Originally Posted by Samc
Do you actually believe this! I had no idea that any of the companies you listed above...including record companies developes audio equipment.
Can you list even one piece of audio gear or technology that was specifically developed because of, or "in the corporate arena".
NO...It's not even close! riding the fader while the company CEO gives his speach is not the same as mixing music
But, unlike music mixers, it's the PA company that hires and pays you, the corporate clients don't give a hoot.
Music mixers do this everyday, it's called advancing the gig, even studio guys have to advance their gigs.
No Danny, the sound guy doesn't make the event happen; the event planners make it happen.
They tell you what time your truck should arrive; what entry you must use when you load your gear; where you can run your cables etc. They even tell you what color shirt you and the rest of the crew must wear on the day of the event.
Again, you don't know what you are talking about SAMC!
Either that or you have had some bad experiences in the corporate world!
I was talking about ME and what I do.
I was clarifying the corporate sound experience.
You don't do it obviously because you are making HUGE assumptions about how things work.
No one tells me when the truck arrives. They might tell me when the room is booked.
The client doesn't tell me what entrance I have to use. The venue might.
The client doesn't tell me where to run cables. That is common sense.
They don't tell me what clothes to wear either.
Clients hire ME to design and implement a show.
I often design the stage and the lighting, too!
So maybe you would want to call me the technical director?
To me an "event planner" hires catering, arranges tables and decorates.
I don't worry about a title.
I make shows happen.
I have mixed HUNDREDS of bands live in clubs and arenas.
I have mixed over 100 major label acts livel over a twenty city radio network.
I have sat for THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS of hours in a recording studio recording everything and everyone that could open their wallet or sign a check. Bands, radio spots, TV spots, production music, SFX, ADR and a bit of foley.
I have mixed HUNDREDS of corporate events, too.
I know the difference in what is required as a mixer!
I wish it was a simple as riding gain on the CEO, but it isn't!
The average corporate event mic/line list will have more inputs than the average band mic/line list. On top of this... you'll often have a one off show for a name act that is entertainment. 32 plus inputs all week and then a full band on one night.
My point was to learn everything and do everything that is offered!
Learn it all because it all adds up.
Once you get enough experience clients hire YOU to MAKE THE SHOW HAPPEN.
Also, listern to what Fletcher says, but realize that he is not in his twenties and his friends are not just starting out. They have some experience or they wouldn't be getting those figures.
(That $150.00 per day per diem is B.S. Fletcher because if you make more than the per diem amount allowed by the I.R.S. you have to pay taxes on it, so it isn't really per diem. There isn't a city in the U.S. that the I.R.S. guidelines alllow more than about $50.00 per day. Most are between $42.00 and $46.00. If you make $4k per week AND $150 per day the IRS will tax you for the $4k PLUS anything above the maximum allowed for any given city in that "per diem" money. I know this because I WRITE PER DIEM CHECKS FOR CREWS!)
There is more money in live events.
If you are young, the thought of riding around in a tour bus might sound fun.
If you have done it and you are a normal person then one U.S. tour will convince you that it is not very fun.
I have to ride a pretty nice tour bus for three hours next Saturday and I dread the three hour trip back. VERY, VERY un-comfortable!
Then again, I am an American Airlines Platinum Advantage flier and I am a bit spoiled.
I have to get up at 4:00am on about half of the Friday mornings each year to catch the first flight out (I can go a bit later going west.)
I have to wake up at 4:00 am on most Mondays, too since I can't leave the venue quick enough to catch most Sunday night flights.
It might sound FUN to stay in a nice room at the Flamingo in Las Vegas for twentyone days, but it's not.
I don't mind staying in nice hotels (most Vegas hotels are NOT nice hotels), but I like my own house and family.
I prefer to maximize my income versus time away from home.
I'll give advice based on my experience because I have done a lot of stuff.
I am lucky in a lot of senses.
I do know what I am talking about.
Live makes more money, but you have to travel a lot to make good money at it.
I have figured out how to travel as little as possible and still make decent money.