Rush Live in Rio new DVD

Alécio Costa · 14th November 2003, 05:50 AM

HI folks!
Here in Brazil people are very excited about the recent release of Rush Live in Rio - DVD.

As a big fan of this group and all the tech stuff behind their production, I also went after my DVD copy. It was released in the USA before arriving Brazil.

Several times we almost cried watching that very nice performance on screen, entirely recorded in Brazil and seeing that they wanted to come to FLorianópolis ( the island where I live )because they found it beautiful!!

However, we were completly disappointed with the sound quality of this DVD.
Show of hands sounds 100x better and it was done in 1989, maybe?

Although Geddy´s bass sounds as never before, the mix balance sounds like an amateur mix.

Sometimes the vocals are buried in the middle of the mix, too much low mid/reverb on guitars.

The keyboards sometimes sound like a plastic $50 toy kid.

The mastering side... You can feel pumping all the time.
Looks like mix/mastering was done in 2 days.

We know they had some serious technical problems: in one show their pm1D stopped functioning for a few seconds, some midi gear lost memory, lots of delay and so.

Has anyone else noticed this? I have listened both in stereo and dolby.

I am still listening in other monitoring systems just to confirm what a few guys ( including me) have also reported.

Jax · 14th November 2003, 05:56 AM

Hmm... maybe it wasn't targeted to audio engineers.

Just a thought.

Steve Smith · 14th November 2003, 06:11 AM

WHo mixed it? I know ( IIRC ) that Kooster recorded it, and there was a problem with the word clock feed from video and the backup tapes had to be used for the masters.. I think 16 bit DTRS machienes .. not that DA88s sound that bad.

Dave Martin · 14th November 2003, 04:50 PM

When I saw the subject heading, I had this vision of a fat, deaf conservative trying to squeeze into a Speedo...

Steve Smith · 14th November 2003, 04:54 PM

God, sometimes i hate being such a visualizing person.

Alécio Costa · 14th November 2003, 05:13 PM

Drums, bass and vocals sound nice. Mix balance is bad. Keyboards and guitar sound very strange.

No4PCs · 1st January 2006, 08:17 PM

E ae Aecio, parece que os engenheiros de gravação e o Rush definiram optar por deixar o som original do dia, sem overdubs como quase todo mundo está fazendo com os dvds de shows ao vivo.
O Rush bem que poderia refazer varias partes em estudio e depois editar, com overdubs e " dobrar " a voz e todos os instrumentos de novo em estudio, mas não eles foram honestos. O som de gravação ao vivo é aquilo mesmo, a não ser que voce seje desonesto a ponto de " dobrar " tudo em estudio, o que no meu ver, seria mais um " som " de show de DVD " ao vivo "
Feliz 2006

No4PCs · 1st January 2006, 08:19 PM

The Rush and they engineers did the right thing. No overdubs in studio.
Peace.
Happy 2006

T_R_S · 1st January 2006, 08:20 PM

I saw the DVD in a movie theater about 2 years ago. It sounded OK in there. I wonder if it was re-mixed is been out in Canada a long time.

rynugz007 · 1st January 2006, 08:43 PM

the rush in rio dvd is alright. The energy from the crowd seems pretty amazing. Its kinda wild hearing 60,000 people sing along to the melodys of YYZ. Bass sounds mean, drums sound ok, everything else kinda sounds like balls. You can hear neil peart pushing and dragging all over the beat. Kinda lets you know after all these years that he's actually a real human being.

They just put out a new DVD called R30 from their 30th anniversary tour. It sounds a shit ton better and the performances are quite a bit tighter too. I think it was recorded in germany. Plus theres lots of cool extras like old videos of xanadu and farewell to kings.

Jeff16years · 1st January 2006, 09:26 PM

yes this was recorded by kooster.

i haven't heard this dvd yet but i'm sure that if it doesn't sound amazing then it was mixed by someone other than kooster.

as a friend and co worked of kooster i can definatly say that EVERYTHING he does sounds great.

read this Gearslutz post:

http://gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php3?t=1714

rynugz007 · 2nd January 2006, 12:21 AM

it was mixed by some fellow named james "jimbo" barton

jdunn · 2nd January 2006, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rynugz007

They just put out a new DVD called R30 from their 30th anniversary tour. It sounds a shit ton better and the performances are quite a bit tighter too. I think it was recorded in germany. Plus theres lots of cool extras like old videos of xanadu and farewell to kings.

Yeah, the new one does indeed sound a lot better than that Rio DVD. You'll want to pick it up. Geddy's voice is pretty relaxed on this show too, once he gets warmed up. I saw the R30 show at the Hollywood Bowl, complete with the right speaker column blasting my ears out. This DVD is cool because I can watch it at human listening levels without the ear damage.

It's worth it just for the opening medley alone. Red Barchetta and Between The Wheels are cool too.

Sounds Great · 2nd January 2006, 03:28 AM

Excellent. Just bought the DVD on Ebay. Should be rockin' out in a few days.

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14th November 2003, 05:50 AM	#1
Alécio Costa Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brazil, Florianópolis/SC Posts: 1,251	Rush Live in Rio new DVD HI folks! Here in Brazil people are very excited about the recent release of Rush Live in Rio - DVD. As a big fan of this group and all the tech stuff behind their production, I also went after my DVD copy. It was released in the USA before arriving Brazil. Several times we almost cried watching that very nice performance on screen, entirely recorded in Brazil and seeing that they wanted to come to FLorianópolis ( the island where I live )because they found it beautiful!! However, we were completly disappointed with the sound quality of this DVD. Show of hands sounds 100x better and it was done in 1989, maybe? Although Geddy´s bass sounds as never before, the mix balance sounds like an amateur mix. Sometimes the vocals are buried in the middle of the mix, too much low mid/reverb on guitars. The keyboards sometimes sound like a plastic $50 toy kid. The mastering side... You can feel pumping all the time. Looks like mix/mastering was done in 2 days. We know they had some serious technical problems: in one show their pm1D stopped functioning for a few seconds, some midi gear lost memory, lots of delay and so. Has anyone else noticed this? I have listened both in stereo and dolby. I am still listening in other monitoring systems just to confirm what a few guys ( including me) have also reported. __________________ Alécio Costa Studio Music Production/Mastering http://www.aleciocosta.com Listen to my album at: http://www.audiostreet.net/artist.aspx?artistid=38915

14th November 2003, 05:56 AM	#2
Jax Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Rafael, CA Posts: 3,660	Hmm... maybe it wasn't targeted to audio engineers. Just a thought. __________________ When the music is good, the mix is that much better.

14th November 2003, 06:11 AM	#3
Steve Smith Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,394	WHo mixed it? I know ( IIRC ) that Kooster recorded it, and there was a problem with the word clock feed from video and the backup tapes had to be used for the masters.. I think 16 bit DTRS machienes .. not that DA88s sound that bad. __________________ Steve Smith - Unorignal, yet commonplace.

14th November 2003, 04:50 PM	#4
Dave Martin Moderator emeritus Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 3,169	When I saw the subject heading, I had this vision of a fat, deaf conservative trying to squeeze into a Speedo... __________________ Dave Martin Java Jive Studio www.javajivestudio.com Cuppa Joe Records www.cuppajoerecords.com Nashville, TN

14th November 2003, 04:54 PM	#5
Steve Smith Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,394	God, sometimes i hate being such a visualizing person. __________________ Steve Smith - Unorignal, yet commonplace.

14th November 2003, 05:13 PM	#6
Alécio Costa Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brazil, Florianópolis/SC Posts: 1,251	Drums, bass and vocals sound nice. Mix balance is bad. Keyboards and guitar sound very strange. __________________ Alécio Costa Studio Music Production/Mastering http://www.aleciocosta.com Listen to my album at: http://www.audiostreet.net/artist.aspx?artistid=38915

1st January 2006, 08:17 PM	#7
No4PCs Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Brasil Posts: 714	Deixaram crú E ae Aecio, parece que os engenheiros de gravação e o Rush definiram optar por deixar o som original do dia, sem overdubs como quase todo mundo está fazendo com os dvds de shows ao vivo. O Rush bem que poderia refazer varias partes em estudio e depois editar, com overdubs e " dobrar " a voz e todos os instrumentos de novo em estudio, mas não eles foram honestos. O som de gravação ao vivo é aquilo mesmo, a não ser que voce seje desonesto a ponto de " dobrar " tudo em estudio, o que no meu ver, seria mais um " som " de show de DVD " ao vivo " Feliz 2006

1st January 2006, 08:19 PM	#8
No4PCs Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Brasil Posts: 714	Honesty The Rush and they engineers did the right thing. No overdubs in studio. Peace. Happy 2006

1st January 2006, 08:20 PM	#9
T_R_S Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canuk Posts: 3,409	I saw the DVD in a movie theater about 2 years ago. It sounded OK in there. I wonder if it was re-mixed is been out in Canada a long time. __________________ === NEW Into Eternity Video Pre-Release

1st January 2006, 08:43 PM	#10
rynugz007 Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: cincinnati, OH Posts: 308	the rush in rio dvd is alright. The energy from the crowd seems pretty amazing. Its kinda wild hearing 60,000 people sing along to the melodys of YYZ. Bass sounds mean, drums sound ok, everything else kinda sounds like balls. You can hear neil peart pushing and dragging all over the beat. Kinda lets you know after all these years that he's actually a real human being. They just put out a new DVD called R30 from their 30th anniversary tour. It sounds a shit ton better and the performances are quite a bit tighter too. I think it was recorded in germany. Plus theres lots of cool extras like old videos of xanadu and farewell to kings. __________________ "heres 50 bucks in case i call you a bitch later"

1st January 2006, 09:26 PM	#11
Jeff16years Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Weymouth, MA U.S.A. Posts: 687	yes this was recorded by kooster. i haven't heard this dvd yet but i'm sure that if it doesn't sound amazing then it was mixed by someone other than kooster. as a friend and co worked of kooster i can definatly say that EVERYTHING he does sounds great. read this Gearslutz post: http://gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php3?t=1714 __________________ www.sonicdisorder.com

2nd January 2006, 12:21 AM	#12
rynugz007 Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: cincinnati, OH Posts: 308	it was mixed by some fellow named james "jimbo" barton __________________ "heres 50 bucks in case i call you a bitch later"

2nd January 2006, 03:28 AM	#14
Sounds Great Gear Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Twin Cities, USA Posts: 10,800	Excellent. Just bought the DVD on Ebay. Should be rockin' out in a few days. __________________ You awake with a start To just the beating of your heart. Just one man beneath the sky, Just two ears, just two eyes.

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