Iggy and The Stooges Tour Rider..

[T.RayBullard]

Very well written..more like literature!
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...1iggypop1.html

[84K]

Thanks Teddy! You Rock!!

Raw Power is in my top 5 all time albums.

[RoundBadge]

Great stuff...thanks

[Tubthumper]

Killer. I'm going to go put on Funhouse REAL loud and re-read that rider.

[84K]

Look out honey cause I'm usin' technology

[Tubthumper]

Ain't got time to make no apologies.

For my verbose stage guy.

[84K]

[Bob Ross]

I wish life could be...

[ocianic]

Very, very funny!!

Thanks

[T.RayBullard]

Originally Posted by 84K

Thanks Teddy! You Rock!!

Raw Power is in my top 5 all time albums.

it is one of mine too!thumbsup thanks for the kind words man!

[max cooper]

Pumpin' for Jill

[dbbubba]

The only thing is that "funny" riders almost garantee that you'll NOT get what you expect.
Also, the more whinney and anal you are... the less the promoter will try to do what is asked in the rider.
Seen it a hundred times!

We call them wish lists.
My kids make them at Christmas time.

The sound and lighting people don't adore the artist and they are not paying to see them.
The artist is paying them to put up with them for brief time and try to hammer out a show.

DB

[Samc]

Originally Posted by dbbubba

The only thing is that "funny" riders almost garantee that you'll NOT get what you expect.
Also, the more whinney and anal you are... the less the promoter will try to do what is asked in the rider.
Seen it a hundred times!

We call them wish lists.
My kids make them at Christmas time.

The sound and lighting people don't adore the artist and they are not paying to see them.
The artist is paying them to put up with them for brief time and try to hammer out a show.

DB

This is only true if you're a no-name opening for DJs in discotheques.

[T.RayBullard]

yes, if you are Iggy pop or someone else with a name...you generally get what the heck you want.

[Sizzleboy]

Originally Posted by dbbubba

The only thing is that "funny" riders almost garantee that you'll NOT get what you expect.
Also, the more whinney and anal you are... the less the promoter will try to do what is asked in the rider.
Seen it a hundred times!

We call them wish lists.
My kids make them at Christmas time.

The sound and lighting people don't adore the artist and they are not paying to see them.
The artist is paying them to put up with them for brief time and try to hammer out a show.

DB

I see you speak from experience. The thing is, so does Iggy, and the rider seems to be working just fine for him.

[eligit]

do any venues actually read these things all the way through and do any of the stuff on em? down to the type of wine and beer? seems a little insane. but i have never been involved in the big time so what so i know...?

[84K]

Originally Posted by T.RayBullard

yes, if you are Iggy pop or someone else with a name...you generally get what the heck you want.

Brother, knowing that you are the biggest Cash fan out there, you are in to classical music and YOU LIKE THE STOOGES is very impressive to me. Not many people can say that. Rock On!

[Samc]

Originally Posted by eligit

do any venues actually read these things all the way through and do any of the stuff on em? down to the type of wine and beer? seems a little insane. but i have never been involved in the big time so what so i know...?

Don't be fooled by the brevity in this particular rider, the rider is a very important part of the contract between the artist/band and the promoter.

How far promoters go to respect a band's rider generally depend on the name, reputation and exigence of the band and its management, and also the integrity of the promoter. Most experienced touring bands will have their riders respected for the most part, (especially when touring in the EU).

[max cooper]

T. Ray,

You're into Elliot Smith and Tom Waits, so I gotta ask, are you an Eels fan?

If you haven't heard much, it's a real treat. I think "Blinking Lights and Other Revelations" is a great place to start, and then work backwards. Absolutely beautiful stuff.

[T.RayBullard]

Originally Posted by 84K

Brother, knowing that you are the biggest Cash fan out there, you are in to classical music and YOU LIKE THE STOOGES is very impressive to me. Not many people can say that. Rock On!

thanks so much, I had a confusing adolescence and got into a bunch of different genres.


country isnt much different than punk, so it was sort of a natural thing for me to play johnny or waylon , then to pop in a minutemen or misfits/black flag/op ivy/minor threat cd. same thing at the core..just packaged differently.

[T.RayBullard]

Originally Posted by max cooper

T. Ray,

You're into Elliot Smith and Tom Waits, so I gotta ask, are you an Eels fan?

If you haven't heard much, it's a real treat. I think "Blinking Lights and Other Revelations" is a great place to start, and then work backwards. Absolutely beautiful stuff.

oh yeah...i had a thing for the eels a while back. beautiful freak and electro shock are my favorites by that band.

If I had to list the soundtrack of my life , it would be


the cure---staring at the sea, paris
dinosaur Jr..--where you been
metallica---ride the lightning
helmet--meantime, betty
neil young--harvest
meat puppets-- meat puppets II
the smiths--meat is murder
janes addiction--nothings shocking
Op ivy= op ivy
Iggy and the Stooges--raw power
Velvet Underground--the VU and nico
My bloody valentine--loveless
the oak ridge boys--the best of the oak ridge boys
the louvin brothers--satan is real
Hank Williams-- your cheatin heart
Minutemen-we jam econo
REM--murmer, dead letter office ,lifes rich pageant, document
fugazi-repeater
the dead milkmen--beezelbubba
all of Johny Cash's albums
Gaither Vocal Band---Acapella
Waylon Jennings--:Lonesome , Ornery and Mean
george jones--the grand tour
ferlin husky--gone
the misfits--the misfits
black flag--everything went black
jesus christ superstar--original movie cast album
the national--alligator
Third Sister Lovers, Big Star (actually ANYTHING by Big Star)
Ziggy Stardust by David Bowie
AIC Unplugged
Dwight Yoakam--dwightyoakamacoustic.net
Glass Bead Game - JMR-15 - John Marks Records
Test Record 1- Depth of Image - CD7900 Opus 3
Brahms/Mozart Clarinet Quitets, Mitchell Lurie and the Muir Quartet on Eco classics-
Brahms complete trios- Beaux Arts Trio. on Phillips cheap duo label.
Lauridsen- Lux Aeterna, LA Master Chorale. On RCM (what a choir is supposed to sound like)
Barber- Complete Songs - Secrets of the Old w/ Cheryl Studer, Thomas Hampson, John Browning and the Emerson Quartet (DG)
Arvo Part- Te Deum (ECM)
Daugherty- Metropolis Symphony (Argo)
Schubert-Lieder w/ Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau and Gerald Moore (DG)
Shostakovich Symphony #1 and #7, Chicago/Bernstein (DG)
Messiaen- Concert a quatre/Les Offrandes oubliees, etc... Orchestre de l'Opera Bastille, Myung-whun Chung (DG)
Smetana- Ma Vlast Levine/Vienna (DG)
Schwantner- Percussion Concerto, Evelyn Glennie/National Symphony/Slatkin (RCA Red Seal) -
Te Deum (ECM)
Rachel Podger - Bach Sonatas & Partitas [solo] on baroque violin, Channel Classics
Shaw conducting Poulenc Mass in G Major, Quatre Petite Prieres de St. Francois, Quatre Motets de Penitence, & Quatre Motets de Noel - Telarc
All Baltimore Consort stuff, Dorian Recordings
Chanticleer- Missa pro defunctis, Motets by Palestrina. Teldec
Old Vox recordings of The Fine Arts Quartet playing Haydn, particularly Op. 76
Aaron Rosand playing music of Pablo de Sarasate. Vox
William Primrose and Rudolph Firkusny playing Brahms Sonatas for viola and piano
Old recordings of Rudolph Serkin and George Szell - Brahms Piano Concertos
Richard Goode - Beethoven Piano Sonatas
South San Gabriel---The Carlton Chronicles
I see Hawks in LA--California Country,Grapevine
Uncle Tupelo--No Depression, March 16/20, 1992
Son Volt--Trace, Okemah and the Melody of Riot
Scud Mountain Boys-Massachusets
Ryan Adams--Heartbreaker, 29, Demolition, Cold Roses
Whiskeytown--Faithless Street, Pneumonia, Strangers Almanac
Wilco--Being there, YHF, Summerteeth
Bonnie"prince"billy--superwolf, I see a darkness
magnolia electric company--What Comes after the blues
Songs:Ohia--Songs:ohia
Jayhawks--Tomorow the green grass, Smile
marah-lets cut the crap and hook up later tonight, kids in philly
Tom waits--Closing Time(his ONLY country-ish album)
Merle Haggard/George Jones--A taste of yesterdays wine!
16 Horsepower--Sackcloth n Ashes
The blasters--the blasters collection
The blood oranges--corn river
Dwight yoakam--dwight yoakam acoustic.net
Kelly willis-the MCA recordings
Jim white--wrong eyed jesus(and make sure to check out the movie--searching for the wrong eyed jesus!)
Paul Westerberg--14 Songs
John Doe-- Forever hasnt happened yet
Springsteen-Nebraska, Devils and Dust
M. Ward--Transistor Radio..
The silver jews--starlite walker
Gram Parsons--Grevious angel!
The mountain goats--we shal lall be healed
My morning jacket--it still moves
Lucero--Tennesee
Merle Haggard--Roots Vol. 1
Townes Van Zandt--Rear View Mirror
Woven Hand-Mosaic
Nick Cave--Kicking against the pricks
Rough Trade Records--ALt COuntry COmpliation
Haynes Boys--Guardian Angel
Smoke-Heaven on a popsicle stick
The knitters--the modern sounds of the knitters
Lambchop---....is a woman(sounds like DALLAS theme music on drugs! GREAT!)
Handsome family--milk and scissors, odessa, through the trees
Golden Smog--Down by the old mainstream, weird tales
Loose Fur--Born again in the USA, Loose Fur
Alejandro Escovedo--thirteeen, a man under the influence
Vic Chesnutt--the salesman and bernadeatta, ghetto bells
Johnny Cash --american I_V, sun recordings
Bottle rockets--bottle rockets, brooklyn side

[max cooper]

Yeah, good list. Punk and good Country are related, to me.

Johnny Cash and Johnny Rotten are kind of kindred spirits.

Alejandro Escovedo is cool. My band back in the day used to gig with the True Believers and Buick MacKane. I dig his voice. He used to do a deal called the Alejandro Escovedo Orchestra. Great song called "Five Hearts Breaking".

That Te Deum disk is a beauty. Great for Sunday morning.

The Cure is one of my all time, all time, faves.

That Trilogy DVD is one of the best concert films.

[T.RayBullard]

I wanted to reccomend to you Benjamin Smoke , the DVD

he was the lead singer of smoke(a fantastic band that never came into their own right) and was a gay man with AIDS..the film is beyond great...and the band...amazing.


I also want to reccomend Searching for the Wrong Eyed Jesus which is Jim White's chronicle of the south...

Originally Posted by max cooper

Yeah, good list. Punk and good Country are related, to me.

Johnny Cash and Johnny Rotten are kind of kindred spirits.

Alejandro Escovedo is cool. My band back in the day used to gig with the True Believers and Buick MacKane. I dig his voice. He used to do a deal called the Alejandro Escovedo Orchestra. Great song called "Five Hearts Breaking".

That Te Deum disk is a beauty. Great for Sunday morning.

The Cure is one of my all time, all time, faves.

That Trilogy DVD is one of the best concert films.

[max cooper]

Originally Posted by T.RayBullard

I wanted to reccomend to you Benjamin Smoke , the DVD

he was the lead singer of smoke(a fantastic band that never came into their own right) and was a gay man with AIDS..the film is beyond great...and the band...amazing.


I also want to reccomend Searching for the Wrong Eyed Jesus which is Jim White's chronicle of the south...

Cool. I actualy almost rented the Jim White DVD last week but I got "The Devil and Daniel Johnston" instead. I'll certainly seek those out.

[T.RayBullard]

Originally Posted by max cooper

Cool. I actualy almost rented the Jim White DVD last week but I got "The Devil and Daniel Johnston" instead. I'll certainly seek those out.

oh, they are great, man...ive been watching the willie nelson film...Songwriter, today...how embarrasingly horriblel! and wonderful!

[mitchell]

I play in the eighties band Berlin, and we're not a super big deal band, but they are generally pretty on top of the rider stuff... i.e. food/wine/towels, etc.

I just wish backline guys could read and interpret the words "Nord Lead" without that two word phrase someone being processed in their brains as "hey, we just got the new one, they'll love this!", which results in them bringing me a Nord Electro electric piano/organ. And that a Korg Triton with 48mb of RAM in it means that the little memory slots have 48mb of RAM in them, not the stock 16mb that was in it when they pulled it off the shelf.

And I wish they could bring me a keyboard stand that doesn't look and function as if it had been dropped down thirty flights of stairs prior to its arrival!

But all of this has more to do with backline companies being ingnorant than anything else. Backline companies seem to understand three things... Marshall stack, Ampeg SVT, and DW drumkit. Anything more complex than that and you're doomed...

mitchell

[max cooper]

Originally Posted by mitchell

I play in the eighties band Berlin

I love "Metro".

[KrisNY]

AWESOME. Thanks T. Ray!