Faure Requiem on 3 mikes..
Old 17th August 2013
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Faure Requiem on 3 mikes..

2 x MKH 30 on a tall C stand behind conductor
1 x MKH 40 next to conductor for soloists
On a hot July evening with thunder in the air.
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Old 17th August 2013
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Here is a pic of the run through.
Roger
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Old 17th August 2013
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Rolo, you dog, that is brilliant! The performance is great, the venue is a dream and you captured it all and its feeling so well. And once again you prove Occam right, the simple way is the best. My hat is off to you.

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Old 17th August 2013
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2 x MKH 30 on a tall C stand behind conductor
1 x MKH 40 next to conductor for soloists
On a hot July evening with thunder in the air.
Very nice sound, Roger.
The total balance is impressive considering only two (plus one) mics in that large church
Are the main microphones about 18' up?
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Superb!
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Very nice sound, Roger.
The total balance is impressive considering only two (plus one) mics in that large church
Are the main microphones about 18' up?
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Yes Torben
If I could have got a further 6' back behind the conductor then I might have done it on the main array alone....
Roger
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Hey Roger. Why is it that so many folks disparage the single main pair for classical recordings. Apparently, it works just fine.

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Hey Roger. Why is it that so many folks disparage the single main pair for classical recordings. Apparently, it works just fine.

D.

Doug, it all depends in whose hands those two mics are. The minimal approach is wonderful, to my ears, but it cannot fix a problem the way a multitude of mics can. It does sound more natural, to me. And as I cannot field a multitude I must sharpen my skills. Rolo keeps raising the bar.
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Doug, it all depends in whose hands those two mics are. The minimal approach is wonderful, to my ears, but it cannot fix a problem the way a multitude of mics can. It does sound more natural, to me. And as I cannot field a multitude I must sharpen my skills. Rolo keeps raising the bar.
Agreed, but it also is very dependant on the performers being well rehearsed. Another thing is that the performers don't want tweaks to the balance in post to correct what they did in the performance.
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Strange thing was the performers only came together for this one event
The one rehearsal was top and tail at most
The band ,3 choirs, organist and soloists
It wasn't a recording it was a performance,something many forget now.
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Agreed, but it also is very dependant on the performers being well rehearsed. Another thing is that the performers don't want tweaks to the balance in post to correct what they did in the performance.
Larry, what you say is true. I had the naive assumption that for the sake of argument that the performers would be on their marks and the hall would be good. It is pretty hard to make a good recording otherwise, but we have all tried.
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There is no point in recording under prepared musicians,that is my main priority
Luckily recording Festivals and small scale Opera means the musos are really up to speed
They are not thinking of the recording and give it scant attention, this aids their performance and my recording
Recently, composers are asking for their premieres to be recorded and suggest including rehearsal time recording for more choice, this never ever works, rehearsal is never performance level or continuity.
As for poor halls, I have a number on my location sites, then the answer is to get closer in, and record just the music, and sort it out in post,not as much fun as a proper hall acoustic, of which I have 3 or 4, but quite manageable.
All on a laptop and a pair of open back cans,quite amazing what can be done now.
Roger
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Very nice!
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Bravo!
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Hey Roger. Why is it that so many folks disparage the single main pair for classical recordings. Apparently, it works just fine.

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Yes Doug it does....
When I was a young boom op I worked on many big films at Ealing Studios,home of BBC Television Film.
The DPs I worked with had a variety of styles and I had to know their lighting technique to survive.
When I was made a Film Sound Recordist at 27 I moved down to Bristol,home of the Natural History Unit,lighting down there was much simpler,mainly for docos.
We started doing Drama film and I worked with two outstanding DPs,quite different in technique,one old school,all tungestone,inky dinks,20 or 30 per set,very moody ,impressionistic almost 30s/40s style.
The other, a dyed in the wool Leica fanatic , was simple beyond belief ,and mostly used a Blonde 2k and a Red Head 800w ot two
He was incredibly fast compared to the former but his results were brilliant,on one film about a Medieval Fletchter filmed on a frozen lake ,both cameramen were employed.
We thought their styles would clash dreadfully, however you could not spot the joins.
His simple technique stuck with me.
Keep it simple.
My mantra.
Roger
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2 x MKH 30 on a tall C stand behind conductor
1 x MKH 40 next to conductor for soloists
On a hot July evening with thunder in the air.
Hi Rolo,

Great recording and performance ! Although I can't quite tell from the photo, I'm guessing the MKH30 fig 8 pair are in Blumlein configuration rather than Faulkner phased array (ie 8" specing) ?
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Sounds great. Well balanced.

-Tom
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Thanks for sharing your very inspiring recording in such a beautiful place.
Fantastic to have that great space and performers. Civilization migrated in a counter-clockwise direction from East to West ending up on the coast of California. There are no cathedrals or castles here for performances, especially none able to capture what we enjoy in your post.
You have achieved so much more than ever can be recorded in a low ceiling bar with lousy bands playing the same loud rock/blues songs over and over.
Trade you anytime for what you have.
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Beautiful! MKH30's in Blumlein?
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Thanks for sharing your very inspiring recording in such a beautiful place.
Fantastic to have that great space and performers. Civilization migrated in a counter-clockwise direction from East to West ending up on the coast of California. There are no cathedrals or castles here for performances, especially none able to capture what we enjoy in your post.
You have achieved so much more than ever can be recorded in a low ceiling bar with lousy bands playing the same loud rock/blues songs over and over.
Trade you anytime for what you have.
Amen, brother.
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Mid side, MKH 30/30 is the configuration
The 8 is very effective for pan and tilt focussing, essential in this location.
Thanks for all your kind comments.
Roger
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Roger, where is the church please? looks like a very nice screen organ, and the sound, as others have said, is wonderful. 100/100

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Just another praise: What a wonderful capture, it has bloom and spaciousness that I would never have guessed could come from an mid-side recording, even though I know MKH30, the best fig8 I have used, but still...
Well done!

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has bloom and spaciousness that I would never have guessed could come from an mid-side recording
Don't get him started. lol

Balance is very nice, if a little in favor of the orchestra as to be expected in the deep setup. I do think the voice could sit just a little further back in the sound. It seems to be noticeably forward compared to everything else.
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Roger, where is the church please? looks like a very nice screen organ, and the sound, as others have said, is wonderful. 100/100

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Its Gloucester Cathedral Peter.
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Don't get him started. lol

Balance is very nice, if a little in favor of the orchestra as to be expected in the deep setup. I do think the voice could sit just a little further back in the sound. It seems to be noticeably forward compared to everything else.
Upon second listening, the soloist sounded a little strained/tired at the beginning. Other than that, a delicious recording.
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What did the aliens sitting on the right side think about it?
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What did the aliens sitting on the right side think about it?
"Needs more cello..." ?

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Heres a hint more for Area 51...
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Big, spacious sound!
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