enlarged prostate!

[Omicron_9]

Greetings.

No Decca tree experience, but I have had experience will the preamps in question. I do acoustic and classical chamber recording. Used to use a Sytek and a Millennia. I'd press the Sytek into service if I ran out of channels on the Millennia. The Sytek is a very repsectable preamp. Then I got a DAV BG-2. Believe what you hear about these. I sold the Sytek; kept the Millennia. I would say I like the Millennia and the DAV equally; if I had to limit myself to just one, I don't know which I'd choose. To my way of thinking, and this is just one person's opinion, they are equal but different. I love having both from which to choose. I would say you couldn't go wrong with either; ideally, listen to both and select the one you like. Although price-wise, 4 channels of DAV are less than 1/2 of 4 channels of Millennia.

Regards,
-O.9

[d_fu]

Originally Posted by T.RayBullard

the mic technique handbook gestapo

This is a highly inappropriate choice of words, Teddy, whoever it refers to. Shouldn't you know better?

[audibell]

The irony, oh, the irony.
WT

[Petrus]

Decca tree is a microphone, not mic pre-amp or converter technology "standard". For a "proper" and "purist" tree three identical omnis with spherical body are needed (for extra directionality at high frequencies). If not M50 or M150 Neumanns, then standard omnis with API balls. DPA, Josephson, Gefell and dozens of hobbyists make them. Some of them could well be even better than the original Neumanns, but the legacy lives.

[Rolo 46]

Why drag this up
Are we flagellants ?